# Bad tipping AND conservative nonsense? Straight Dopers, assemble! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 8, 2013, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tipping-and-conservative-nonsense-straight-dopers-assemble/646436 "2013-01-08T02:35:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tipping-and-conservative-nonsense-straight-dopers-assemble/646436/1 "2013-01-08T02:35:08Z")
[This picture](https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/182096_10151212690361275_1531780344_n.jpg) has been making its way around Tumblr and if the micro-blogging site is to be believed, this was left on a table for a waitperson to find. Apparently, this person’s discretionary spending is still such that they can eat at restaurants, just not tip. I have to say: this might actually be the stupidest thing I’ve seen in a very long time. Impressive! ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tipping-and-conservative-nonsense-straight-dopers-assemble/646436/2 "2013-01-08T02:42:29Z")
I hope he goes back to that restaurant. I also hope he likes ice water. In his lap. ---
**Author:** ![Ruby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/13edae/32.png) [@Ruby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruby)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tipping-and-conservative-nonsense-straight-dopers-assemble/646436/3 "2013-01-08T02:43:31Z")
Ass. ---
**Author:** ![Zjestika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/8edcca/32.png) [@Zjestika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zjestika)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tipping-and-conservative-nonsense-straight-dopers-assemble/646436/4 "2013-01-08T02:47:51Z")
I actually knew someone who tipped poorly because they were trying to save money. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tipping-and-conservative-nonsense-straight-dopers-assemble/646436/5 "2013-01-08T02:49:35Z")
If he makes enough money that Obama doesn’t think he’s paying his “fair share”, then he could afford to leave a tip if his taxes were twice as high as they are now. I call “total dick”. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tipping-and-conservative-nonsense-straight-dopers-assemble/646436/6 "2013-01-08T02:52:29Z")
Dick move by a dick. ---
**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tipping-and-conservative-nonsense-straight-dopers-assemble/646436/7 "2013-01-08T02:57:18Z")
If true, very dickish. I hope the waitstaff remembers his face. The reasoning is bullshit, it’s just a petty way to be cheap and blame it on someone else. ---
**Author:** ![Faruiza](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecd19e/32.png) [@Faruiza](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Faruiza)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tipping-and-conservative-nonsense-straight-dopers-assemble/646436/8 "2013-01-08T03:00:07Z")
If I knew this cockwaffle, my hair would catch fire. ---
**Author:** ![Sevencl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d9b06d/32.png) [@Sevencl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sevencl)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tipping-and-conservative-nonsense-straight-dopers-assemble/646436/9 "2013-01-08T03:10:23Z")
> [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > [This picture](https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/182096_10151212690361275_1531780344_n.jpg) has been making its way around Tumblr and if the micro-blogging site is to be believed, this was left on a table for a waitperson to find. Apparently, this person’s discretionary spending is still such that they can eat at restaurants, just not tip. > > I have to say: this might actually be the stupidest thing I’ve seen in a very long time. Impressive! I don’t get why it’s stupid. His taxes went up, so he has less disposable income, so he feels less generous. Seems fair. I don’t understand why tipping seems to be perceived as an obligation in the US. I’m certainly not obliged to take on the burden of making up for someone’s poor wages. It’s just not my responsibility. I go to a restaurant and pay what I’m charged, I’m certainly not going to just give away money on top of that. So acting like this guy is in the wrong for _not doing any more something he wasn’t ever obliged to_ baffles me. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tipping-and-conservative-nonsense-straight-dopers-assemble/646436/10 "2013-01-08T03:20:24Z")
> [@Faruiza](#): > > If I knew this cockwaffle, my hair would catch fire. Cockwaffle?! :eek: ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tipping-and-conservative-nonsense-straight-dopers-assemble/646436/11 "2013-01-08T03:22:52Z")
