# Baker’s Dozen III **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [August 22, 2022, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093 "2022-08-22T15:39:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 359
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**Kings and Queens** 1. **Gustavus Adolphus** (Sweden, reigned 1611-32) 2. **Mary, Queen of Scots** (Scotland, reigned 1542-1567) 3. **Kamehameha I** (Kingdom of Hawaii, reigned 1795-1819) 4. **Zog I** (Albania - reigned 1928-1939, as King in exile to 1961) 5. **Elizabeth II** (Queen of the United Kingdom, 1952-2022) 6. **Queen Millennia** (_Captain Harlock and the Queen of a Thousand Years_) 7. **Queen Nefertiti** (Egypt, 1370 - 1330 BCE) 8. **Queen Liliʻuokalani** (Kingdom of Hawaii, reigned 1891-1893) 9. **Elessar Telcontar** (High King of Gondor and Arnor, _LOTR_ appendices) 10. **Queen Christina** (Sweden, reigned 1632-1654, abdicated) 11. **King Edward I** (England, reigned 1272 – 1307) Known as “Edward Longshanks” and “Hammer of the Scots”, popularized in the movie _Braveheart_. ---
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**Kings and Queens** 1. **Gustavus Adolphus** (Sweden, reigned 1611-32) 2. **Mary, Queen of Scots** (Scotland, reigned 1542-1567) 3. **Kamehameha I** (Kingdom of Hawaii, reigned 1795-1819) 4. **Zog I** (Albania - reigned 1928-1939, as King in exile to 1961) 5. **Elizabeth II** (Queen of the United Kingdom, 1952-2022) 6. **Queen Millennia** (_Captain Harlock and the Queen of a Thousand Years_) 7. **Queen Nefertiti** (Egypt, 1370 - 1330 BCE) 8. **Queen Liliʻuokalani** (Kingdom of Hawaii, reigned 1891-1893) 9. **Elessar Telcontar** (High King of Gondor and Arnor, _LOTR_ appendices) 10. **Queen Christina** (Sweden, reigned 1632-1654, abdicated) 11. **King Edward I** (England, reigned 1272 – 1307) 12. **William I** (England, reined 1066 - 1087) ---
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**Kings and Queens** 1. **Gustavus Adolphus** (Sweden, reigned 1611-32) 2. **Mary, Queen of Scots** (Scotland, reigned 1542-1567) 3. **Kamehameha I** (Kingdom of Hawaii, reigned 1795-1819) 4. **Zog I** (Albania - reigned 1928-1939, as King in exile to 1961) 5. **Elizabeth II** (Queen of the United Kingdom, 1952-2022) 6. **Queen Millennia** (_Captain Harlock and the Queen of a Thousand Years_) 7. **Queen Nefertiti** (Egypt, 1370 - 1330 BCE) 8. **Queen Liliʻuokalani** (Kingdom of Hawaii, reigned 1891-1893) 9. **Elessar Telcontar** (High King of Gondor and Arnor, _LOTR_ appendices) 10. **Queen Christina** (Sweden, reigned 1632-1654, abdicated) 11. **King Edward I** (England, reigned 1272 – 1307) 12. **William I** (England, reined 1066 - 1087) 13. **John** (England, reigned 1199 – 1216) Memorably voiced by Peter Ustinov in the animated _Robin Hood_ Next **Royalty or nobility known by a place name and/or epithet (only one needed for the reply, but give both if you like)** 1. Bertrada of Laon (AKA Bertha Broadfoot) Queen of the Franks, mother of Charlemagne I’m giving both her place name and her epithet; what a way to be remembered! ---
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**Royalty or nobility known by a place name and/or epithet (only one needed for the reply, but give both if you like)** 1. Bertrada of Laon (AKA Bertha Broadfoot) 2. John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster From Wiki: “His birthplace, Ghent in Flanders, then known in English as _Gaunt_, was the origin of his name.” ---
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**Royalty or nobility known by a place name and/or epithet (only one needed for the reply, but give both if you like)** 1. Bertrada of Laon (AKA Bertha Broadfoot) 2. John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster 3. William the Conqueror (AKA William the Bastard) ---
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**Royalty or nobility known by a place name and/or epithet (only one needed for the reply, but give both if you like)** 1. Bertrada of Laon (AKA Bertha Broadfoot) 2. John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster 3. William the Conqueror (AKA William the Bastard) 4. Ivan the Terrible, Grand Prince of Moscow and all Russia ---
