# badchad suspended

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/badchad-suspended/386039>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 29, 2006, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/badchad-suspended/386039 "2006-12-29T22:42:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2006, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/badchad-suspended/386039/21 "2006-12-30T01:32:26Z")

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[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers]  
Evil Captor got an ATMB thread (well, announcement) when he was suspended, too, seven months earlier. As far as I know, he and Excalibre are the only people to come back from suspension and not (almost) immediately melt down again, earning a permanent ban.  
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\*\*EC \*\* has done well. \*\*Excalibre \*\* has so far decided not to return. He has said as much in Emails to various posters. Maybe he will return with the New Year.

**fluiddruid** : What is the current board practice as far as ATMB announcements on why a poster is suspended?

I think\*\* Q.E.D.\*\* might be wrong on this and of course you are the only Mod in this thread so far, you either know or can find out for sure.

Jim

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2006, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/badchad-suspended/386039/22 "2006-12-30T01:39:51Z")

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[QUOTE=hajario]  
Also **Liberal**.  
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Didn’t he walk away on his own?

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2006, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/badchad-suspended/386039/23 "2006-12-30T01:42:22Z")

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[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers]  
Didn’t he walk away on his own?  
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Yes he did, in a very dramatic way he requested he be banned. \*\*Tuba \*\* wisely changed his status to something like _sabbatical_. I do not recall the exact term that was used.

So he left and came back under his own terms. I noticed he lost the Charter Member status. So I am guessing he allowed his account to lapse.

Jim

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2006, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/badchad-suspended/386039/24 "2006-12-30T01:42:36Z")

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[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers]  
Didn’t he walk away on his own?  
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More than once. He was also suspended for cause.

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**Author:** ![George\_Kaplin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3e96dc/32.png) [@George\_Kaplin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/George_Kaplin)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2006, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/badchad-suspended/386039/25 "2006-12-30T01:43:04Z")

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For what little it’s worth, I heartily disagree with **badchad’s** suspension.

Yes, he is brusque. He is abrupt. He isn’t unduly deferential to religious belief. The fact of the matter is that no argument can be made for the existence of the Christian God that can’t be effectively rebutted with a simple, off the cuff, kneejerk response.

Yes, he was mean to **Poly**. But I do not recall him ever turning personal in their exchanges. Snarky, yes. But never personal. I would bet even money that **Poly** has personally insulted **badchad** many more times than **badchad** has ever insulted **Poly.** Furthermore, I can think of several posters who have been involved in far more vicious personal vendetta’s and escaped censure. And to be honest, **badchad’s** treatment of **Poly** is positively civil in comparison to the treatment fundamentalist Christians or Iraq war supporters receive at the hands of many regulars here. The fact of the matter is that if **Polycarp** were a Bush apologist or a Creationist, no-one would give a shit how he was treated. His suspension seems symptomatic of an unconscious bias towards the pillars of our community on the part of both the regulars and the administration.

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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2006, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/badchad-suspended/386039/26 "2006-12-30T01:56:18Z")

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[QUOTE=George Kaplin]  
FBut I do not recall him ever turning personal in their exchanges. Snarky, yes. But never personal.  
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Did you miss post #8? I’d call that personal.

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**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2006, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/badchad-suspended/386039/27 "2006-12-30T01:58:15Z")

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[QUOTE=What Exit?]  
**fluiddruid** : What is the current board practice as far as ATMB announcements on why a poster is suspended?  
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There is no formal policy. If there was not an appropriate thread to post the reason in, I would have posted in ATMB.

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2006, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/badchad-suspended/386039/28 "2006-12-30T02:00:58Z")

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Sucks. Plain and simple. May placate the masses to get their share of flesh, but _beyond_ his abrasiveness, I thought he did more than his share of lifting in “fighting ignorance.”

No matter. 'suppose he lives on in “spirit.”

:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2006, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/badchad-suspended/386039/29 "2006-12-30T02:04:36Z")

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[QUOTE=Q.E.D.]  
Did you miss post #8? I’d call that personal.  
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Yeah, for Pete’s sake. How did this POS manage to attract so many apologists? I am fascinated by how much attention this adolescent, pseudo-expert has created (from myself included), and by all the outrage over his “mistreatment.” God almighty, he is an unmitigated shit, who spouts insulting non sequiturs. I am not only glad he has a suspension, I hope he gets deported, excommunicated, and impeached. Wait! I’m guilty of what I am expressing bemusement over. Okay, let me try again–I hope he gets Saturday detention.

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**Author:** ![Syntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Syntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syntropy)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2006, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/badchad-suspended/386039/30 "2006-12-30T02:14:28Z")

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[QUOTE=RedFury]  
Sucks. Plain and simple. May placate the masses to get their share of flesh, but _beyond_ his abrasiveness, I thought he did more than his share of lifting in “fighting ignorance.”

No matter. 'suppose he lives on in “spirit.”

