# Bad tippers. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 8, 2009, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747 "2009-03-08T18:29:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 38
**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2009, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747/741 "2009-03-28T17:57:18Z")
You people are all so LAZY AND SELFISH!!! **Springs1** came into this thread to share an opinion. What makes you ASSUME that **Springs1** wants to see YOUR RESPONSES?!?!?! Just because this is an Internet message board, **Springs1** should not be BOTHERED with SELFISH AND TIME-CONSUMING REPLIES that were not explicitly ASKED FOR!!! **Springs1** pays good money for her INTERNET! **Springs1** wants the internet to be FAST AND NOT WASTE TIME. Your STUPID and 100% WRONG responses are TAKING UP BANDWIDTH. **Springs1** should not be assaulted with your STUPID THOUGHTS AND EXPERIENCES. I ASSURE YOU, if **Springs1** wants to hear from you, YOU WILL KNOW. DO NOT CLOG THIS THREAD WITH STUPID RESPONSES. **Springs1** might want this thread to be about PUPPIES now, or perhaps it should be about UNCLOGGING DRAINS. **Springs1** PAYS FOR INTERNET ACCESS and DESERVES a choice about what this thread is about! Do NOT ASSUME that this thread should be about tipping just because it was about tipping for the first fifteen pages! THAT IS 100% WRONG OF YOU TO DO! Please keep this under advisement, FD ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2009, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747/742 "2009-03-28T19:10:37Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > You offer $100, but will you 100% PAY? Because I’m willing to be the guinea pig but only if I get to eat somewhere really nice, and THE BILL MIGHT BE MORE THAN a hundred clams. So IF YOU pay $100 plus the BILL 100%, I’ll 100% do IT. You live in Ontario. A LAND of ICe and snow. I also live IN ice and snow, [SUB](rough weather as a rule but we deal with it)[/SUB] but I never KNEW they made such men AS tough as you. You want clams? More than 100 of them? That’s gonna stink. But you have made a gallant offer. I cannot fund your trip to where Springs lives because I believe it may be in a galaxy far, far away. You get there and I bet us dopers will figure someting out. I am also very curious if Springs has a vocation or job. Or has ever had one. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2009, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747/743 "2009-03-28T19:36:43Z")
… I just went through the list of posts in the thread and found where **Springs1** came in - rather abruptly 😉 and from there on out, she took a contrary position, right? Well, here’s what I’m thinking: 1. Was that her first _ever_ post? 2. If so, might she have gotten the mistaken idea that since this is the **Pit** , what one is **supposed** to do, is take the opposite side, if one thinks one has a point, and never **ever** deviate from that??? 3. Does this sound familiar to some of our older friends? 4. Do the names Dan Ackroyd and Jane Curtin strike a familiar note? Because as one who never belongs in a debate Why?— (All together now: (Because you can’t defend your position worth a shit, **Quasi**!!" - “Well, just fuck **alla** y’all. then!!!” ----- **SLAMS DOOR** ), because I cannot for the life of me figure out any other _answer_! And since I have been given the benefit of the doubt many times by y’all, thank you, I’d like to explore this as a possibility. So how about it, Hon? Did you think you were **supposed** to continue the argument? Sorry! I _know_ it’s a reach, but I’m at a loss here. ☹ Thanks, I’m done Quasi ---
**Author:** ![Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brown_eyed_girl/32/3574_2.png) [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brown_Eyed_Girl)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2009, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747/744 "2009-03-28T20:01:09Z")
> [@CircleofWillis](#): > > I ran across this mouthwash thing for the first time at [Sullivan’s](http://www.sullivansteakhouse.com/) on Valentine’s Day. Large bottle with a dispenser next to the faucet… I washed my hands with it. Sigh.. I’m an idiot Heh. You may be an idiot, but I think what this really proves is that you’re way too uncultured to step foot in a fancy restaurant. I wouldn’t go so far as to say you shouldn’t stray too far away from the unwashed masses, but you should at least keep to the minty fresh ones. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d9b06d/32.png) [@Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ichini_Sanshigo)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2009, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747/745 "2009-03-28T20:09:25Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > … I just went through the list of posts in the thread and found where **Springs1** came in - rather abruptly 😉 and from there on out, she took a contrary position, right? > > Well, here’s what I’m thinking: > > 1. Was that her first _ever_ post? > > 2. If so, might she have gotten the mistaken idea that since this is the **Pit** , what one is **supposed** to do, is take the opposite side, if one thinks one has a point, and never **ever** deviate from that??? > > 3. Does this sound familiar to some of our older friends? > > 4. Do the names Dan Ackroyd and Jane Curtin strike a familiar note? > > Because as one who never belongs in a debate Why?— (All together now: (Because you can’t defend your position worth a shit, **Quasi**!!" - “Well, just fuck **alla** y’all. then!!!” ----- **SLAMS DOOR** ), because I cannot for the life of me figure out any other _answer_! > > And since I have been given the benefit of the doubt many times by y’all, thank you, I’d like to explore this as a possibility. > > So how about it, Hon? > > Did you think you were **supposed** to continue the argument? > > Sorry! I _know_ it’s a reach, but I’m at a loss here. > > ☹ > > Thanks, I’m done > > Quasi Well, the thread started in IMHO, and that’s when **Springs1** started posting. I stand by my earlier statement: She’s totally fucking with y’all. It’s crude, but apparently, quite effective. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2009, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747/746 "2009-03-28T20:16:54Z")
