# Baker’s Dozen III **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [August 22, 2022, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093 "2022-08-22T15:39:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 263
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2024, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/5241 "2024-05-30T13:17:14Z")
**And They Called It Pinball!** 1. [Mata Hari](https://assets-global.website-files.com/630f7e3a17d08a21ae05d20a/631742e90533da3dccb885da_bally-1970s-pinball-mata-hari-playfield-768x1024.jpeg) 2. [Dolly Parton](https://s3.amazonaws.com/libapps/accounts/13735/images/2013-010-0001.jpg) 3. [Funhouse](https://premiumpinballs.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/photo_2022-01-23_18-00-24.jpg) 4. [Royal Flush](https://www.ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=2035&picno=1934) 5. [The Beatles](https://www.vintagearcade.net/shop/pinball-games/beatles-gold-edition-still-in-the-box/) 6. [Gorgar](https://pinside.com/pinball/machine/gorgar) 7. [Blue Max](https://pinside.com/pinball/machine/blue-max/gallery#&gid=1&pid=3) 8. [Black Knight](https://pinside.com/pinball/machine/black-knight) 9. [Elvira’s House of Horrors](https://sternpinball.com/game/elviras-house-of-horrors/) ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2024, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/5242 "2024-05-30T14:08:51Z")
> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#): > > **And They Called It Pinball!** > > 1. [Mata Hari](https://assets-global.website-files.com/630f7e3a17d08a21ae05d20a/631742e90533da3dccb885da_bally-1970s-pinball-mata-hari-playfield-768x1024.jpeg) > 2. [Dolly Parton](https://s3.amazonaws.com/libapps/accounts/13735/images/2013-010-0001.jpg) > 3. [Funhouse](https://premiumpinballs.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/photo_2022-01-23_18-00-24.jpg) > 4. [Royal Flush](https://www.ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=2035&picno=1934) > 5. [The Beatles](https://www.vintagearcade.net/shop/pinball-games/beatles-gold-edition-still-in-the-box/) > 6. [Gorgar](https://pinside.com/pinball/machine/gorgar) > 7. [Blue Max](https://pinside.com/pinball/machine/blue-max/gallery#&gid=1&pid=3) > 8. [Black Knight](https://pinside.com/pinball/machine/black-knight) > 9. [Elvira’s House of Horrors](https://sternpinball.com/game/elviras-house-of-horrors/) > 10. [Eight Ball Deluxe](https://pinside.com/pinball/machine/eight-ball-deluxe) I was never a pinball fanatic tho, preferring to master several of the Golden Era arcade titles. ---
**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/5243 "2024-05-31T15:33:17Z")
**And They Called It Pinball!** 1. [Mata Hari](https://assets-global.website-files.com/630f7e3a17d08a21ae05d20a/631742e90533da3dccb885da_bally-1970s-pinball-mata-hari-playfield-768x1024.jpeg) 2. [Dolly Parton](https://s3.amazonaws.com/libapps/accounts/13735/images/2013-010-0001.jpg) 3. [Funhouse](https://premiumpinballs.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/photo_2022-01-23_18-00-24.jpg) 4. [Royal Flush](https://www.ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=2035&picno=1934) 5. [The Beatles](https://www.vintagearcade.net/shop/pinball-games/beatles-gold-edition-still-in-the-box/) 6. [Gorgar](https://pinside.com/pinball/machine/gorgar) 7. [Blue Max](https://pinside.com/pinball/machine/blue-max/gallery#&gid=1&pid=3) 8. [Black Knight](https://pinside.com/pinball/machine/black-knight) 9. [Elvira’s House of Horrors](https://sternpinball.com/game/elviras-house-of-horrors/) 10. [Eight Ball Deluxe](https://pinside.com/pinball/machine/eight-ball-deluxe) 11. [Hyperball](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RCmw74L1vQ) ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/5244 "2024-05-31T15:36:15Z")
**And They Called It Pinball!** 1. [Mata Hari](https://assets-global.website-files.com/630f7e3a17d08a21ae05d20a/631742e90533da3dccb885da_bally-1970s-pinball-mata-hari-playfield-768x1024.jpeg) 2. [Dolly Parton](https://s3.amazonaws.com/libapps/accounts/13735/images/2013-010-0001.jpg) 3. [Funhouse](https://premiumpinballs.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/photo_2022-01-23_18-00-24.jpg) 4. [Royal Flush](https://www.ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=2035&picno=1934) 5. [The Beatles](https://www.vintagearcade.net/shop/pinball-games/beatles-gold-edition-still-in-the-box/) 6. [Gorgar](https://pinside.com/pinball/machine/gorgar) 7. [Blue Max](https://pinside.com/pinball/machine/blue-max/gallery#&gid=1&pid=3) 8. [Black Knight](https://pinside.com/pinball/machine/black-knight) 9. [Elvira’s House of Horrors](https://sternpinball.com/game/elviras-house-of-horrors/) 10. [Eight Ball Deluxe](https://pinside.com/pinball/machine/eight-ball-deluxe) 11. [Hyperball](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RCmw74L1vQ) 12. [The Walking Dead Pro Edition](https://www.joystixgames.com/product/the-walking-dead-pro-edition/) Saw this in a bar a few months ago. Nothing says “pinball fun” like flesh-eating zombies! ---
**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/5245 "2024-05-31T15:42:55Z")
**And They Called It Pinball!** 1. [Mata Hari](https://assets-global.website-files.com/630f7e3a17d08a21ae05d20a/631742e90533da3dccb885da_bally-1970s-pinball-mata-hari-playfield-768x1024.jpeg) 2. [Dolly Parton](https://s3.amazonaws.com/libapps/accounts/13735/images/2013-010-0001.jpg) 3. [Funhouse](https://premiumpinballs.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/photo_2022-01-23_18-00-24.jpg) 4. [Royal Flush](https://www.ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=2035&picno=1934) 5. [The Beatles](https://www.vintagearcade.net/shop/pinball-games/beatles-gold-edition-still-in-the-box/) 6. [Gorgar](https://pinside.com/pinball/machine/gorgar) 7. [Blue Max](https://pinside.com/pinball/machine/blue-max/gallery#&gid=1&pid=3) 8. [Black Knight](https://pinside.com/pinball/machine/black-knight) 9. [Elvira’s House of Horrors](https://sternpinball.com/game/elviras-house-of-horrors/) 10. [Eight Ball Deluxe](https://pinside.com/pinball/machine/eight-ball-deluxe) 11. [Hyperball](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RCmw74L1vQ) 12. [The Walking Dead Pro Edition](https://www.joystixgames.com/product/the-walking-dead-pro-edition/) 13. [Pinbot](https://pinside.com/pinball/machine/pinbot) **Films Where Disney flagrantly changed storylines from historical accounts and/or source materials** 1. Pocohontas - where to begin? How about she never married John Smith ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/5246 "2024-05-31T15:49:20Z")
**Films Where Disney flagrantly changed storylines from historical accounts and/or source materials** 1. Pocohontas - where to begin? How about she never married John Smith 2. The Little Mermaid - In Hans Christian Anderson’s story, Ariel’s transformation into human causes her constant pain and the prince marries someone else. Ariel chooses to sacrifice herself rather than kill the prince. ---
**Author:** ![Bicycle\_Bill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bicycle_bill/32/6208_2.png) [@Bicycle\_Bill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bicycle_Bill)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/5247 "2024-05-31T18:18:39Z")
**Films Where Disney flagrantly changed storylines from historical accounts and/or source materials** 1. Pocohontas - where to begin? How about she never married John Smith 2. The Little Mermaid - In Hans Christian Anderson’s story, Ariel’s transformation into human causes her constant pain and the prince marries someone else. Ariel chooses to sacrifice herself rather than kill the prince. 3. Cinderella – In the original story by the brothers Grimm, the two stepsisters cut pieces off their feet in order to fit into the glass slipper. Their blood on the shoe, however, reveals their perfidy. _ **-“BB”-** _ ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/5248 "2024-05-31T18:23:31Z")
**Films where Disney flagrantly changed storylines from historical accounts and/or source materials** 1. _Pocohontas_ - where to begin? How about she never married John Smith. 2. _The Little Mermaid_ - In Hans Christian Anderson’s story, Ariel’s transformation into human causes her constant pain and the prince marries someone else. Ariel chooses to sacrifice herself rather than kill the prince. 3. _Cinderella_ – In the original story by the brothers Grimm, the two stepsisters cut pieces off their feet in order to fit into the glass slipper. Their blood on the shoe, however, reveals their perfidy. 4. _Pinocchio_ - The little puppet-boy is killed by hanging in the original 1883 book. I can see why they didn’t keep _that_ ending! ---
**Author:** ![Skunkdog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@Skunkdog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skunkdog)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/5249 "2024-05-31T22:20:32Z")
**Films where Disney flagrantly changed storylines from historical accounts and/or source materials** 1. _Pocohontas_ - where to begin? How about she never married John Smith. 