# Baddest Fictional Bad Guy in Movies from this Universe **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 15, 2013, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baddest-fictional-bad-guy-in-movies-from-this-universe/653016 "2013-03-15T16:22:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![ministryman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@ministryman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ministryman)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2013, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baddest-fictional-bad-guy-in-movies-from-this-universe/653016/21 "2013-03-15T20:41:02Z")
> [@Tethered\_Kite](#): > > My vote is for killing machine Anton Chigurh in “No Country for Old Men.” +1 for him. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2013, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baddest-fictional-bad-guy-in-movies-from-this-universe/653016/22 "2013-03-15T20:50:40Z")
+2 for Anton ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2013, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baddest-fictional-bad-guy-in-movies-from-this-universe/653016/23 "2013-03-15T20:59:22Z")
You know who else was a bad guy? Hitler ---
**Author:** ![LawMonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d6d6ee/32.png) [@LawMonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LawMonkey)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2013, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baddest-fictional-bad-guy-in-movies-from-this-universe/653016/24 "2013-03-16T01:21:07Z")
> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#): > > Daniel Plainview from _There Will Be Blood_ has gotta rank pretty high. Motherfucker’s always drinking my milkshake. And he’s all the way across the room! If that’s not evil, I don’t know what is. ---
**Author:** ![Renifer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/71c47a/32.png) [@Renifer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Renifer)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2013, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baddest-fictional-bad-guy-in-movies-from-this-universe/653016/25 "2013-03-17T03:54:33Z")
The most evil ones I can think of are those who exist in real life – Hitler, Dahmer, Milosevic, Pol Pot, Idi Amin. Though Schindler’s List and The Last King of Scotland are fictional works, I don’t think using a real life person counts. There’s General Vidal in _Pan’s Labyrinth_. Though from a fantasy movie, General Vidal is not a fantasy creature nor does he have any superpowers. That scene where he’s torturing that man for stuttering is chilling. We make up horrors to cope with the real ones. – Stephen King ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2013, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baddest-fictional-bad-guy-in-movies-from-this-universe/653016/26 "2013-03-17T03:58:16Z")
Nicolas Cage’s character in Lord of War. Yuri Orlov He is horrible and beyond redemption by the end. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2013, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baddest-fictional-bad-guy-in-movies-from-this-universe/653016/27 "2013-03-17T04:29:13Z")
Keyser Söze ---
**Author:** ![sco3tt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@sco3tt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sco3tt)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2013, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baddest-fictional-bad-guy-in-movies-from-this-universe/653016/28 "2013-03-17T05:08:39Z")
Why did you exclude Darth Vader in the OP? He’s in our universe, just in a galaxy far, far away. But of course that was a long time ago. ---
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2013, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baddest-fictional-bad-guy-in-movies-from-this-universe/653016/29 "2013-03-17T05:14:16Z")
Possibly the folks who run the hostel in Hostel movies? I only saw the first one (and I’m sorry I did), but those were some really sadistic, messed up freaks. ---
**Author:** ![standingwave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@standingwave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/standingwave)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2013, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baddest-fictional-bad-guy-in-movies-from-this-universe/653016/30 "2013-03-17T05:31:42Z")
[Tim Roth in Rob Roy (1995)](http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ISgvrKvbd-4/TyY0plPshCI/AAAAAAAAAYQ/K-oEDjrqzxU/s1600/rob-roy-24.jpg). Nothing redeeming about his character at all. Roger Ebert: _The film’s villains are magnificent because they are so smart, cunning and smarmy: Not content with merely being despicable, they work at it._ ---
**Author:** ![Tethered\_Kite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a5b964/32.png) [@Tethered\_Kite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tethered_Kite)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2013, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baddest-fictional-bad-guy-in-movies-from-this-universe/653016/31 "2013-03-17T05:41:36Z")
Before I laid eyes on Mr. Chigurh I thought Rutger Hauer’s portrayal of John Rider in “The Hitcher” was bone-chilling. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2013, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baddest-fictional-bad-guy-in-movies-from-this-universe/653016/32 "2013-03-17T05:52:36Z")
General Jack D. Ripper ---
**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2013, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baddest-fictional-bad-guy-in-movies-from-this-universe/653016/33 "2013-03-18T13:42:49Z")
> [@SykoSkotty](#): > > The hillbillies from “Deliverance.” Eh, they’re just misunderstood. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2013, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baddest-fictional-bad-guy-in-movies-from-this-universe/653016/34 "2013-03-18T15:07:23Z")
Robert Michum’s character in _Night of the Hunter_. Now that I think of it, his character in _Cape Fear_, too. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baddest-fictional-bad-guy-in-movies-from-this-universe/653016.md?page=1)