# Bait Bus! **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 20, 2003, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bait-bus/214250 "2003-11-20T04:04:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![pizzabrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e9c0ed/32.png) [@pizzabrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pizzabrat)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bait-bus/214250/1 "2003-11-20T04:04:55Z")
I know it has to be fake, but it’s hilarious! …is it fake? And if it’s real, I know there’s an argument that it’s morally repugnant because of it’s deception (I was watching it with a friend and he said he couldn’t watch anymore because it wasn’t right), but ma-ha-ha-han, this stuff is great. It seems like they only pick on foreigners though; maybe because they’re less likely to be uptight about the whole thing (I think American men subscribe to that sexual dichotomy more). link intentionally not included. If you don’t know what I’m talking about, forget about it. And if you insist on googling it anyway, keep in mind that it’s NOT WORK SAFE! ---
**Author:** ![Fibber\_McGee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a6a055/32.png) [@Fibber\_McGee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fibber_McGee)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bait-bus/214250/2 "2003-11-20T04:41:09Z")
Of course it’s fake! All those porn sights that “trick” women into getting naked or having sex are fake. Those women are porn actresses, they’ve signed releases, etc. If it weren’t all fake those guys would get sued out of existence and might also go to jail. Is it fake . . . :smack: ---
**Author:** ![pizzabrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e9c0ed/32.png) [@pizzabrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pizzabrat)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bait-bus/214250/3 "2003-11-20T04:55:40Z")
But these guys “act” so real. Most people in this industry don’t act that real. And there’s no editing! And according to something I read, some guys did sue them, and lost! It IS REAL!! IT IS!!! ---
**Author:** ![Short\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Short\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Short_Guy)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bait-bus/214250/4 "2003-11-20T11:09:59Z")
And teenage girls DO have pillow fights in their underwear during sleepovers, dammit! ---
**Author:** ![Fern\_Forest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/71c47a/32.png) [@Fern\_Forest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fern_Forest)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bait-bus/214250/5 "2003-11-20T11:51:06Z")
Probably the reason it looks and sounds so real is because they use an absolute minimum of preperation. They just tell the girl to go here, we’re coming by in a blue van at 2:30. Act innocent. So no one knows how things will turn out but they do have a general idea. Porn stars sound so fake because they’re reciting lines they’ve memorized. ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bait-bus/214250/6 "2003-11-20T15:18:01Z")
Uh, I thought the Bait Bus was guy-on-guy action. Who are these “actresses” of whom you speak? As far as its being real or not, a signed release isn’t always required before broadcasting someone’s image. News programs interviewing people on the street don’t need releases before broadcasting the footage, for example. Given that what I’ve seen of the Bait Bus (which is limited to the free preview movies) there are multiple camera angles involved, all parties concerned _must_ know that filming is taking place. Presumably there is a reduced expectation of privacy in a moving vehicle on a public street. Whether all of that adds up to “the site is real” or not I don’t know, but the possibility isn’t excluded. ---
**Author:** ![MeanJoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanjoe/32/5693_2.png) [@MeanJoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanJoe)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bait-bus/214250/7 "2003-11-20T21:12:01Z")
Bang-Bus is M/F Bait-Bus is M/M Or so I’ve heard… from someone else… with questionable moral standards… 😉 MeanJoe ---
**Author:** ![Neurotik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bait-bus/214250/8 "2003-11-20T21:42:18Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Otto \* > **Uh, I thought the Bait Bus was guy-on-guy action. Who are these “actresses” of whom you speak?** The bait, I believe. ---
**Author:** ![troub](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troub/32/14802_2.png) [@troub](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/troub)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bait-bus/214250/9 "2003-11-20T21:44:08Z")
Well, **Otto** , I get your theory about the possibility of reduced expectation of privacy in a vehicle as relates to BB, but there are plenty of other sites featuring somewhat similar “trickery”–girls coming to an apartment to audition for a modelling job or calendar, to rent an apartment, etc., that would suggest expectation of privacy has nothing to with it. . .they _know_ what they’re doing and what they’re doing it for. I suppose it _is_ possible that these people “audition” several girls a day and only a few go along with it. However, on some of these sites there are girls who can be seen in similar situations on other sites (one of the BB girls, in particular), which is the most telling aspect of all. I agree with the “minimum of preparation” method proposed by **Fern Forest** , and also think it’s possible that some sites may place ads, draw hundreds of responses, and manage to find a few girls who go along with it and then are willing to sign releases after the fact (the hundreds who don’t, don’t). ---