2. _The Little Mermaid_ - In Hans Christian Anderson’s story, Ariel’s transformation into human causes her constant pain and the prince marries someone else. Ariel chooses to sacrifice herself rather than kill the prince. 3. _Cinderella_ – In the original story by the brothers Grimm, the two stepsisters cut pieces off their feet in order to fit into the glass slipper. Their blood on the shoe, however, reveals their perfidy. 4. _Pinocchio_ - The little puppet-boy is killed by hanging in the original 1883 book. 5. _The Hunchback of Notre Dame_ - Frollo, Quasimodo and Esmeralda all die in the book. Only Frollo dies in the movie. ---
**Author:** ![SpoilerVirgin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@SpoilerVirgin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpoilerVirgin)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2024, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/5250 "2024-05-31T22:39:46Z")
**Films where Disney flagrantly changed storylines from historical accounts and/or source materials** 1. _Pocohontas_ - where to begin? How about she never married John Smith. 2. _The Little Mermaid_ - In Hans Christian Anderson’s story, Ariel’s transformation into human causes her constant pain and the prince marries someone else. Ariel chooses to sacrifice herself rather than kill the prince. 3. _Cinderella_ – In the original story by the brothers Grimm, the two stepsisters cut pieces off their feet in order to fit into the glass slipper. Their blood on the shoe, however, reveals their perfidy. 4. _Pinocchio_ - The little puppet-boy is killed by hanging in the original 1883 book. 5. _The Hunchback of Notre Dame_ - Frollo, Quasimodo and Esmeralda all die in the book 6. _Bambi_ - The original novel is a serious and sometimes grim allegory about the dangers faced by Jews in Europe; in addition to being much lighter, the film added Thumper and Flower and made Bambi an American (white-tailed) rather than European (roe) species ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2024, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/5251 "2024-06-01T00:10:15Z")
**Films where Disney flagrantly changed storylines from historical accounts and/or source materials** 1. _Pocohontas_ - where to begin? How about she never married John Smith. 2. _The Little Mermaid_ - In Hans Christian Anderson’s story, Ariel’s transformation into human causes her constant pain and the prince marries someone else. Ariel chooses to sacrifice herself rather than kill the prince. 3. _Cinderella_ – In the original story by the brothers Grimm, the two stepsisters cut pieces off their feet in order to fit into the glass slipper. Their blood on the shoe, however, reveals their perfidy. 4. _Pinocchio_ - The little puppet-boy is killed by hanging in the original 1883 book. 5. _The Hunchback of Notre Dame_ - Frollo, Quasimodo and Esmeralda all die in the book 6. _Bambi_ - The original novel is a serious and sometimes grim allegory about the dangers faced by Jews in Europe; in addition to being much lighter, the film added Thumper and Flower and made Bambi an American (white-tailed) rather than European (roe) species 7. _Frozen_ - based on _The Snow Queen_ who preys on the weak and freezes people’s emotions. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2024, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/5252 "2024-06-01T01:26:05Z")
**Films where Disney flagrantly changed storylines from historical accounts and/or source materials** 1. _Pocahontas_ - where to begin? How about she never married John Smith. 2. _The Little Mermaid_ - In Hans Christian Anderson’s story, Ariel’s transformation into human causes her constant pain and the prince marries someone else. Ariel chooses to sacrifice herself rather than kill the prince. 3. _Cinderella_ – In the original story by the brothers Grimm, the two stepsisters cut pieces off their feet in order to fit into the glass slipper. Their blood on the shoe, however, reveals their perfidy. 4. _Pinocchio_ - The little puppet-boy is killed by hanging in the original 1883 book. 5. _The Hunchback of Notre Dame_ - Frollo, Quasimodo and Esmeralda all die in the book 6. _Bambi_ - The original novel is a serious and sometimes grim allegory about the dangers faced by Jews in Europe; in addition to being much lighter, the film added Thumper and Flower and made Bambi an American (white-tailed) rather than European (roe) species 7. _Frozen_ - based on _The Snow Queen_ who preys on the weak and freezes people’s emotions. 