:rolleyes:  
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Yes, he’s a martyr to the cause. Holy crap, overreact much? He doesn’t “Live on in spirit.” He wasn’t killed. He wasn’t even banned. He was suspended for thirty days with good reason. Cyber stalking is still stalking, and he not only admitted it, he gloated about it.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2006, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/badchad-suspended/386039/31 "2006-12-30T02:21:09Z")

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I came back from a suspension and have so far not “flamed out”. Also, **Liberal** was [actually suspended](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=330807) before his (most recent) voluntary hiatus.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2006, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/badchad-suspended/386039/32 "2006-12-30T02:27:53Z")

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[QUOTE=RedFury]  
Sucks. Plain and simple. May placate the masses to get their share of flesh, but _beyond_ his abrasiveness, I thought he did more than his share of lifting in “fighting ignorance.”

No matter. 'suppose he lives on in “spirit.”

:rolleyes:  
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> [@badchad](#):
>
> Christ is a cunt.

You call that “fighting ignorance”?

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2006, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/badchad-suspended/386039/33 "2006-12-30T02:31:10Z")

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[QUOTE=Maureen]  
Yes, he’s a martyr to the cause. Holy crap, overreact much? He doesn’t “Live on in spirit.” He wasn’t killed. He wasn’t even banned. He was suspended for thirty days with good reason. Cyber stalking is still stalking, and he not only admitted it, he gloated about it.  
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**Red** , old pal, I often side with you, but on this issue I agree with **Maureen** and think you’re wrong.

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**Author:** ![Nic2004](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/4491bb/32.png) [@Nic2004](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nic2004)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2006, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/badchad-suspended/386039/34 "2006-12-30T02:35:21Z")

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Another atheist speaking up here. I have much more respect for **Poly** than **MS** (see BC thread) and recognize the difference between debate and stalking. Those in opposition to this suspension are doing here what I often see them complain about in such threads. They are clinging to a perceived injustice and tuning out all that does not support this preconceived notion.  
I’d sooner have **Poly** in my corner on most anything than a gang of **MS** ’s.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2006, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/badchad-suspended/386039/35 "2006-12-30T02:40:11Z")

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**Lord Ashtar** , don’t you think taking **badchad** ’s line completely out of it’s context is dishonest? I sure do. Besides, it’s most unseemly to attack someone who cannot defend themselves. heh.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2006, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/badchad-suspended/386039/36 "2006-12-30T02:49:13Z")

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[QUOTE=CarnalK]  
**Lord Ashtar** , don’t you think taking **badchad** ’s line completely out of it’s context is dishonest? I sure do.  
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I disagree.

> [@](#):
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> Besides, it’s most unseemly to attack someone who cannot defend themselves. heh.

How am I attacking him by quoting him?

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2006, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/badchad-suspended/386039/37 "2006-12-30T02:59:27Z")

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By quoting him out of context, like I said.

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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2006, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/badchad-suspended/386039/38 "2006-12-30T03:26:43Z")

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[QUOTE=CarnalK]  
By quoting him out of context, like I said.  
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Ok, let’s

[quote]  
([http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7774477&postcount=16](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7774477&postcount=16)) him _in_ context:

> [@badchad](#):
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> > [@yojimbo](#):
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> > My sig used to be “If you Christians were more like your Christ the world would be a better place” - Mohandas K. Gandhi
> 
> Yeah, but Christ was a cunt too.

Nope. Doesn’t change a damn thing.

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**Author:** ![Scotticher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Scotticher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scotticher)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2006, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/badchad-suspended/386039/39 "2006-12-30T03:40:22Z")

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I, too, think that the membership of this board is best served if a thread is started in ATMB if a very active member is banned. Not the people who are socks…but yes. When someone who is an active member, who has been a jerk or otherwise violated the rules of this board is suspended or banned? I think we are best served with the kind of explanations that were posted for a time. I don’t know why they discontinued doing that, but I think the PTB should reconsider and start doing it again.

Not that I take issue with this particular suspension, because I don’t. I just think it serves all of us best if explanations are given.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2006, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/badchad-suspended/386039/40 "2006-12-30T04:07:09Z")

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Reading it in context would usually include actually looking at what was actually being discussed, dipshit.

> [@yojimbo](#):
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> Why should you be moral when there isn’t a sky pixie telling you you’re going to hell if you’re not.
> 
> There are millions of Christians that don’t think like that. Unfortunately there are millions who do as well. Some people seem to need a reason to feel empathy and civility.
> 
> There are also many atheists who are uncaring immoral fucks. The lack of god doesn’t do it however. They’re just cunts like the religious ones.
> 
> Basically a lot of people are cunts. A lot aren’t though, so it’s not all bad.
> 
> Quote:  
> I think a large part of Christians are willfully ignorant of the teachings of Christ.  
> My sig used to be “If you Christians were more like your Christ the world would be a better place” - Mohandas K. Gandhi

> [@badchad](#):
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> Yeah, but Christ was a cunt too.

See how yojimbo was already tossing around the word “cunt”? See how that changes the context of badchad’s comment?

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