I remember an old letter to Ann Landers or Dear Abby. The letter writer told how he and his wife would leave as a “tip” a Bible verse written on a small piece of paper for the wait person. He was quite smug about it. Let’s all ignore Sevencl. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tipping-and-conservative-nonsense-straight-dopers-assemble/646436/12 "2013-01-08T03:29:34Z")
This is why resaurants have a “we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone” policy, so dicks like this don’t get to pull this shit on a regular basis. ---
**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tipping-and-conservative-nonsense-straight-dopers-assemble/646436/13 "2013-01-08T03:29:44Z")
> [@Sevencl](#): > > I don’t understand why tipping seems to be perceived as an obligation in the US. I’m certainly not obliged to take on the burden of making up for someone’s poor wages. It’s just not my responsibility. I go to a restaurant and pay what I’m charged, I’m certainly not going to just give away money on top of that. So acting like this guy is in the wrong for _not doing any more something he wasn’t ever obliged to_ baffles me. Ok, well, just because you’re a social retard that refuses to abide by the customs of the culture in which you live doesn’t make everyone else the weird one for calling you out on your bad behavior. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tipping-and-conservative-nonsense-straight-dopers-assemble/646436/14 "2013-01-08T03:31:11Z")
> [@Sevencl](#): > > I don’t get why it’s stupid. His taxes went up, so he has less disposable income, so he feels less generous. Seems fair. > > I don’t understand why tipping seems to be perceived as an obligation in the US. I’m certainly not obliged to take on the burden of making up for someone’s poor wages. It’s just not my responsibility. I go to a restaurant and pay what I’m charged, I’m certainly not going to just give away money on top of that. So acting like this guy is in the wrong for _not doing any more something he wasn’t ever obliged to_ baffles me. Somebody smack Mr. Pink for me! ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tipping-and-conservative-nonsense-straight-dopers-assemble/646436/15 "2013-01-08T03:38:29Z")
Of course, this is most probably a bullshit photo. ---
**Author:** ![Sevencl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d9b06d/32.png) [@Sevencl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sevencl)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tipping-and-conservative-nonsense-straight-dopers-assemble/646436/16 "2013-01-08T03:40:17Z")
> [@ladyfoxfyre](#): > > Ok, well, just because you’re a social retard that refuses to abide by the customs of the culture in which you live doesn’t make everyone else the weird one for calling you out on your bad behavior. If not throwing good money at a total stranger because I don’t consider his wage situation any of my business makes me a retard, gurgle bleh durr. ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tipping-and-conservative-nonsense-straight-dopers-assemble/646436/17 "2013-01-08T03:41:49Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > Of course, this is most probably a bullshit photo. We’ve already seen one poster in this thread defending this sort of behavior, so what’s your justification for calling it “bullshit”? ---
**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tipping-and-conservative-nonsense-straight-dopers-assemble/646436/18 "2013-01-08T03:43:38Z")
> [@Sevencl](#): > > If not throwing good money at a total stranger because I don’t consider his wage situation any of my business makes me a retard, gurgle bleh durr. No, that’s not what makes you a retard, actually. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tipping-and-conservative-nonsense-straight-dopers-assemble/646436/19 "2013-01-08T03:46:20Z")
> [@Sevencl](#): > > If not throwing good money at a total stranger because I don’t consider his wage situation any of my business makes me a retard, gurgle bleh durr. Right on! Let that person who waited on you take home $2/hr; it’s not your fault they choose such a shitty job, amirite? They shouldn’t assume anything of their customers when they take their orders, tipping is NOT a well-understood, unspoken aspect of a waiter’s job that represents a large percentage of their take-home pay! Fuck them! Finally, someone has the balls to say it like it is. ---
**Author:** ![Sevencl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d9b06d/32.png) [@Sevencl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sevencl)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tipping-and-conservative-nonsense-straight-dopers-assemble/646436/20 "2013-01-08T03:49:28Z")
See, I know you’re trying to be sarcastic, but that only works when the things you’re saying aren’t actually accurate. Can anyone explain WHY they think it’s my responsibility to make up for someone’s poor wages? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bad-tipping-and-conservative-nonsense-straight-dopers-assemble/646436.md?page=2)