The MENU is a CRUEL GOD of ORDERING!
ALL fear the MENU and TREMBLE BEFORE it’s MIGHT!
Yo, Springs1
Just out of curiosity, how WOULD you FEEL if Engelbert Humperdinck were to COME INTO a RESTAURANT and GET seated while a PACK OF ANGRY RABID WOLVES were TRYING TO GNAW on a BABY WHO WAS trapped in a CAR WITHOUT milk??
Oh snap.
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Because it isn’t that big of deal in the overall scheme of things. Truly–so they gave the mother the milk first. Did you really enjoy your meal less? Honestly? You don’t think perhaps the childs need might perhaps come before yours–especially when we are talking seconds at most? Honestly?[/ QUOTE]
I understand it’s not the end of the world, BUT, if I see servers being unfair, HUGE points off, because they COULD have DECIDED to do just as I would have done.
A real life example. We waited almost 50 minutes for our entrees at Red Lobster once(me and my husband). There was a couple that wasn’t even in the building(this was 11:15a.m. or so we were seated, so no wait for a table or anything or even remotely busy at that time on a friday of all things even, not even a weekend), that got seated much later. Our waitress has our 2 entrees finally and 2 side salads for that couple. Instead of bypassing that table to bring ours first, because that’s the fair way and common sense way that hot food that was ordered a long time ago would have been first, NO, she actually had the GALL to give the couple their side salads first BEFORE giving us our entrees. Her tip was a dollar. WHY? 100% TOTAL DISRESPECT! Waiting that long for your food, then doing that is totally rude. I don’t care if it’s mere 10-15 seconds difference. It’s the ACT of doing something unfair that pisses me off, NOT as much about the seconds. Do you understand?
YES I sure as hell did. I was pissed at the waitress. I had asked for a box much later after we finished eating along with the check and some containers for my condiments. She only brings the box and containers, meanwhile decides all on her own to disrespect us again by going to get 4 drinks(tea I believe) to some customers. Instead of getting the check as well since I asked for that first. If those 4 people asked for their teas first, which I don’t think they did, she shouldn’t have been coming by our table. We weren’t even near that other table even.
No, we had a miserable time to be honest. I liked my food, but that’s it. I didn’t enjoy myself nor did my husband waiting that long for our food. It may have not been her fault that the food took so long to get cooked, but it sure was her fault she made us wait longer to receive our food from the tray she was carrying and made us wait longer to leave.
NO, the child was there AFTER us, therefore, the child can wait their turn like EVERYONE ELSE IN THIS WORLD! NO children don’t get to cut just because they are children. That’s wrong. If the baby was crying that much and needed milk, guess what? THE MOTHER CAN GO GET SOME MILK AT A CONVENIENCE STORE OR SOMETHING. She doesn’t have to stay. NO ONE MADE THIS MOTHER STAY THERE, did they?
The childs needs don’t come before mine, because that’s not my child or concern, that’s the mother’s concern. NO ONE FORCED that mother and child there. If the child needs milk, GUESS WHAT ***** THE MOTHER SHOULD CARRY IT IN THE DIAPER BAG like other NORMAL MOTHERS!****** **
Our wants would come before the child and mother’s wants, because we placed our orders first. If the mother would have asked for milk 30 minutes early(let’s say before we ordered our entrees), then the milk should come before even putting in our entrees into the computer or coming to get our entree orders even.
The child is no more or less important than ANYONE ELSE in this world. ALL of us are EQUALLY IMPORTANT! That means we placed our orders first, we should get them FIRST BEFORE ANYONE ELSE that ordered after us(unless they have a mistake with their order).
Okay, dude… bold or capitals (or even underline)… but not bold and caps. Nothing you have to say requires that much emphasis.
ETA: And absolutely none OF THIS. Please.
A server’s job isn’t to be fair. It’s to serve his or her section (i.e., more than one table) as efficiently as possible, which includes minimizing steps to the kitchen. That’s not being selfish; it’s being efficient. If that means you have to wait another 10 seconds for your soft drink, so be it. These people are trying to keep a lot of balls in the air at once; the least you can do is have some appreciation of that.
It IS the god of ordering. The menu sometimes doesn’t always state what comes in something, but when it does, you can rely on it that it should come with what the menu states. Now, sometimes the servers don’t get it right, but if the menu states an item comes with something or not with something, the menu is correct.
I am talking about that you can rely that the menu description is correct is what I am saying. If there isn’t a menu description, then there’s nothing to go by.
It’s only fefficient for the last person that asked for something. The first person waits the longest when you do things to minimize steps.
A customer’s job is to be fair when tipping, correct? WHY not the other way around when servers serve? It’s not more efficient to hand out things on a tray in the wrong order if you have to pass by that table on your way back like the Red Lobster waitress did to us.
Sometimes things are not always more efficient for everyone. Waiting 10 minutes to get 2 cokes is NOT EFFICIENT!
It IS being selfish, because they are not thinking about if that were THEM in the customer’s seat waiting longer for what they would be asking for if that were them.
It’s being lazy also not to do things MORALLY RIGHT.
If that means I tip you less, SO BE IT! See, what goes around, comes around. You don’t care about my time, I don’t care much about your tip.
If you don’t care about my 10 seconds, why should I care about your rent money?
Well Springs all I can tell you is I think YOU are the unfair one. I won’t convince you, but you know what I can sleep at night with my decisions in life. And more importantly I know that when I go back to that restaurant I will get great service and you may, or may not, depending upon if they remember you.
Maybe you were the lady my wife and I laughed at last time we were at Red Lobster. She was quite upset with something about her lobster and kept sending it back—three times! Her poor husband is all I could think of–I could tell he wanted to crawl under the table. She left a shitty tip–but you know what? We made up for it and thus the server got her tip afterall.