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**Royalty or nobility known by a place name and/or epithet (only one needed for the reply, but give both if you like)** 1. Bertrada of Laon (AKA Bertha Broadfoot) 2. John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster 3. William the Conqueror (AKA William the Bastard) 4. Ivan the Terrible, Grand Prince of Moscow and all Russia 5. Basil II, Porphyrogenitus (born to the purple), The Bulgar Slayer ---
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**Royalty or nobility known by a place name and/or epithet (only one needed for the reply, but give both if you like)** 1. Bertrada of Laon (AKA Bertha Broadfoot) 2. John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster 3. William the Conqueror (AKA William the Bastard) 4. Ivan the Terrible, Grand Prince of Moscow and all Russia 5. Basil II, Porphyrogenitus (born to the purple), The Bulgar Slayer 6. Vlad the Impaler ---
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**Royalty or nobility known by a place name and/or epithet (only one needed for the reply, but give both if you like)** 1. Bertrada of Laon (AKA Bertha Broadfoot) 2. John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster 3. William the Conqueror (AKA William the Bastard) 4. Ivan the Terrible, Grand Prince of Moscow and all Russia 5. Basil II, Porphyrogenitus (born to the purple), The Bulgar Slayer 6. Vlad the Impaler 7. Alexander III of Macedon (aka Alexander the Great) ---
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**Royalty or nobility known by a place name and/or epithet (only one needed for the reply, but give both if you like)** 1. Bertrada of Laon (AKA Bertha Broadfoot) 2. John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster 3. William the Conqueror (AKA William the Bastard) 4. Ivan the Terrible, Grand Prince of Moscow and all Russia 5. Basil II, Porphyrogenitus (born to the purple), The Bulgar Slayer 6. Vlad the Impaler 7. Alexander III of Macedon (aka Alexander the Great) 8. False Dmitry, Tsar of Russia Claimed to be the son of Ivan IV, he is the best-known imposter to rule a major power. He lasted 11 months on the throne before he was found out and murdered by a mob. ---
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**Royalty or nobility known by a place name and/or epithet (only one needed for the reply, but give both if you like)** 1. Bertrada of Laon (AKA Bertha Broadfoot) 2. John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster 3. William the Conqueror (AKA William the Bastard) 4. Ivan the Terrible, Grand Prince of Moscow and all Russia 5. Basil II, Porphyrogenitus (born to the purple), The Bulgar Slayer 6. Vlad the Impaler 7. Alexander III of Macedon (aka Alexander the Great) 8. False Dmitry, Tsar of Russia 9. Frederick the Great of Prussia My favorite non-British European king. The model of the enlightened despot - he even discussed music with J.S. Bach! ---
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**Royalty or nobility known by a place name and/or epithet (only one needed for the reply, but give both if you like)** 1. Bertrada of Laon (AKA Bertha Broadfoot) 2. John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster 3. William the Conqueror (AKA William the Bastard) 4. Ivan the Terrible, Grand Prince of Moscow and all Russia 5. Basil II, Porphyrogenitus (born to the purple), The Bulgar Slayer 6. Vlad the Impaler 7. Alexander III of Macedon (aka Alexander the Great) 8. False Dmitry, Tsar of Russia 9. Frederick the Great of Prussia 10. The Sun King (Louis XIV of France) _ **-“BB”-** _ ---
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**Royalty or nobility known by a place name and/or epithet (only one needed for the reply, but give both if you like)** 1. Bertrada of Laon (AKA Bertha Broadfoot) 2. John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster 3. William the Conqueror (AKA William the Bastard) 4. Ivan the Terrible, Grand Prince of Moscow and all Russia 5. Basil II, Porphyrogenitus (born to the purple), The Bulgar Slayer 6. Vlad the Impaler, Voivode of Wallachia 7. Alexander III of Macedon (aka Alexander the Great) 8. False Dmitry, Tsar of Russia 9. Frederick the Great of Prussia 10. The Sun King (Louis XIV of France) 11. Silly Billy (William IV of Great Britain) ---