8. _Tangled_ - based on the Grimm’s Fairy Tale “Rapunzel”. In the film, Rapunzel falls in love with a thief and not a prince. No sex is involved. No blinding is involved. And Rapunzel is kidnapped instead of given in a bargain. ---
**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2024, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/5253 "2024-06-01T04:21:58Z")
**Films where Disney flagrantly changed storylines from historical accounts and/or source materials** 1. _Pocahontas_ - where to begin? How about she never married John Smith. 2. _The Little Mermaid_ - In Hans Christian Anderson’s story, Ariel’s transformation into human causes her constant pain and the prince marries someone else. Ariel chooses to sacrifice herself rather than kill the prince. 3. _Cinderella_ – In the original story by the brothers Grimm, the two stepsisters cut pieces off their feet in order to fit into the glass slipper. Their blood on the shoe, however, reveals their perfidy. 4. _Pinocchio_ - The little puppet-boy is killed by hanging in the original 1883 book. 5. _The Hunchback of Notre Dame_ - Frollo, Quasimodo and Esmeralda all die in the book 6. _Bambi_ - The original novel is a serious and sometimes grim allegory about the dangers faced by Jews in Europe; in addition to being much lighter, the film added Thumper and Flower and made Bambi an American (white-tailed) rather than European (roe) species 7. _Frozen_ - based on _The Snow Queen_ who preys on the weak and freezes people’s emotions. 8. _Tangled_ - based on the Grimm’s Fairy Tale “Rapunzel”. In the film, Rapunzel falls in love with a thief and not a prince. No sex is involved. No blinding is involved. And Rapunzel is kidnapped instead of given in a bargain. 9. _Mulan_ - based on the medieval Ballad of Mulan, in which she’s a warrior for 12 years. Her being a woman isn’t discovered until she reveals herself and goes home to her family, unlike the film where Mulan is in just 1 battle and is sent home when they find she’s a girl. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2024, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/5254 "2024-06-02T02:00:48Z")
**Films where Disney flagrantly changed storylines from historical accounts and/or source materials** 1. _Pocahontas_ - where to begin? How about she never married John Smith. 2. _The Little Mermaid_ - In Hans Christian Anderson’s story, Ariel’s transformation into human causes her constant pain and the prince marries someone else. Ariel chooses to sacrifice herself rather than kill the prince. 3. _Cinderella_ – In the original story by the brothers Grimm, the two stepsisters cut pieces off their feet in order to fit into the glass slipper. Their blood on the shoe, however, reveals their perfidy. 4. _Pinocchio_ - The little puppet-boy is killed by hanging in the original 1883 book. 5. _The Hunchback of Notre Dame_ - Frollo, Quasimodo and Esmeralda all die in the book 6. _Bambi_ - The original novel is a serious and sometimes grim allegory about the dangers faced by Jews in Europe; in addition to being much lighter, the film added Thumper and Flower and made Bambi an American (white-tailed) rather than European (roe) species 7. _Frozen_ - based on _The Snow Queen_ who preys on the weak and freezes people’s emotions. 8. _Tangled_ - based on the Grimm’s Fairy Tale “Rapunzel”. In the film, Rapunzel falls in love with a thief and not a prince. No sex is involved. No blinding is involved. And Rapunzel is kidnapped instead of given in a bargain. 9. _Mulan_ - based on the medieval Ballad of Mulan, in which she’s a warrior for 12 years. Her being a woman isn’t discovered until she reveals herself and goes home to her family, unlike the film where Mulan is in just 1 battle and is sent home when they find she’s a girl. 10. _Snow White_ - in the original Brothers Grimm tale, she tests each of the dwarves’ beds, as in the story of Goldilocks and the Three Bears ---
**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2024, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/5255 "2024-06-02T04:38:50Z")
**Films where Disney flagrantly changed storylines from historical accounts and/or source materials** 1. _Pocahontas_ - where to begin? How about she never married John Smith. 2. _The Little Mermaid_ - In Hans Christian Anderson’s story, Ariel’s transformation into human causes her constant pain and the prince marries someone else. Ariel chooses to sacrifice herself rather than kill the prince. 3. _Cinderella_ – In the original story by the brothers Grimm, the two stepsisters cut pieces off their feet in order to fit into the glass slipper. Their blood on the shoe, however, reveals their perfidy. 