I will get my Karma in life and customers like you will get theirs. I can live with that. You have a good life okay, and perhaps you might want to switch to decaf–just a suggestion!
Now, can everyone understand why I am so opposed to the tipping system?
Springs1, based on your posts in this thread, I feel it safe to postulate that you are a server’s worst nightmare. On the off chance that you ever do have a satisfactory dining experience, it will be because, mercifully, your meds are working.
HOW? I am VERY FAIR.
I have NEVER sent my food back more than once.
As far as the server getting his or her tip anyways, so what if you want to pay for someone else’s tip. That’s YOUR STUPIDITY. NO WAY I CARE ABOUT WHAT OTHER CUSTOMER’S TIP! Each customer is responsible for tipping their own tip.
Karma is treating the server as they treated you. The servers that treated us unfairly and poorly got their karma with a bad or no tip. What goes around, comes around.
How do you know she left a bad tip? Did you go peaking at her table by being nosy? I mean seriously. HOW DO YOU KNOW she left a bad tip?
The food issue may not have been the server’s fault. It may have been the server’s fault to where she was justified to leave a bad tip. We don’t know, do we?
You only say that because I ask for a lot and that I want things to be fair. Secondly, I do have MANY OVER satisfactory dining experiences just let you know.
No, I say that because you are clearly unhinged.
True-but you know what. When I go to my favorite restaurant, I get served right away. I am the person they bring the food to first, my drink comes right away and it is filled promptly without me asking. Why? Because I tip ‘John’ the waiter there very well. So maybe “I” am the person that is getting my drink before you, but ‘John’ is fine if you tip him poorly because he knows he will make it up with me. But the reality, in my opinion is that you are easily in the minority when it comes to stuff like this. Unless it is seriously impacting your meal, most people don’t pay attention to the fact they didn’t get their drink before table 2 did–it just isn’t in their scope of caring.
You care about that stuff, but it is a zero sum game. Their aren’t enough of ‘you’ to impact the system.
Please don’t go away, Springs1, you’re funny.
“Over satisfactory?”
I agree with Carol Stream.
Stick around awhile, Springs1, you make me all giggly.
I understand that you have a sense of self-entitlement that staggers the imagination. What is unfair about the server dropping off someone’s salad on the way to your table instead of carrying them to your table and then back?
I actually feel sorry for you. Instead of enjoying your dining out experience, you spend the entire time watching the server like a hawk, chalking up every imagined slight to your precious snowflake self and fuming as you tot up the reasons to reduce your tip. But I feel sorrier for any dining companion you might have, who no doubt has to spend the entire meal listening to you kvetching about the piss-poor service.
Or maybe the server had waited on Springs1 before. Or maybe both.
At my very favorite restaurant, I make a habit of going around to my favorite servers there and shaking their hands during December. In my palm is a twenty dollar bill, folded up neatly, and I wish them happy holidays, though I suspect that most of them are Catholic. They always say that I didn’t have to do that…but I always get the seat I prefer all year round, I get my tea topped off first, and my food gets delivered first. All in all, the servers do their best to keep me happy, and coming back. Unfair? I don’t think so. I’m spreading a little happiness around, and they do their best to keep me happy, too. I can cook at home, and I’m a good cook, but I go out to eat to enjoy myself. The staff makes sure that I have no complaints about the service. I am picky about my food and service, and the staff takes that into consideration.
I really don’t think that most servers think it is disrespectful to try to anticipate a diner’s wishes. I am delighted when a server comes around with a pitcher of tea, holds it aloft for me to see, and fills up my glass when I nod while talking to my companion.
I get the impression that you are very unhappy and angry much of the time. I also get the impression that much of this is your own doing. You seem to try to find fault and offense in every situation, instead of realizing that your preferred ways of doing things are not the norm.
Quite possibly the servers in the restaurants have decided that you cannot be pleased no matter what they do. In just about every job that deals with the public, the waiter or cashier or whatever learns that some people won’t be pleased. I know that at every store and job (even including this one) I’ve ever had, the staff talked about the customers and any problems they might have. In the convenience store, there was one guy who thought that the cashier should void out any transaction that was ongoing, so that HE could get checked out without waiting his turn in line. There was the guy who thought that he could buy alcohol without ID. In the dress shop, it was the woman who kept returning garments after she’d worn them, and expect full credit for them. You have probably built up a reputation as someone who sees disrespect and unfairness no matter how much the servers try to please you, and now you won’t be served as swiftly or as willingly as someone who doesn’t come in with an attitude. What you consider as “fair” is not always what others would consider fair.
I’d say that getting the baby a bottle of milk is fair to EVERYONE in the restaurant. Nobody, staff or patrons, wants to hear a screaming kid. Personally, I’d prefer it if parents would leave their kids at home if they’re liable to scream, as I did. However, I don’t mind if my meal arrives a little later if my server was making sure that the atmosphere was quiet.
Even ENGLEBERT?!?! You didn’t answer MY EARLIER question.
:dubious: What if the CHILD was CIRCUMCISED!? POOR little CIRCUMCISED child with NO COMFORT or HOPE in the WORLD except for it’s hope for some MILK?! Would THAT make A difference?
OR WHAT if the MOTHER drove the CHILD HERE in an SUV? Would that MATTER?!
Please ANSWER THESE questions! WE NEED to KNOW!
This thread has become a bucket of crazy and awesome.
I mean CRAZY and AWESOME**!!!
I just noticed this. Are you really saying that anyone who decides to do something differently than you would have is wrong?
That you are the ultimate arbiter of exactly how waiting should be done?
Every detail, every time, every restaurant?
Regardless of the fact that you are not privvy to possibly relevant details of what else is going, how the manager of the restaurant wants things done, what might be happening back in the kitchen, etc?
Wow.