# Baker’s Dozen III **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [August 22, 2022, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093 "2022-08-22T15:39:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 360
**Author:** ![Bicycle\_Bill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bicycle_bill/32/6208_2.png) [@Bicycle\_Bill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bicycle_Bill)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2025, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/7181 "2025-04-03T18:33:16Z")
**Sun Tzu Quotes** 1. “The greatest victory is that which requires no battle.” 2. “There is no instance of a nation benefitting from prolonged warfare.” 3. “A good leader is benevolent and not concerned with fame.” 4. “To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.” 5. “Anger can revert to joy, wrath can revert to delight, but a nation destroyed cannot be restored to existence, and the dead cannot be restored to life.” 6. “Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win” 7. “A leader leads by example not by force.” _ **-“BB”-** _ ---
**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2025, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/7182 "2025-04-03T18:50:13Z")
**Sun Tzu Quotes** 1. “The greatest victory is that which requires no battle.” 2. “There is no instance of a nation benefitting from prolonged warfare.” 3. “A good leader is benevolent and not concerned with fame.” 4. “To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.” 5. “Anger can revert to joy, wrath can revert to delight, but a nation destroyed cannot be restored to existence, and the dead cannot be restored to life.” 6. “Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win” 7. “A leader leads by example not by force.” 8. “Be as swift as wind, as gentle as forest, as fierce as fire, as unshakable as mountain” ---
**Author:** ![Skunkdog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@Skunkdog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skunkdog)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2025, 9:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/7183 "2025-04-04T09:47:55Z")
**Sun Tzu Quotes** 1. “The greatest victory is that which requires no battle.” 2. “There is no instance of a nation benefitting from prolonged warfare.” 3. “A good leader is benevolent and not concerned with fame.” 4. “To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.” 5. “Anger can revert to joy, wrath can revert to delight, but a nation destroyed cannot be restored to existence, and the dead cannot be restored to life.” 6. “Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win” 7. “A leader leads by example not by force.” 8. “Be as swift as wind, as gentle as forest, as fierce as fire, as unshakable as mountain” 9. “Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak.” ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2025, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/7184 "2025-04-04T16:03:47Z")
**Sun Tzu Quotes** 1. “The greatest victory is that which requires no battle.” 2. “There is no instance of a nation benefitting from prolonged warfare.” 3. “A good leader is benevolent and not concerned with fame.” 4. “To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.” 5. “Anger can revert to joy, wrath can revert to delight, but a nation destroyed cannot be restored to existence, and the dead cannot be restored to life.” 6. “Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win” 7. “A leader leads by example not by force.” 8. “Be as swift as wind, as gentle as forest, as fierce as fire, as unshakable as mountain” 9. “Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak.” 10. “To win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the acme of skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the acme of skill.” ---
**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/7185 "2025-04-05T23:23:14Z")
**Sun Tzu Quotes** 1. “The greatest victory is that which requires no battle.” 2. “There is no instance of a nation benefitting from prolonged warfare.” 3. “A good leader is benevolent and not concerned with fame.” 4. “To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.” 5. “Anger can revert to joy, wrath can revert to delight, but a nation destroyed cannot be restored to existence, and the dead cannot be restored to life.” 6. “Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win” 7. “A leader leads by example not by force.” 8. “Be as swift as wind, as gentle as forest, as fierce as fire, as unshakable as mountain” 9. “Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak.” 10. “To win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the acme of skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the acme of skill.” 11. “Management of many is the same as management of few. It is a matter of organization” ---
**Author:** ![Jegpeg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jegpeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jegpeg)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2025, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/7186 "2025-04-06T00:30:25Z")
**A definition of the word set.** 1. To establish as the highest level or best performance i.e. _set a record for the half mile_ 2. the place where a film or play is performed, and the pictures, furniture, etc. that are used: ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2025, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/7187 "2025-04-06T00:37:12Z")
**Sun Tzu Quotes** 1. “The greatest victory is that which requires no battle.” 2. “There is no instance of a nation benefitting from prolonged warfare.” 3. “A good leader is benevolent and not concerned with fame.” 4. “To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.” 5. “Anger can revert to joy, wrath can revert to delight, but a nation destroyed cannot be restored to existence, and the dead cannot be restored to life.” 6. “Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win” 7. “A leader leads by example not by force.” 8. “Be as swift as wind, as gentle as forest, as fierce as fire, as unshakable as mountain” 9. “Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak.” 10. “To win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the acme of skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the acme of skill.” 11. “Management of many is the same as management of few. It is a matter of organization” 12. “In the midst of chaos, there is also opportunity.” ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2025, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/7188 "2025-04-06T03:14:31Z")
**Sun Tzu Quotes** 1. “The greatest victory is that which requires no battle.” 2. “There is no instance of a nation benefitting from prolonged warfare.” 3. “A good leader is benevolent and not concerned with fame.” 4. “To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.” 5. “Anger can revert to joy, wrath can revert to delight, but a nation destroyed cannot be restored to existence, and the dead cannot be restored to life.” 6. “Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win” 7. “A leader leads by example not by force.” 8. “Be as swift as wind, as gentle as forest, as fierce as fire, as unshakable as mountain” 9. “Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak.” 10. “To win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the acme of skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the acme of skill.” 11. “Management of many is the same as management of few. It is a matter of organization” 12. “In the midst of chaos, there is also opportunity.” 13. “All warfare is based on deception.” Next up: **The quotable Winston Churchill** 1. “Democracy is the worst form of government except for all the others that have been tried from time to time.” ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2025, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/7189 "2025-04-06T03:45:05Z")
**The quotable Winston Churchill** 1. “Democracy is the worst form of government except for all the others that have been tried from time to time.” 2. “You have enemies? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.” ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2025, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/7190 "2025-04-06T07:01:25Z")
**The quotable Winston Churchill** 1. “Democracy is the worst form of government except for all the others that have been tried from time to time.” 2. “You have enemies? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.” 3. “And you, madam, are ugly. The difference between us is that in the morning I will be sober” ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2025, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/7191 "2025-04-06T07:54:40Z")
**The quotable Winston Churchill** 1. “Democracy is the worst form of government except for all the others that have been tried from time to time.” 2. “You have enemies? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.” 3. “And you, madam, are ugly. The difference between us is that in the morning I will be sober” 4. “When I warned them [France] that Britain would fight on alone whatever they did, their generals told their Prime Minister and his divided Cabinet, ‘In three weeks England will have her neck wrung like a chicken.’ Some chicken; some neck.” ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2025, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/7192 "2025-04-06T11:18:52Z")
**The quotable Winston Churchill** 1. “Democracy is the worst form of government except for all the others that have been tried from time to time.” 2. “You have enemies? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.” 3. “And you, madam, are ugly. The difference between us is that in the morning I will be sober” 4. “When I warned them [France] that Britain would fight on alone whatever they did, their generals told their Prime Minister and his divided Cabinet, ‘In three weeks England will have her neck wrung like a chicken.’ Some chicken; some neck.” 5. “The farther back you can look, the farther forward you are likely to see.” ---
**Author:** ![dirtball](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dirtball/32/18772_2.png) [@dirtball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dirtball)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2025, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/7193 "2025-04-06T12:16:02Z")
**The quotable Winston Churchill** 1. “Democracy is the worst form of government except for all the others that have been tried from time to time.” 2. “You have enemies? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.” 3. “And you, madam, are ugly. The difference between us is that in the morning I will be sober” 4. “When I warned them [France] that Britain would fight on alone whatever they did, their generals told their Prime Minister and his divided Cabinet, ‘In three weeks England will have her neck wrung like a chicken.’ Some chicken; some neck.” 5. “The farther back you can look, the farther forward you are likely to see.” 6. “The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is.” Sort of like the Philip K. Dick quote “Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn’t go away.” ---
**Author:** ![SpoilerVirgin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@SpoilerVirgin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpoilerVirgin)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2025, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/7194 "2025-04-06T21:51:56Z")
**The quotable Winston Churchill** 1. “Democracy is the worst form of government except for all the others that have been tried from time to time.” 2. “You have enemies? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.” 3. “And you, madam, are ugly. The difference between us is that in the morning I will be sober” 4. “When I warned them [France] that Britain would fight on alone whatever they did, their generals told their Prime Minister and his divided Cabinet, ‘In three weeks England will have her neck wrung like a chicken.’ Some chicken; some neck.” 5. “The farther back you can look, the farther forward you are likely to see.” 6. “The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is.” 7. “Go out into the sunlight and be happy with what you see.” ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2025, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/7195 "2025-04-06T23:53:19Z")
**The quotable Winston Churchill** 1. “Democracy is the worst form of government except for all the others that have been tried from time to time.” 2. “You have enemies? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.” 3. “And you, madam, are ugly. The difference between us is that in the morning I will be sober” 4. “When I warned them [France] that Britain would fight on alone whatever they did, their generals told their Prime Minister and his divided Cabinet, ‘In three weeks England will have her neck wrung like a chicken.’ Some chicken; some neck.” 5. “The farther back you can look, the farther forward you are likely to see.” 6. “The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is.” 7. “Go out into the sunlight and be happy with what you see.” 8. We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/7196 "2025-04-07T02:54:32Z")
**The quotable Winston Churchill** 1. “Democracy is the worst form of government except for all the others that have been tried from time to time.” 2. “You have enemies? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.” 3. “And you, madam, are ugly. The difference between us is that in the morning I will be sober” 4. “When I warned them [France] that Britain would fight on alone whatever they did, their generals told their Prime Minister and his divided Cabinet, ‘In three weeks England will have her neck wrung like a chicken.’ Some chicken; some neck.” 5. “The farther back you can look, the farther forward you are likely to see.” 6. “The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is.” 7. “Go out into the sunlight and be happy with what you see.” 8. “We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender.” 9. "In war, resolution; in defeat, defiance; in victory, magnanimity; in peace, good will.” ---
**Author:** ![Bayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bayaker/32/3454_2.png) [@Bayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bayaker)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 10:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/7197 "2025-04-07T10:15:30Z")
**The quotable Winston Churchill** 1. “Democracy is the worst form of government except for all the others that have been tried from time to time.” 2. “You have enemies? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.” 3. “And you, madam, are ugly. The difference between us is that in the morning I will be sober” 4. “When I warned them [France] that Britain would fight on alone whatever they did, their generals told their Prime Minister and his divided Cabinet, ‘In three weeks England will have her neck wrung like a chicken.’ Some chicken; some neck.” 5. “The farther back you can look, the farther forward you are likely to see.” 6. “The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is.” 7. “Go out into the sunlight and be happy with what you see.” 8. “We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender.” 9. "In war, resolution; in defeat, defiance; in victory, magnanimity; in peace, good will.” 10. “The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.” ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/7198 "2025-04-07T13:37:00Z")
**The quotable Winston Churchill** 1. “Democracy is the worst form of government except for all the others that have been tried from time to time.” 2. “You have enemies? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.” 3. “And you, madam, are ugly. The difference between us is that in the morning I will be sober” 4. “When I warned them [France] that Britain would fight on alone whatever they did, their generals told their Prime Minister and his divided Cabinet, ‘In three weeks England will have her neck wrung like a chicken.’ Some chicken; some neck.” 5. “The farther back you can look, the farther forward you are likely to see.” 6. “The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is.” 7. “Go out into the sunlight and be happy with what you see.” 8. “We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender.” 9. "In war, resolution; in defeat, defiance; in victory, magnanimity; in peace, good will.” 10. “The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.” 11. “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” ---
**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/7199 "2025-04-07T21:06:57Z")
**The quotable Winston Churchill** 1. “Democracy is the worst form of government except for all the others that have been tried from time to time.” 2. “You have enemies? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.” 3. “And you, madam, are ugly. The difference between us is that in the morning I will be sober” 4. “When I warned them [France] that Britain would fight on alone whatever they did, their generals told their Prime Minister and his divided Cabinet, ‘In three weeks England will have her neck wrung like a chicken.’ Some chicken; some neck.” 5. “The farther back you can look, the farther forward you are likely to see.” 6. “The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is.” 7. “Go out into the sunlight and be happy with what you see.” 8. “We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender.” 9. "In war, resolution; in defeat, defiance; in victory, magnanimity; in peace, good will.” 10. “The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.” 11. “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” 12. “Never in the field of human conflict has so much been owed by so many to so few” ---
**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/7200 "2025-04-08T13:13:20Z")
**The quotable Winston Churchill** 1. “Democracy is the worst form of government except for all the others that have been tried from time to time.” 2. “You have enemies? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.” 3. “And you, madam, are ugly. The difference between us is that in the morning I will be sober” 4. “When I warned them [France] that Britain would fight on alone whatever they did, their generals told their Prime Minister and his divided Cabinet, ‘In three weeks England will have her neck wrung like a chicken.’ Some chicken; some neck.” 5. “The farther back you can look, the farther forward you are likely to see.” 6. “The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is.” 7. “Go out into the sunlight and be happy with what you see.” 8. “We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender.” 9. "In war, resolution; in defeat, defiance; in victory, magnanimity; in peace, good will.” 10. “The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.” 11. “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” 12. “Never in the field of human conflict has so much been owed by so many to so few” 13. “If you’re not a liberal at 20 you have no heart. If you’re not a conservative at 40 you have no brain.” pass [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093.md?page=359) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093.md?page=361)