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**Royalty or nobility known by a place name and/or epithet (only one needed for the reply, but give both if you like)** 1. Bertrada of Laon (AKA Bertha Broadfoot) 2. John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster 3. William the Conqueror (AKA William the Bastard) 4. Ivan the Terrible, Grand Prince of Moscow and all Russia 5. Basil II, Porphyrogenitus (born to the purple), The Bulgar Slayer 6. Vlad the Impaler, Voivode of Wallachia 7. Alexander III of Macedon (aka Alexander the Great) 8. False Dmitry, Tsar of Russia 9. Frederick the Great of Prussia 10. The Sun King (Louis XIV of France) 11. Silly Billy (William IV of Great Britain) 12. [Wilfred the Hairy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilfred_the_Hairy) Medieval Count of Urgell, Barcelona and the Catalan counties ---
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**Royalty or nobility known by a place name and/or epithet (only one needed for the reply, but give both if you like)** 1. Bertrada of Laon (AKA Bertha Broadfoot) 2. John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster 3. William the Conqueror (AKA William the Bastard) 4. Ivan the Terrible, Grand Prince of Moscow and all Russia 5. Basil II, Porphyrogenitus (born to the purple), The Bulgar Slayer 6. Vlad the Impaler, Voivode of Wallachia 7. Alexander III of Macedon (aka Alexander the Great) 8. False Dmitry, Tsar of Russia 9. Frederick the Great of Prussia 10. The Sun King (Louis XIV of France) 11. Silly Billy (William IV of Great Britain) 12. [Wilfred the Hairy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilfred_the_Hairy) 13. [Charles the Fat](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_the_Fat) **Sun Tzu Quotes** 1. “The greatest victory is that which requires no battle.” ---
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**Sun Tzu Quotes** 1. “The greatest victory is that which requires no battle.” 2. “There is no instance of a nation benefitting from prolonged warfare.” ---
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**Sun Tzu Quotes** 1. “The greatest victory is that which requires no battle.” 2. “There is no instance of a nation benefitting from prolonged warfare.” 3. “A good leader is benevolent and not concerned with fame.” ---
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**Sun Tzu Quotes** 1. “The greatest victory is that which requires no battle.” 2. “There is no instance of a nation benefitting from prolonged warfare.” 3. “A good leader is benevolent and not concerned with fame.” 4. “To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.” ---
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**Sun Tzu Quotes** 1. “The greatest victory is that which requires no battle.” 2. “There is no instance of a nation benefitting from prolonged warfare.” 3. “A good leader is benevolent and not concerned with fame.” 4. “To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.” 5. “Anger can revert to joy, wrath can revert to delight, but a nation destroyed cannot be restored to existence, and the dead cannot be restored to life.” ---
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**Sun Tzu Quotes** 1. “The greatest victory is that which requires no battle.” 2. “There is no instance of a nation benefitting from prolonged warfare.” 3. “A good leader is benevolent and not concerned with fame.” 4. “To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.” 5. “Anger can revert to joy, wrath can revert to delight, but a nation destroyed cannot be restored to existence, and the dead cannot be restored to life.” 6. “Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093.md?page=358) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093.md?page=360)