# Bad Santa

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-santa/276578>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 25, 2004, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-santa/276578 "2004-11-25T01:30:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![Bernard\_Marx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@Bernard\_Marx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bernard_Marx)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2004, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-santa/276578/1 "2004-11-25T01:30:14Z")

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Is it worth seeing Bad Santa _just because_ it has Lauren Graham in it? What if I really like Lauren Graham?

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**Author:** ![Caffeine.addict](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f475e1/32.png) [@Caffeine.addict](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caffeine.addict)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2004, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-santa/276578/2 "2004-11-25T01:40:42Z")

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I liked the movie. It’s out on video so you might as well.

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2004, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-santa/276578/3 "2004-11-25T01:41:28Z")

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I’d pass if I were you.

I like Billy Bob Thornton, have quite a crush on Lauren Graham, and \*\*\*LOVE \*\*\*black comedies but laughed maybe twice during the whole film.

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**Author:** ![Wolfian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7ea924/32.png) [@Wolfian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolfian)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2004, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-santa/276578/4 "2004-11-25T01:59:23Z")

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Its’ worth seeing because its’ an awesome movie with a great soundtrack (leave me alone, I’m a band dork). Lauren Graham is icing on the cake.

F- me, Santa. F- me, Santa.

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**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2004, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-santa/276578/5 "2004-11-25T03:03:20Z")

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My son and I loved it.

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**Author:** ![Metacom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@Metacom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Metacom)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2004, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-santa/276578/6 "2004-11-25T03:17:30Z")

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> [@Wolfian](#):
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> Its’ worth seeing because its’ an awesome movie with a great soundtrack (leave me alone, I’m a band dork).

Seconded. It’s a very funny movie.

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**Author:** ![Bernard\_Marx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@Bernard\_Marx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bernard_Marx)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2004, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-santa/276578/7 "2004-11-25T03:31:29Z")

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> _originally posted by **brujo** _  
> I liked the movie. It’s out on video so you might as well.

Well as you know we Aussies are a bit backward so it has only just arrived in the cinemas here

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> _originally posted by **Wolfian** _  
> F- me, Santa. F- me, Santa.

OK , I now _have_ to see it. I don’t care if that is 3 seconds from a ninety minute movie, that is gold! Cinematic gold!

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Fight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@Cat\_Fight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Fight)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2004, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-santa/276578/8 "2004-11-25T03:42:22Z")

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Lauren Graham is wasted in it- I can’t remember her getting a single funny line (you’re better off watching her in a NewsRadio rerun). I did like all the swearing in the movie, though, especially since Thornton was apparently actually drunk during a lot of the filming.

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**Author:** ![HoldenCaulfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/22d042/32.png) [@HoldenCaulfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HoldenCaulfield)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2004, 8:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-santa/276578/9 "2004-11-25T08:13:32Z")

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I’ve only seen the unrated version, but I thought it was incredibly hilarious.

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**Author:** ![congodwarf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e36b37/32.png) [@congodwarf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/congodwarf)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2004, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-santa/276578/10 "2004-11-26T22:54:27Z")

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If you’re going to see it, see the unrated version - Badder Santa.

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**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2004, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-santa/276578/11 "2004-11-26T23:00:35Z")

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Best Christmas movie EVER.

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**Author:** ![LorieSmurf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a587f6/32.png) [@LorieSmurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LorieSmurf)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2004, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-santa/276578/12 "2004-11-27T10:19:24Z")

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It’s fucking hilarious. I laughed my ass off through the whole thing.

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**Author:** ![Rainbowthief](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4bbf92/32.png) [@Rainbowthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rainbowthief)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2004, 10:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-santa/276578/13 "2004-11-27T10:54:01Z")

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I love the hell out of **Bad Santa** , though I got the unrated **Badder Santa** that congodwarf mentioned earlier. Lauren Graham’s part wasn’t particularly well written, though, so if she’s the only reason you’re interested in the movie, maybe you should skip it. I love her as an actress and find her stunningly beautiful, but the movie belongs to Billy Bob Thornton and Tony Cox (the foul mouthed dwarf). Bernie Mac has some good scenes too, but Graham is stuck as eye candy playing a bland love interest role. Overall, it’s a really hilarious movie and my wife and I consider it a modern Christmas classic right up there with **A Christmas Story** and **National Lampoon’s Christmas Vacation**.

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**Author:** ![beckwall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b487fb/32.png) [@beckwall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beckwall)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2004, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-santa/276578/14 "2004-11-27T18:19:57Z")

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Nobody’s gonna mention the heart-warming relationship between Santa and the outcast kid?

We liked the movie. Billy Bob is a hoot. “F\*\*\* me Santa” is a pretty good line, don’t you think?

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**Author:** ![threeorange](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@threeorange](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/threeorange)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2004, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-santa/276578/15 "2004-11-27T19:14:53Z")

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I’m with **Aesiron** on this one, although he may have laughed one more time than I did. The Santa-Claus-as-an-asshole schtick got old after about ten minutes, and I had trouble accepting the idea that anyone as emotionally undamaged as Lorelai (or whatever her character’s name was) would be attracted to anyone that fucked up, fetishes notwithstanding.

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**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2004, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-santa/276578/16 "2004-11-27T19:27:34Z")

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I loved it. I’m just a sucker for Chtristmas films 😃

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**Author:** ![Albert\_Rose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de053/32.png) [@Albert\_Rose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Albert_Rose)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2004, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-santa/276578/17 "2004-11-27T20:07:19Z")

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In my opinion…

**Bad Santa** is a painful drama about an alcoholic crook who plays Mall Santa as part of his money-making scheme. The movie is very dark, and very funny.

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**Author:** ![kevja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/aeb1de/32.png) [@kevja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kevja)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2004, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-santa/276578/18 "2004-11-27T23:12:04Z")

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What beckwall and AlbertRose said.

Yeah, beckwall. That was a funny line. So was BadSanta’s “of course it was an accicdent” in response to the kid cutting himself. A line that sums up AlbertRose’s description of the movie.

It’s in my top 10 comedies of all time.
