# Bad tippers. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 8, 2009, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747 "2009-03-08T18:29:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 41
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2009, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747/801 "2009-03-29T05:01:39Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > i will sit here and hope i am wrong. i’ll be the biggest sdmb fool ever, but if she’s okay, i’ll gladly go **Quasi** , please let it go. You don’t need to keep posting on it. Colibri Moderator ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2009, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747/802 "2009-03-29T05:02:27Z")
I don’t know where that thread is, I am sure it’s in the Pit somewhere, but hers mirrored my own, and y’all talked to me the same way. It just kept bothering me all day. Thank you for being here. If you want to talk to me on the phone to make sure I’m lucid, I’ll give you my number again… ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2009, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747/803 "2009-03-29T05:05:15Z")
Okay. You got it. Good night. ---
**Author:** ![Suse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@Suse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suse)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2009, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747/804 "2009-03-29T05:07:12Z")
She’s okay, **Quasi**. The SDMB isn’t the only place she has posted this way. This is just her particular pet peeve and she’s letting everyone know her opinion in a way that isn’t often seen here. Don’t worry about her. Try to get some rest. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2009, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747/805 "2009-03-29T05:11:57Z")
Okay, that makes me feel a lot better, Suse. What a stupid coincidence huh? I post mine, the idea hit me, I fly over to the Pit, and she’s gone. I feel like a real flake, but if she’s really okay, you can pour milk all over me. Thanks Hon Bill ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2009, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747/806 "2009-03-29T05:34:11Z")
This topic is constantly making me think “What’s going to happen next?” ---
**Author:** ![Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brown_eyed_girl/32/3574_2.png) [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brown_Eyed_Girl)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2009, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747/807 "2009-03-29T06:44:19Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > I feel like a real flake, but if she’s really okay, you can pour milk all over me. :dubious: Is it time for breakfast yet? Got your PM, **Quas**. Sorry, I was watching a movie on Netflix. Fortunately, it looks like things have settled down here for the night. I’m not sure how much help I’d be though. I think I’m one of those who is making **Springs1** ’s eye twitch a little. ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2009, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747/808 "2009-03-29T06:54:06Z")
> [@Springs1](#): > > The menu is the GOD OF ORDERING! If the menu states something, there’s WRITTEN LEGAL PROOF THEY CAN’T, unless the restaurant charges for refills or you get a drink that is not within that category. > > An example with a coupon issue I fought and WON! > > I had a coupon in 2005 at Lonestar for a free appetizer after 4p.m., which we went at around 8p.m. Also, the coupon stated as long as you purchase an entree. The coupon also stated “YOU CHOOSE” in bold letters and listed ALL the appetizers the Lonestar offered as options. The coupon didn’t have like some coupons do such as BENNIGAN’S that state “Of equal or less value” if more than one is ordered. I had ordered a half-rack of ribs which on of the appetizers on the list which was $9.99 and amarillo cheese fries which was $6.99, to make it my meal. I know how to get a bargin. I really wanted the cheese fries and didn’t want the beans in the regular meal anyways, so that’s why I ordered 2 appetizers as my meal. My husband even ordered an expensive entree, a whole rack of ribs instead of something cheap like a burger. > > I gave the coupon to the waiter and told him that I wanted the cheese fries as the free appetizer and he said that the manager probably wouldn’t let, so I was like can I see the manager then. The manager was mean. She came to my table already being rude saying “You didn’t want sides or something?” I was like, I ordered 2 appetizers as my meal. She kept saying “It’s Lonestar’s policy to take the lesser one.” I told her NO, I am right and you are wrong. I also told her where on the coupon does it state that. She had only words to go by. Anyway, the general manager ended up comping both through all of that hassle. I reported this to corporate on their website with a letter, because legally, there was NO “EQUAL OR LESS VALUE” on the coupon or anything to state I had to take the lesser one if I ordered more than one and with the coupon having “YOU CHOOSE” in bold letters with the half rack ribs listed on the coupon, well the coupon stated I could have chosen ANY of those. > > Turns out, a main corporate guy called me and told me I was exactly right. I knew I was. I did everything the coupon said I had to do. Anyway, the VICE PRESIDENT sent me a letter PROFUSELY APOLOGIZING and was EXTREMELY EMBARRASSED over the incident. They sent a 50 dollar free dinner as well over the mean lady manager wanting to save a few bucks by wanting me to take the lesser one when she had no LEGAL WRITTEN PROOF TO STAND on. Can I come and live with you and go out to all the chain restaurants in the world and fight with managers and vice presidents over coupons and cheese fries? I could not imagine a more entertaining existence. Can I come and make a documentary about you? Can I follow you around from Red Lobster to Bennigan’s to Denny’s to Sambo’s to Bubba Gump’s to Arby’s to Outback to TGIFriday’s and videotape you fighting for side-dish justice? Please? ---