4. _Pinocchio_ - The little puppet-boy is killed by hanging in the original 1883 book. 5. _The Hunchback of Notre Dame_ - Frollo, Quasimodo and Esmeralda all die in the book 6. _Bambi_ - The original novel is a serious and sometimes grim allegory about the dangers faced by Jews in Europe; in addition to being much lighter, the film added Thumper and Flower and made Bambi an American (white-tailed) rather than European (roe) species 7. _Frozen_ - based on _The Snow Queen_ who preys on the weak and freezes people’s emotions. 8. _Tangled_ - based on the Grimm’s Fairy Tale “Rapunzel”. In the film, Rapunzel falls in love with a thief and not a prince. No sex is involved. No blinding is involved. And Rapunzel is kidnapped instead of given in a bargain. 9. _Mulan_ - based on the medieval Ballad of Mulan, in which she’s a warrior for 12 years. Her being a woman isn’t discovered until she reveals herself and goes home to her family, unlike the film where Mulan is in just 1 battle and is sent home when they find she’s a girl. 10. _Snow White_ - in the original Brothers Grimm tale, she tests each of the dwarves’ beds, as in the story of Goldilocks and the Three Bears 11. _Hercules_ - where to begin? He never fell in love with Megara (and in some versions of the legend, he kills her). A Greek newspaper called it a distortion of culture for commercial purposes. ---
**Author:** ![Skunkdog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@Skunkdog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skunkdog)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2024, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/5256 "2024-06-02T13:53:28Z")
**Films where Disney flagrantly changed storylines from historical accounts and/or source materials** 1. Pocahontas - where to begin? How about she never married John Smith. 2. The Little Mermaid - In Hans Christian Anderson’s story, Ariel’s transformation into human causes her constant pain and the prince marries someone else. Ariel chooses to sacrifice herself rather than kill the prince. 3. Cinderella – In the original story by the brothers Grimm, the two stepsisters cut pieces off their feet in order to fit into the glass slipper. Their blood on the shoe, however, reveals their perfidy. 4. Pinocchio - The little puppet-boy is killed by hanging in the original 1883 book. 5. The Hunchback of Notre Dame - Frollo, Quasimodo and Esmeralda all die in the book 6. Bambi - The original novel is a serious and sometimes grim allegory about the dangers faced by Jews in Europe; in addition to being much lighter, the film added Thumper and Flower and made Bambi an American (white-tailed) rather than European (roe) species 7. Frozen - based on The Snow Queen who preys on the weak and freezes people’s emotions. 8. Tangled - based on the Grimm’s Fairy Tale “Rapunzel”. In the film, Rapunzel falls in love with a thief and not a prince. No sex is involved. No blinding is involved. And Rapunzel is kidnapped instead of given in a bargain. 9. Mulan - based on the medieval Ballad of Mulan, in which she’s a warrior for 12 years. Her being a woman isn’t discovered until she reveals herself and goes home to her family, unlike the film where Mulan is in just 1 battle and is sent home when they find she’s a girl. 10. Snow White - in the original Brothers Grimm tale, she tests each of the dwarves’ beds, as in the story of Goldilocks and the Three Bears 11. Hercules - where to begin? He never fell in love with Megara (and in some versions of the legend, he kills her). A Greek newspaper called it a distortion of culture for commercial purposes. 12. Sleeping Beauty - Instead of a kiss from a handsome prince, she is raped by a king and delivers his twins, one of which suckles her finger, thus, dislodging the poisonous flax. ---
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**Films where Disney flagrantly changed storylines from historical accounts and/or source materials** 1. Pocahontas - where to begin? How about she never married John Smith. 2. The Little Mermaid - In Hans Christian Anderson’s story, Ariel’s transformation into human causes her constant pain and the prince marries someone else. Ariel chooses to sacrifice herself rather than kill the prince. 3. Cinderella – In the original story by the brothers Grimm, the two stepsisters cut pieces off their feet in order to fit into the glass slipper. Their blood on the shoe, however, reveals their perfidy. 4. Pinocchio - The little puppet-boy is killed by hanging in the original 1883 book. 5. The Hunchback of Notre Dame - Frollo, Quasimodo and Esmeralda all die in the book 6. Bambi - The original novel is a serious and sometimes grim allegory about the dangers faced by Jews in Europe; in addition to being much lighter, the film added Thumper and Flower and made Bambi an American (white-tailed) rather than European (roe) species 7. Frozen - based on The Snow Queen who preys on the weak and freezes people’s emotions. 