**Author:** ![troub](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troub/32/14802_2.png) [@troub](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/troub)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bait-bus/214250/10 "2003-11-20T22:02:22Z")
Oh yeah, the ones with (IMO) the highest likelihood of being “real” (in the sense that the people involved may not have been aware that the video was for a website) is the CFF videos. Most acts on those are in a fairly public setting, and there’s probably very little expectation of privacy with 300 people standing around watching. However, most of these people are drunk out of their minds, so I don’t know if that would be a factor. I would almost think though that the party _may_ be advertised in such a way to notify people that it is being “filmed for a website. . .blah blah blah.” Maybe not. Don’t know. ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bait-bus/214250/11 "2003-11-20T22:37:09Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by MeanJoe \* > \*\*Or so I’ve heard… from someone else… with questionable moral standards… \*\* And how _is_ Mom these days? ---
**Author:** ![pokey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ebca7d/32.png) [@pokey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pokey)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2003, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bait-bus/214250/12 "2003-11-21T00:03:23Z")
Well, if it was real, how would they be sure the “models” were over 18 and free of STDs, etc? I mean, it must be a trick! ---
**Author:** ![pizzabrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e9c0ed/32.png) [@pizzabrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pizzabrat)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2003, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bait-bus/214250/13 "2003-11-21T01:09:05Z")
> [@](#): > > _pokey_ > Well, if it was real, how would they be sure the “models” were over 18 and free of STDs, etc? I mean, it must be a trick! It’s not like Bait Bus is even looking for young guys. They don’t anywhere near under 18, and probably nobody would try to make that charge. And they just take that zany risk in regaurds to STD’s (also, they use condoms during penetration). ---
**Author:** ![PigArcher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bcef8e/32.png) [@PigArcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PigArcher)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2003, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bait-bus/214250/14 "2003-11-21T02:49:16Z")
From BangBus’ site: > [@](#): > > All performers on this site are over the age of 18, have consented being photographed and/or filmed, have signed model release and provided proof of age, believe it is their right to engage in consensual sexual acts for the entertainment and education of other adults and believe it is your right as an adult to watch them doing what adults do. > [@](#): > > All performers are given the opportunity to be tested for sexually transmitted diseases at no charge to themselves within a reasonable amount of time before their performance. All activity is arranged and discussed in advance of filming and every effort is made to insure the health and safety of the performers and to ensure that their performance is a pleasant and enjoyable experience. I couldn’t connect to Bait bus, but I’m sure they have similar disclaimers. ---
**Author:** ![pokey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ebca7d/32.png) [@pokey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pokey)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2003, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bait-bus/214250/15 "2003-11-21T03:16:27Z")
> [@](#): > > All activity is arranged and discussed in advance of filming and every effort is made to insure the health and safety of the performers and to ensure that their performance is a pleasant and enjoyable experience. I’m not sure whether to be glad or laugh. Bangbus can be pretty degrading. You figure the only reason they have that disclaimer, is that they know that people worry! ---
**Author:** ![np2nbb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/76d3ee/32.png) [@np2nbb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/np2nbb)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bait-bus/214250/16 "2010-05-09T19:43:01Z")
Hello I noticed that there is an instance of at least 1 “actor” named “Bobby Rail” found on [circlejerkboys.com](http://circlejerkboys.com) who is also in baitbus. Same tats & blonde hair…& same tool. Since links are discouraged in this forum to directly compare this “actor”, you can google him & check him out…so much for the illusion. But he’s a great actor when you watch Baitbus & see him get angry for being tricked & then watch him in CircleJerkBoys & see him in a different milieu. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Amp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Amp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amp)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2010, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bait-bus/214250/17 "2010-05-09T19:46:40Z")
Woah, zombie porn thread. Shoot it in the head. ---
**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bait-bus/214250/18 "2010-05-10T15:29:46Z")
Saltpeter. To be sure. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2010, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bait-bus/214250/19 "2010-05-10T16:00:42Z")
> [@Amp](#): > > Woah, zombie porn thread. Shoot it in the head. Too… many… jokes… !!