**Author:** ![Kricket](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f14d63/32.png) [@Kricket](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kricket)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2009, 7:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747/809 "2009-03-29T07:45:38Z")
> [@lissener](#): > > Can I come and live with you and go out to all the chain restaurants in the world and fight with managers and vice presidents over coupons and cheese fries? I could not imagine a more entertaining existence. Can I come and make a documentary about you? Can I follow you around from Red Lobster to Bennigan’s to Denny’s to Sambo’s to Bubba Gump’s to Arby’s to Outback to TGIFriday’s and videotape you fighting for side-dish justice? Please? Nice!!! Don’t know if it’s the fact that it’s going on 3am here but this just cracked me up. I would love to see that documentary. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2009, 8:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747/810 "2009-03-29T08:07:45Z")
It is now 3:25 and I haven’t been able to sleep, although I have calmed down a bit, thanks to **Suse**. Just to close this whole mess out? All day Saturday I’d see that thread and shrug my shoulders, thinking “It’ll come together sooner or later”, and go back to communicating with you guys, and man was my muse whoppin’ me upside the head!!! But _something_ about the tipper thread kept nagging at me, so every now and then I’d come back and take a peek. “Hmm. **still** nuthin”, I said to Bert, who was sittin’ on my lap pawing my uh, (well, **hell** all right,) **tits** I guess! Happy now? They’re cute, but I just can’t pull 'em and put 'em in my mouth like some of y’all can. Dang, she structured her paragraphs and emphasized stuff really nicely, and it all looked so… _familiar_. But the penny didn’t drop. Did some Warcraftin’, ate a snack, watched some tv (that scene in American Werewolf In London during which he got so restless just before he morphed? That was me) and came back to the Dope. Then I started thinking about my blog and that I hadn’t even _looked_ at that video, so I did. When it came to the “increased dependency” part, I thought to myself, “Got a ways to go yet bef…”, and **then** was when I had my epiphany (of sorts) and the tears came. and I wrote the blog and then linked y’all to it. (Thanks for the responses, by the way). As I wrote, I said to myself, “Do you **really** want them to know this? You’ve been happily _writing them all day long_!” And that’s when everything went kaput and I connected the dots and shit started happening. I guess it’s a good thing I’m no longer working with patients, huh? And that’s it. That’s the whole enchilada and I am so sorry I caused y’all this consternation. What are we gonna do about this, mah chirruns? Whatever y’all decide is what we’ll do, okay? I **love** you little shits!🙂 Quasi ---
**Author:** ![Mame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/858c86/32.png) [@Mame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mame)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2009, 10:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747/811 "2009-03-29T10:05:41Z")
Sorry people, but Springs1 has been posting these diatribes across the net since [2007](http://www.ragingserver.com/best_waiter_server_blog/2007/11/05/springs1/). This may be the original Springs 1, or just someone who picked up her posts and is using them as a troll-suit, but either way, there is no dealing rationally wiht her/it/them/whatever. DNFTT. (or expect a tip if you do :D) ---
**Author:** ![Cuckoorex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Cuckoorex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cuckoorex)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2009, 10:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747/812 "2009-03-29T10:11:42Z")
> [@Mame](#): > > Sorry people, but Springs1 has been posting these diatribes across the net since [2007](http://www.ragingserver.com/best_waiter_server_blog/2007/11/05/springs1/). This may be the original Springs 1, or just someone who picked up her posts and is using them as a troll-suit, but either way, there is no dealing rationally wiht her/it/them/whatever. > > DNFTT. (or expect a tip if you do :D) You mean, _ **DNWTTT** _ Do Not Waste The Troll’s Time ---
**Author:** ![Cuckoorex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Cuckoorex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cuckoorex)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2009, 10:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747/813 "2009-03-29T10:18:05Z")
I think I want to make a T-shirt that says _ **THE MENU IS THE GOD OF ORDERING!** _ ---
**Author:** ![Cuckoorex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Cuckoorex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cuckoorex)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2009, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747/814 "2009-03-29T10:37:29Z")
About [963 replies](http://forum.baby-gaga.com/about243854.html) on another board to what amounts to **Springs1** posting her rants verbatim. General reaction from the message board; “this woman is a whack job,” and “since she posts this shit the same way all over the place, isn’t this really spamming?” On [another board](http://astrology.shine.yahoo.com/channel/food/how-to-be-a-good-server-in-a-restaurant-243973/?pg=2), 574 replies to, you guessed it, **Springs1** posting her rants verbatim. General reaction from the replies; “people like you should always eat at home,” and “honestly, why do you keep randomly capitalizing words?” I suppose the good thing is that **Springs1** rarely seems to be involved in more than one thread on any one board, so the crazy is pretty much isolated to this thread, and it’s already in the Pit. So at least she’ll probably stay out of any other restaurant discussions. The bad part is, she has the endurance and tenacity of a wolverine…a crazed, angry wolverine _ **WHO DID NOT ASK FOR A REFILL YOU UNCARING INCONSIDERATE LAZY SELFISH SERVER** _ ---
**Author:** ![Gfactor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de053/32.png) [@Gfactor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gfactor)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2009, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747/815 "2009-03-29T13:59:20Z")
> [@Springs1](#): > > I have been given the wrong drink before. I didn’t have a stroke. I was pissed that the servers did the ordering for me instead of me doing my own ordering for myself like it’s SUPPOSED TO BE! **Springs1** this seems to be your favorite topic, and one that you apparently have discussed at length in several other places. While there is nothing wrong with that, I think you’ve spoken your truth on this. How about posting on some different topics for a while? **Gfactor** Pit Moderator ---