8. Tangled - based on the Grimm’s Fairy Tale “Rapunzel”. In the film, Rapunzel falls in love with a thief and not a prince. No sex is involved. No blinding is involved. And Rapunzel is kidnapped instead of given in a bargain. 9. Mulan - based on the medieval Ballad of Mulan, in which she’s a warrior for 12 years. Her being a woman isn’t discovered until she reveals herself and goes home to her family, unlike the film where Mulan is in just 1 battle and is sent home when they find she’s a girl. 10. Snow White - in the original Brothers Grimm tale, she tests each of the dwarves’ beds, as in the story of Goldilocks and the Three Bears 11. Hercules - where to begin? He never fell in love with Megara (and in some versions of the legend, he kills her). A Greek newspaper called it a distortion of culture for commercial purposes. 12. Sleeping Beauty - Instead of a kiss from a handsome prince, she is raped by a king and delivers his twins, one of which suckles her finger, thus, dislodging the poisonous flax. 13. Peter Pan: At the end, the Lost Boys stay with Peter, and Hook isn’t eaten by his nemesis the crocodile. [Smee also survives] **The Alleged Hotel: Awful places of lodging that you’ve run across** [Followup posters, feel free to delete the descriptions of prior entries] 1. _Country View Inn, Fancy Gap NC_. I had just driven 8 hours on the Blue Ridge Parkway, it was getting dark, and I was googling for a place to stay. Was kind of in the mood for a mom & pop B&B vs. a corporate chain. Spied the “Country View Inn” on the results, noted how many reviews said how “nice” the proprietors were, and drove up to check it out. First thing that gave me pause was a big TRUMP sign on the side of the breakfast hall. I then noted a shirtless guy mumbling something about the drill he was carrying. I went in, and a yellow lab greeted me. A kid was on the floor playing with live frogs from his frog tank. A sign on the wall said to call a specific number. I should have bailed by then, but kept at it. The number however had NO area code–how many people will know the a.c. of a place they’re visiting on vacation? As I tried to google up the a.c., my phone’s battery suddenly dropped from 20% to 2%. Getting the hint, I quietly left and found a nice Holiday Inn 6 miles to the N. Perusing other reviews revealed that I dodged a big bullet-they have these creepy dolls in all the rooms, for one. ---
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**The Alleged Hotel: Awful places of lodging that you’ve run across** 1. _Country View Inn, Fancy Gap NC_. I had just driven 8 hours on the Blue Ridge Parkway, it was getting dark, and I was googling for a place to stay. Was kind of in the mood for a mom & pop B&B vs. a corporate chain. Spied the “Country View Inn” on the results, noted how many reviews said how “nice” the proprietors were, and drove up to check it out. 2. _Cavalier’s Cove, Lake Winnepesaukee NH_ Advertised as a beautiful vacation getaway. Before becoming condos, this was a small community of lakeside bungalow cabins. Upon arrival, we found the bedrooms infested with beetles and crickets. Also, there was no electricity. Called the office and they said they’d send someone the next day. Left that night, cancelled the check, slept at a hotel, found a nicer campground the next day just a short walk from the lake. ---
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Huh, thought this would be a no-brainer, swore we have had at least one thread on no-tell motels…ok then, throwing it open for ALL memorable places you’ve stayed at, including blissful ones: **Interesting or memorable (if not horrific) places of lodging that you’ve run across**: 1. _Country View Inn, Fancy Gap NC_ . 2. _Cavalier’s Cove, Lake Winnepesaukee NH_ ---
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I know I’ve stayed at some terrible places but I just can’t think of any at the moment. **Interesting or memorable (if not horrific) places of lodging that you’ve run across**: 1. _Country View Inn, Fancy Gap NC_ . 2. _Cavalier’s Cove, Lake Winnepesaukee NH_ 3. Top of the Mountain, NC I can’t find it on the Google now but we went there for a friend’s wedding just about 20 years ago. Fabulous place on top of a mountain. The cabins were rustic, the view was awesome, and it was a great weekend. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093.md?page=262) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093.md?page=264)