# Bad tippers. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 8, 2009, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747 "2009-03-08T18:29:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 29
**Author:** ![Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brown_eyed_girl/32/3574_2.png) [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brown_Eyed_Girl)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2009, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747/561 "2009-03-23T05:31:23Z")
> [@Springs1](#): > > You have nothing to say, because I PROVED you wrong. Ha ha ha! You proved nothing. It doesn’t surprise me really that you responded to my dismissal with this. It doesn’t really matter because you are not interested in reason. You are not capable of it. That’s why I have no interest in engaging you further. I’m bored with you. Before you came to this thread there was actually some interesting conversation going on. People were discussing multiple points of view. Now, we are discussing yours. Yet, we all agree it’s steeped in lunacy. Ah, but it’s not. It stinks of ego and self-entitlement. You have no credibility. > [@](#): > > springs1’s Blurbs > About me: > I am 29 years old and live in LOUISIANA with MY HUSBAND!!1!111!!! I like to eat out and then BITCH ABOUT IT and get free stuff!!1111!! It IS a great way to get free meals and RESTAURANTS like APPLEBEE’S, Copelands and most of all CHILIS!!1!!! Sometimes I TIP, but MOST OF the time I LEAVE the server WITH **A** BAD taste in her mouth (AND probably in mine, too.!11!! Do COOKS really “drop” steaks?)???!! I like to harass people online and stalk them on their personal space.!!!1! I know everything ABOUT the restuarant business!!1!11!1!1 I worked in a donut shop and so I \ ***KNOW** EVERYTHING about the service INDUSTRY!!!11! I like white russians, long island teas _ **AND** PINA coladas.!1!!!111 IF A bartender TALKS to ANYONE or STOPS to clean UP, I wont tip them!!!1!!! THEY ARE taking up MY time! My!1!111 time is more IMPORTANT that anyones.!111!!!1 Without it I would NOT be ABLE TO HARASS these HARD working folks, get **SOME** _ OF them fired, and then REAP the BENEFITS and eat the FREE food!!1!!! > Who I’d like to meet: > A SERVER/BARTENDER who doesn’t suck!!!11!! Someone who PUTS my needs before EVERYONE else’s! Ghandi.!!!11 Yeah, that’s [your myspace page](http://www.myspace.com/springs_1). I think we’re done here. The only think I’m wondering about now is how long it takes the mods to ban your troll ass. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2009, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747/562 "2009-03-23T05:58:05Z")
> [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](#): > > Ha ha ha! You proved nothing. It doesn’t surprise me really that you responded to my dismissal with this. It doesn’t really matter because you are not interested in reason. You are not capable of it. That’s why I have no interest in engaging you further. I’m bored with you. > > Before you came to this thread there was actually some interesting conversation going on. People were discussing multiple points of view. Now, we are discussing yours. Yet, we all agree it’s steeped in lunacy. Ah, but it’s not. It stinks of ego and self-entitlement. You have no credibility. > > Yeah, that’s [your myspace page](http://www.myspace.com/springs_1). I think we’re done here. The only think I’m wondering about now is how long it takes the mods to ban your troll ass. [Moderator Admonition]Accusations of trolling and personal attacks are _not_ allowed in this forum, and the reposting of someone else’s Myspace page was totally unnecessary. If you want to continue, take it to The BBQ Pit.[/Moderator Admonition] ---
**Author:** ![Audrey\_Levins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/73ab20/32.png) [@Audrey\_Levins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Audrey_Levins)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2009, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747/563 "2009-03-23T06:09:14Z")
Unnecessary or not, that Myspace page does kind of render further conversation completely unnecessary also… This is a joke, right? I know I laughed while reading it… 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2009, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747/564 "2009-03-23T06:18:02Z")
> [@Audrey\_Levins](#): > > Unnecessary or not, that Myspace page does kind of render further conversation completely unnecessary also… [Moderator Underoos On]Totally unnecessary, and yet you just _had_ to get a last shot in anyway, right? People, when I say take it to The BBQ Pit or drop it, _that_ is the real “last shot”.[/Moderator Underoos On] ---
**Author:** ![Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brown_eyed_girl/32/3574_2.png) [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brown_Eyed_Girl)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2009, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747/565 "2009-03-23T06:19:04Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > [Moderator Admonition]Accusations of trolling and personal attacks are _not_ allowed in this forum, and the reposting of someone else’s Myspace page was totally unnecessary. If you want to continue, take it to The BBQ Pit.[/Moderator Admonition] Your forbearance is much appreciated. But seriously… Oh well, I leave you to sort it out. Have fun! ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2009, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747/566 "2009-03-23T12:51:30Z")
> [@Springs1](#): > > How come servers are FRIENDLY towards us? How come restaurants we don’t frequent RARLEY give refills without asking or being asked? 😕…if you don’t frequent the restaurants, how do you know the frequency of their refills or their ask/don’t ask policies? Oh, and to correct you, I personally have ESP. I know what every single person in this thread is thinking about your posts. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2009, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747/567 "2009-03-23T12:53:44Z")
> [@Springs1](#): > > We went out last night to a restaurant we don’t frequent, but is a local chain. If you didn’t frequent it, how did you go there? “I didn’t visit Seattle, but when I went it was rainy”. I don’t think that word means what you think it means. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2009, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747/568 "2009-03-23T13:28:41Z")