**Author:** ![Springs1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/57b2e6/32.png) [@Springs1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Springs1)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2009, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747/816 "2009-03-29T14:15:41Z")
> [@Hakuna\_Matata](#): > > [Unauthorized Request Blocked](http://www.restaurant.org/business/bb/2001_04.cfm) > > for your reading pleasure springysprongy > > This is from an article from the National Restuarant Association, which most likely has a better sense of the industry then you have. > > In particular note the sixth item down: > > _Stay a step ahead of the guests. “You should always be scanning your tables” to identify customers’ needs, says Pabreza. For example, she refills customers’ coffee before they even ask._ > > Also from this book page 5 > > [Remarkable Service: A Guide to Winning and Keeping Customers for Servers, Managers, and Restaurant Owners: The Culinary Institute of America (CIA): 9780471380221: Amazon.com: Books](http://www.amazon.com/Remarkable-Service-Customers-Managers-Restaurant/dp/0471380229/ref=pd_bxgy_b_text_c#) Does it state that the server didn’t ASK their customers? NO, so there’s no proof that you are right, nor does it mean that someone WRITES A BOOK about their OPINION about something that it holds TRUE either! An opinion is not a fact, is it? You didn’t find proof of anything, because someone WROTE A BOOK about their OPINION on how service should be or not be even if they had that neither person should be asking. Anyone can write a book. Heck, if I wanted to, I could write a book myself. Does that prove that my method is correct, because I would have written a book? My method is correct, because we get a menu to and we are the ones that get to decide if or what we want to drink since we are the customers PAYING for the service. Since we are the ones drinking or not drinking the drink. WHY does the server come to our tables with a pad and pen if they are just going to order what they please for us? If you want your server to get you refills without bothering you, it’s YOU that needs to tell your server so they will know that, otherwise, they won’t just magically know. They may guess right, but they don’t know for sure when they are doing that task. You know I am right. > [@](#): > > _guests should not have to ask for refills of water or ice tea, bread & butter._ That’s right, the **SERVER** should be asking. NO ONE SAID ANYTHING ABOUT THAT THE “ **SERVER** ” COULDN’T ASK, NOW DID THEY? I agree 100% that customers shouldn’t have to ask their server. The server should be CARING and CONSIDERATE to ASK THEIR CUSTOMERS what they want or don’t want, DUH! > [@](#): > > I only spent 5 minutes finding this info–there were several books that you can order that I am quite sure will also indicate this is accepted industry practice. I only spent 2 seconds reading something and found a HUGE LOOPHOLE in your so-called proof. What an idiot! > [@](#): > > So you are proven wrong once again–why isn’t that surprising? Perhaps you might want to educate yourself a little on this subject before you dig deeper? I have proven YOU wrong! ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2009, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747/817 "2009-03-29T14:50:14Z")
> [@lissener](#): > > Can I come and live with you and go out to all the chain restaurants in the world and fight with managers and vice presidents over coupons and cheese fries? I could not imagine a more entertaining existence. Can I come and make a documentary about you? Can I follow you around from Red Lobster to Bennigan’s to Denny’s to Sambo’s to Bubba Gump’s to Arby’s to Outback to TGIFriday’s and videotape you fighting for side-dish justice? Please? I would pay $12 to see that movie in the theatre, and I’d buy the Blu-Ray for my collection. ---
**Author:** ![Hakuna\_Matata](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@Hakuna\_Matata](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hakuna_Matata)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2009, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747/818 "2009-03-29T14:51:33Z")
yawn. I can see you can’t read–the first line says they fill it up without asking. From the national organization. So you didn’t prove anything shit for brains. The loophole you found is the one in your logic. what was I thinking :smack: Trying to reason with an insane woman. since you have now sprung ms spring I will wait until you are banned. I will take bets it is within the next 2 to 3 days bye-bye—it was nice talking to the crazy done with this trainwreck I am surprised it hasn’t been locked yet to be honest. ---
**Author:** ![Raygun99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Raygun99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raygun99)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2009, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747/819 "2009-03-29T14:56:46Z")
> [@Mame](#): > > Sorry people, but Springs1 has been posting these diatribes across the net since [2007](http://www.ragingserver.com/best_waiter_server_blog/2007/11/05/springs1/). This may be the original Springs 1, or just someone who picked up her posts and is using them as a troll-suit, but either way, there is no dealing rationally wiht her/it/them/whatever. > > DNFTT. (or expect a tip if you do :D) The original Dread Pirate Springs1 is retired and living like a queen in an Applebee’s somewhere. ---
**Author:** ![Cuckoorex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Cuckoorex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cuckoorex)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2009, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747/820 "2009-03-29T16:07:42Z")
I AM THE DRWEAD PIRWATE SPRWINGS! My DRINK IS here! A REFILL IS COMING! But _ **I DID NOT ASK FOR ONE** _ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747.md?page=40) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tippers/488747.md?page=42)