If so, then it’s time to stop the game and come out, come out wherever you are, because you are wasting the time and emotions of many good people whom I love, **Spring1**. If not then God, I feel so sorry for you, Hon, and as I write this, my eyes are a tad moist. Please, okay? ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2009, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747/747 "2009-03-28T20:20:55Z")
Sorry, I just noticed I left out an s, **Springs1** ---
**Author:** ![Springs1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/57b2e6/32.png) [@Springs1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Springs1)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2009, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747/748 "2009-03-28T20:36:52Z")
> [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](#): > > Not that it fucking matters because it has fuck-all to do with refills, but no, you are incorrect. [Mr. Taveras was NOT required by law to pay a mandatory gratuity.](http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/15/nyregion/15tipper.html) > [@](#): > > Now, show us the law that a restaurant must give you two different types of fountain drinks for free. WHY was he ARRESTED THEN? Because he didn’t pay the gratuity that was required according to the _ **MENU** _\*, you IDIOT! > [@](#): > > And, no, you haven’t proven anything. Wait, I take that back. The only thing you have proven is batshit crazy \*is \*entertaining. But, that, of course, is also a matter of opinion. Happy trolling, fucker. I have, you idiot, the fact that he was **ARRESTED** for something that was **TYPED ON THE MENU** that he HAD TO PAY! Are you THAT STUPID OR ILLITERATE OR BLIND OR WHAT? **THE MENU IS THE GOD OF ORDERING!** HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO TELL YOU ALL THIS! This means if I switch FOUNTAIN BEVERAGES at restaurants that give free refills on fountain beverages, I CANNOT BE LEGALLY CHARGED, HOW ABOUT THAT? How about the FACT that I have NEVER BEEN ONCE CHARGED for switching soft drinks, tea, or coffee before at restaurants that do not charge for refills? Doesn’t that PROVE I am right? ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2009, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747/749 "2009-03-28T20:49:27Z")
Too bad Occam’s Razor won’t work here. If it did, we could have all moved on long ago… ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2009, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747/750 "2009-03-28T21:07:40Z")
> [@Ichini\_Sanshigo](#): > > I stand by my earlier statement: She’s totally fucking with y’all. Probably. But for a few posts, I honest-to-god wondered if it could be a woman I used to wait on, who actually was that insane and complained of the same things. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2009, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747/751 "2009-03-28T21:18:33Z")
I’m a bit puzzled because I’m doing my best to maintain neutrality, yet she will not acknowledge **me** who is providing an avenue (weak though it is) not populated by the opposition, and chooses instead to keep fighting. Didn’t have much psych in college, but this almost looks like the proverbial “rat in the corner”. No use of the bolding **B** , instead choosing to capitalize and emphazize with asterisks. (Probably not important unless it’s faster for her that way). If this isn’t an Anthropological paper, then she’s one disturbed person. Shit, what do I know, and I’m not supposed to be here anyway. I’ll be in Azeroth. See ya (but I wouldn’t…etc) Q ---
**Author:** ![bathsheba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@bathsheba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bathsheba)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2009, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747/752 "2009-03-28T21:18:40Z")
> [@Springs1](#): > > I just want to know WHY MOST of the time we DON’T get servers that order for us? I don’t just mean restaurants we frequent, even ones out of town or **ones we never have gone to** , they let US ASK or THEY ASK US if we want refills. That took it to new heights for me. Please don’t ban her just yet. I’m away from home this week and I don’t have cable. ---
**Author:** ![Raygun99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Raygun99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raygun99)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2009, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747/753 "2009-03-28T21:40:03Z")
I have to admit she has a point. If a restaurant I’d never been to brought me a refill, I’d probably be a little unnerved. ---
**Author:** ![Springs1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/57b2e6/32.png) [@Springs1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Springs1)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2009, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747/754 "2009-03-28T21:44:01Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Probably. But for a few posts, I honest-to-god wondered if it could be a woman I used to wait on, who actually was that insane and complained of the same things. What state did you serve in? I have never verbally complained about this to a serverr or a manger before just to let you know, so it really couldn’t have possibly been me! ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2009, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747/755 "2009-03-28T21:45:50Z")
> [@fluiddruid](#): > > You people are all so LAZY AND SELFISH!!! > > **Springs1** came into this thread to share an opinion. What makes you ASSUME that **Springs1** wants to see YOUR RESPONSES?!?!?! Just because this is an Internet message board, **Springs1** should not be BOTHERED with SELFISH AND TIME-CONSUMING REPLIES that were not explicitly ASKED FOR!!! > > **Springs1** pays good money for her INTERNET! **Springs1** wants the internet to be FAST AND NOT WASTE TIME. Your STUPID and 100% WRONG responses are TAKING UP BANDWIDTH. **Springs1** should not be assaulted with your STUPID THOUGHTS AND EXPERIENCES. > > I ASSURE YOU, if **Springs1** wants to hear from you, YOU WILL KNOW. DO NOT CLOG THIS THREAD WITH STUPID RESPONSES. **Springs1** might want this thread to be about PUPPIES now, or perhaps it should be about UNCLOGGING DRAINS. **Springs1** PAYS FOR INTERNET ACCESS and DESERVES a choice about what this thread is about! Do NOT ASSUME that this thread should be about tipping just because it was about tipping for the first fifteen pages! THAT IS 100% WRONG OF YOU TO DO! > > Please keep this under advisement, > FD That’s not FAIR! ---