> [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](#): > > Yeah, that’s [your myspace page](http://www.myspace.com/springs_1). I think we’re done here. The only think I’m wondering about now is how long it takes the mods to ban your troll ass. That _must_ be fake. Um… right? ---
**Author:** ![Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brown_eyed_girl/32/3574_2.png) [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brown_Eyed_Girl)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2009, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747/569 "2009-03-23T16:34:50Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > That _must_ be fake. > > Um… right? Actually, the more I look into it, the more I believe that it’s the work of one of **spring1** ’s many fans. About as much as I can probably say without further running afoul of the rules is that there are many places on the intarwebs one may engage in lengthy diatribes in much the same vein as the one here. The reactions tend to be the same and google is your friend. ---
**Author:** ![Cuckoorex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Cuckoorex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cuckoorex)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2009, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747/570 "2009-03-23T18:49:52Z")
> [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](#): > > Actually, the more I look into it, the more I believe that it’s the work of one of **spring1** ’s many fans. About as much as I can probably say without further running afoul of the rules is that there are many places on the intarwebs one may engage in lengthy diatribes in much the same vein as the one here. The reactions tend to be the same and google is your friend. I’m actually kind of impressed. I don’t think I’ve ever Googled someone’s screen name and come up with so many hate/spoof sites plus legitimate posts by the author, let alone a TRANSLATOR! Springs1 got banned from at least one foodservice forum after only six posts! Ladies and gentlemen, I believe we are in the presence of a LEGEND! ---
**Author:** ![kjckjc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e36b37/32.png) [@kjckjc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kjckjc)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2009, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747/571 "2009-03-23T21:29:12Z")
> [@Springs1](#): > > Ordering for the customer is deciding which drink out of the LIST of drinks \*\*FROM THE MENU \*\*the customer wants next or if even the customer wants another drink off that list even. IT SURE IS, you cannot argue with a FACT! There are NO drinks on a menu!!! There are only groups of drinks and those groups make up a superset of drink-like items!!! When one gets a refill they may choose from any of this group provided it is within 22.5% of the drink originally ordered. But you have to be asked first!!! It is a REfill!! It is like if you fail a driving test , when you get REtested it might be a math test…or a pregnancy test…that is what RETEST means!!! It doesn’t mean the same test again!!! It means you will be tested again from a group of tests!!! AGGGGHHHHH!!! ---
**Author:** ![Springs1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/57b2e6/32.png) [@Springs1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Springs1)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2009, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747/572 "2009-03-24T01:24:42Z")
> [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](#): > > Yeah, that’s [your myspace page](http://www.myspace.com/springs_1). I think we’re done here. The only think I’m wondering about now is how long it takes the mods to ban your troll ass. NO, that’s NOT my myspace page, because I DO NOT HAVE ONE! That is someone that is making fun of me. I don’t look like that ugly fat chick WHOEVER it is that they put on that page. This page has been there for years. I am going to be 32 on Wednesday just to let you know. WHY do you think that is ME? I don’t write that type of crap. I write REAL SITUATIONS and REAL THINGS that affect me. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2009, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747/573 "2009-03-24T01:30:01Z")
> [@Springs1](#): > > WHY do you think that is ME? I don’t write that type of crap. I write REAL SITUATIONS and REAL THINGS that affect me. Well, if it waddles like a duck, swims like a duck, quacks like a duck and capitalizes every fifth word… ---
**Author:** ![Springs1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/57b2e6/32.png) [@Springs1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Springs1)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2009, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747/574 "2009-03-24T01:33:00Z")
> [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](#): > > Ha ha ha! You proved nothing. It doesn’t surprise me really that you responded to my dismissal with this. It doesn’t really matter because you are not interested in reason. You are not capable of it. That’s why I have no interest in engaging you further. I’m bored with you. You still never answered: “WHY should I “THANK” someone that didn’t give me a chance to ORDER MY OWN DRINK and WASTED MY TIME?” I would like to know your answer. I will NOT thank someone for getting me the wrong item on PURPOSE. That’s just INSANE to do such a thing. You really think servers can read minds as well. WHY don’t you just tell your server you want refills without being asked? I would REALLY, REALLY LIKE to know WHY? Is it because you want an excuse to tip less, because that’s the only reason I can think of? ---
**Author:** ![Springs1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/57b2e6/32.png) [@Springs1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Springs1)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2009, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747/575 "2009-03-24T01:42:35Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Well, if it waddles like a duck, swims like a duck, quacks like a duck and capitalizes every fifth word… It’s not me though. I don’t write (1’s) after ANY of my writing. I don’t write stuff like that. I write real stuff. Here’s some of my blogs that are TRULY MINE: > **[Blogger: User Profile: Springs1](https://www.blogger.com/profile/16330862403978274454)** > > Blogger is a blog publishing tool from Google for easily sharing your thoughts with the world. Blogger makes it simple to post text, photos and video onto your personal or team blog. [http://astrology.yahoo.com/channel/food/restaurant-service-the-non-observant-servers-266673/?pg=16](http://astrology.yahoo.com/channel/food/restaurant-service-the-non-observant-servers-266673/?pg=16) [http://astrology.yahoo.com/channel/food/how-to-be-a-good-server-in-a-restaurant-243973/#comments](http://astrology.yahoo.com/channel/food/how-to-be-a-good-server-in-a-restaurant-243973/#comments) > **[SERVERS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR MENU PRICE OVERCHARGES](https://springs1.livejournal.com/392.html)** > > It seems today a lot of servers think they are NOT responsible for a menu price not matching the check price when it's check time in restaurants, which is NOT TRUE . The fact is, my server can take a menu and verify each price that is listed. A lot... > **[Bad Service vs. Good service: Tipping Opinions](https://asprings131.livejournal.com/413.html?thread=44957)** > > I feel if the service is really bad, the tip should reflect the service. If servers would apologize for their mistakes, I'd leave more tip, but some servers choose not to apologize, so their tip is less. This is to me ideal service: 1. The server... That is TRULY ALL MY STUFF and there are lots more I have written over the years on message boards and other people’s blogs. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2009, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747/576 "2009-03-24T01:54:07Z")
> [@Springs1](#): > > It’s not me though. I don’t write (1’s) after ANY of my writing. I don’t write stuff like that. I write real stuff. > > Here’s some of my blogs that are TRULY MINE: > > \ > > [http://astrology.yahoo.com/channel/food/restaurant-service-the-non-observant-servers-266673/?pg=16](http://astrology.yahoo.com/channel/food/restaurant-service-the-non-observant-servers-266673/?pg=16) > > \ > > That is TRULY ALL MY STUFF and there are lots more I have written over the years on message boards and other people’s blogs. You sure that one’s yours? [QUOTE=Springs1, maybe] 4. Not asking if a customer would like a refill when a glass is just about empty. To me, it’s like DUH, if you see an empty glass to at least ASK the customer if they would like some more drink. For some weird reason, I have gotten many servers that just aren’t observant. I don’t know if it’s because they are too lazy to ask for more work or are they just that stupid that the customer more than likely will want more drink? [/QUOTE] ---
**Author:** ![Springs1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/57b2e6/32.png) [@Springs1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Springs1)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2009, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747/577 "2009-03-24T02:02:31Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > You sure that one’s yours? Yes, because if the glass is just about empty, I expect them to _ASK_ me. I don’t EVER expect them to order for me. Get the difference here? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2009, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747/578 "2009-03-24T02:03:59Z")
> [@Springs1](#): > > Yes, because if the glass is just about empty, I expect them to _ASK_ me. I don’t EVER expect them to order for me. Get the difference here? Sure. It still doesn’t make any sense. If you ask for a different drink, it’s not a refill. That’s called “a different drink”. ---
**Author:** ![Springs1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/57b2e6/32.png) [@Springs1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Springs1)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2009, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747/579 "2009-03-24T02:09:51Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Sure. > > It still doesn’t make any sense. If you ask for a different drink, it’s not a refill. That’s called “a different drink”. IT IS A “REFILL.” READ THE DEFINITION OF A REFILL: [http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/refill](http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/refill) “1. to fill again.” “A product packaged to replace the used contents of a container. A second or subsequent filling.” "1. fill something that had previously been emptied; “refill my glass, please” [syn: replenish] " "1 : a replacement in a cavity of removed liquid or other material or asubstitution (as of gas) for such material refill\> " They even have the word “subsitution”, isn’t that something. Does it state ANYWHERE IN THESE DEFINITIONS that it HAS TO BE THE SAME EXACT LIQUID BEING FILLED “AGAIN” IN THE GLASS? A refill simply means I fill the glass with coke, then I fill it AGAIN with water, then I fill it again with tea, etc. A glass filled after being emptied, is filled again with a liquid, which could be the same or could be different. In the definition, it doesn’t have to be the SAME LIQUID. “A REFILL OF ONE OF THE REFILLABLE DRINKS” is what I am getting. ---
**Author:** ![Hakuna\_Matata](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@Hakuna\_Matata](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hakuna_Matata)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2009, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747/580 "2009-03-24T02:21:19Z")
I personally have always been fond of this defintion > **[Polite Definition & Meaning | Dictionary.com](https://www.dictionary.com/browse/polite)** > > Polite definition, showing good manners toward others, as in behavior, speech, etc.; courteous; civil: a polite reply. See more. po⋅lite   /pəˈlaɪt/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [puh-lahyt] Show IPA –adjective, -lit⋅er, -lit⋅est. 1. showing good manners toward others, as in behavior, speech, etc.; courteous; civil: a polite reply. 2. refined or cultured: polite society. 3. of a refined or elegant kind: polite learning. That is what I usually try to show to those people who bring my good food and drink when I go out to eat. I am polite to them and they are usually to me. I think it might be because I like people and try to make my meal times enjoyable for all. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747.md?page=28) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747.md?page=30)