**Author:** ![Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brown_eyed_girl/32/3574_2.png) [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brown_Eyed_Girl)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2009, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747/756 "2009-03-28T22:00:36Z")
> [@Springs1](#): > > WHY was he ARRESTED THEN? Because he didn’t pay the gratuity that was required according to the _ **MENU** _\*, you IDIOT! > > I have, you idiot, the fact that he was **ARRESTED** for something that was **TYPED ON THE MENU** that he HAD TO PAY! Are you THAT STUPID OR ILLITERATE OR BLIND OR WHAT? Hey, Shit-for-brains, the charges were dropped. Meaning he didn’t have to pay. Who’s the idiot now? Once again, point out the fucking law. > [@](#): > > **THE MENU IS THE GOD OF ORDERING!** HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO TELL YOU ALL THIS! You can keep telling us all this over and over again, but that doesn’t make you any less wrong. Fuck the menu. It doesn’t matter. The menu is a guideline. If you order something on the menu and the restaurant decides not to give it to you, your recourse is to fucking leave. If they tell you they ran out, or they don’t consider fountain drink swapping in line with their definition of “free refill” what do you do? You can bitch about it to the manager and he gets to decide if its worth it to let you walk pissed off or to placate you with coupons or comped meals, but other than that you’ve got no recourse. Oh, I forgot, you can stiff the waithelp, too, but that just makes you a \*cheap \*douche. The douche part comes with the fact that you whine about how rude the waithelp is to you. Boo fucking hoo. As you’ve surely noticed, nobody – least of all the servers – gives a flying fuck. > [@](#): > > This means if I switch FOUNTAIN BEVERAGES at restaurants that give free refills on fountain beverages, I CANNOT BE LEGALLY CHARGED, HOW ABOUT THAT? Nope. It would be pointless to ask for a cite (which is not the same as an anecdote, by the way) because there is none. There’s no legal definition of free refill. You insisting there is one doesn’t make it so. > [@](#): > > How about the FACT that I have NEVER BEEN ONCE CHARGED for switching soft drinks, tea, or coffee before at restaurants that do not charge for refills? Doesn’t that PROVE I am right? Nope. It’s strictly anecdotal. What if I had told you I have been charged? Does that prove I’m right. I’ll give you a hint: If I smacked you upside the head repeatedly would it make you any less ignorant? ---
**Author:** ![Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brown_eyed_girl/32/3574_2.png) [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brown_Eyed_Girl)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2009, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747/757 "2009-03-28T22:10:41Z")
> [@Springs1](#): > > What state did you serve in? I have never verbally complained about this to a serverr or a manger before just to let you know, so it really couldn’t have possibly been me! So, let me get this straight. Your plan is to correct this terrible problem of poor service is chain restaurants by trolling message boards with your singular message in a way that cause them to a) gang up on you, b) question your sanity, and/or c) outright ban you? Good thinking there, Sparky. Let me know how it all works out for ya. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2009, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747/758 "2009-03-28T22:18:23Z")
> [@Raygun99](#): > > I have to admit she has a point. If a restaurant I’d never been to brought me a refill, I’d probably be a little unnerved. KNOCK! KNOCK! KNOCK! _answers front door_ “Hi! We at the Buckhorn Exchange noticed that you were almost out of ginger ale! Here’s your refill!” Umm… Thanks. _closes door_ _You fuckers couldn’t notice that I was almost out of prime rib? Assholes!_ ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2009, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747/759 "2009-03-28T22:21:28Z")
> [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](#): > > … by trolling message boards with your singular message in a way that cause them to a) gang up on you, b) question your sanity, and/or c) outright ban you? One can only hope that she next will bring up her crush on Englebert Humperdinck. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2009, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747/760 "2009-03-28T22:27:42Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > Too bad Occam’s Razor won’t work here. If it did, we could have all moved on long ago… Hey Quas. I’ve been here for a bit… Do you have a good burrito recipe? I fry up a pound of lean ground beef and chop it up real small. Then I add a can of refried beens and mix it all up. I chop up an onion and cook that with the beef and beans. Toss in some garlic and whatever spices look interesting. Add 16oz of picante sauce. Serve wrapped in a floor tortilla with a bunch of lettuce, tomato, sour cream and cheese on top. Alas… as much as I pine for a good burrito, tonight is going to be stir fry chicken. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747.md?page=37) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747.md?page=39)