# Baker’s Dozen III **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [August 22, 2022, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093 "2022-08-22T15:39:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 439
**Author:** ![Jegpeg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jegpeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jegpeg)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/8761 "2025-11-13T20:33:26Z")
**Sports teams that have been historically unsuccessful** 1. Charlotte Hornets (NBA): The only active team never to win even a division title. They also have never advanced past the second round of the playoffs. 2. Chicago Cubs (MLB): Called the Loveable Losers due to their World Series drought from 1908 to 2016. 3. New York Jets (NFL): Have not made the playoffs since 2011, when they lost the AFC Championship to the Pittsburgh Steelers. They have consistently been one of the worst run franchises in NFL history. 4. Los Angeles Clippers (NBA): Born in 1970, they have never been to the NBA finals 5. Washington Generals: Haven’t won a game since 1971. ---
**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2025, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/8762 "2025-11-14T02:23:47Z")
**Sports teams that have been historically unsuccessful** 1. Charlotte Hornets (NBA): The only active team never to win even a division title. They also have never advanced past the second round of the playoffs. 2. Chicago Cubs (MLB): Called the Loveable Losers due to their World Series drought from 1908 to 2016. 3. New York Jets (NFL): Have not made the playoffs since 2011, when they lost the AFC Championship to the Pittsburgh Steelers. They have consistently been one of the worst run franchises in NFL history. 4. Los Angeles Clippers (NBA): Born in 1970, they have never been to the NBA finals 5. Washington Generals: Haven’t won a game since 1971. 6. Buffalo Bills (NFL): Have never won a Super Bowl, in spite of making it to the finals 4 times in a row in the 1990s. They haven’t been in the Super Bowl since 1993, 32 years ago. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2025, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/8763 "2025-11-14T02:52:10Z")
**Sports teams that have been historically unsuccessful** 1. Charlotte Hornets (NBA): The only active team never to win even a division title. They also have never advanced past the second round of the playoffs. 2. Chicago Cubs (MLB): Called the Loveable Losers due to their World Series drought from 1908 to 2016. 3. New York Jets (NFL): Have not made the playoffs since 2011, when they lost the AFC Championship to the Pittsburgh Steelers. They have consistently been one of the worst run franchises in NFL history. 4. Los Angeles Clippers (NBA): Born in 1970, they have never been to the NBA finals 5. Washington Generals: Haven’t won a game since 1971. 6. Buffalo Bills (NFL): Have never won a Super Bowl, in spite of making it to the finals 4 times in a row in the 1990s. They haven’t been in the Super Bowl since 1993, 32 years ago. 7. Cleveland Browns (NFL): Have never made it to the Super Bowl, despite the fact that they’ve won four pre-merger NFL championships. Their last division win was in 1989 in the AFC Central, which doesn’t exist anymore. They were the second team to go 0-16, and it took them until 2020 to win their first playoff game since their 1999 reactivation. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2025, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/8764 "2025-11-14T19:50:40Z")
**Sports teams that have been historically unsuccessful** 1. Charlotte Hornets (NBA): The only active team never to win even a division title. They also have never advanced past the second round of the playoffs. 2. Chicago Cubs (MLB): Called the Loveable Losers due to their World Series drought from 1908 to 2016. 3. New York Jets (NFL): Have not made the playoffs since 2011, when they lost the AFC Championship to the Pittsburgh Steelers. They have consistently been one of the worst run franchises in NFL history. 4. Los Angeles Clippers (NBA): Born in 1970, they have never been to the NBA finals 5. Washington Generals: Haven’t won a game since 1971. 6. Buffalo Bills (NFL): Have never won a Super Bowl, in spite of making it to the finals 4 times in a row in the 1990s. They haven’t been in the Super Bowl since 1993, 32 years ago. 7. Cleveland Browns (NFL): Have never made it to the Super Bowl, despite the fact that they’ve won four pre-merger NFL championships. Their last division win was in 1989 in the AFC Central, which doesn’t exist anymore. They were the second team to go 0-16, and it took them until 2020 to win their first playoff game since their 1999 reactivation. 8. Sacramento Kings: The team with the most losses in the NBA. ---
**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2025, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/8765 "2025-11-14T22:20:34Z")
**Sports teams that have been historically unsuccessful** 1. Charlotte Hornets (NBA): The only active team never to win even a division title. They also have never advanced past the second round of the playoffs. 2. Chicago Cubs (MLB): Called the Loveable Losers due to their World Series drought from 1908 to 2016. 3. New York Jets (NFL): Have not made the playoffs since 2011, when they lost the AFC Championship to the Pittsburgh Steelers. They have consistently been one of the worst run franchises in NFL history. 4. Los Angeles Clippers (NBA): Born in 1970, they have never been to the NBA finals 5. Washington Generals: Haven’t won a game since 1971. 6. Buffalo Bills (NFL): Have never won a Super Bowl, in spite of making it to the finals 4 times in a row in the 1990s. They haven’t been in the Super Bowl since 1993, 32 years ago. 7. Cleveland Browns (NFL): Have never made it to the Super Bowl, despite the fact that they’ve won four pre-merger NFL championships. Their last division win was in 1989 in the AFC Central, which doesn’t exist anymore. They were the second team to go 0-16, and it took them until 2020 to win their first playoff game since their 1999 reactivation. 8. Sacramento Kings: The team with the most losses in the NBA. 9. Washington (DC) Wizards/Bullets: Since making two consecutive NBA Finals (1 win, 1 loss) the team has had just 17 post-season appearances, with just 5 wins, in 45 years. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2025, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/8766 "2025-11-15T02:13:40Z")
**Sports teams that have been historically unsuccessful** 1. Charlotte Hornets (NBA): The only active team never to win even a division title. They also have never advanced past the second round of the playoffs. 2. Chicago Cubs (MLB): Called the Loveable Losers due to their World Series drought from 1908 to 2016. 3. New York Jets (NFL): Have not made the playoffs since 2011, when they lost the AFC Championship to the Pittsburgh Steelers. They have consistently been one of the worst run franchises in NFL history. 4. Los Angeles Clippers (NBA): Born in 1970, they have never been to the NBA finals 5. Washington Generals: Haven’t won a game since 1971. 6. Buffalo Bills (NFL): Have never won a Super Bowl, in spite of making it to the finals 4 times in a row in the 1990s. They haven’t been in the Super Bowl since 1993, 32 years ago. 7. Cleveland Browns (NFL): Have never made it to the Super Bowl, despite the fact that they’ve won four pre-merger NFL championships. Their last division win was in 1989 in the AFC Central, which doesn’t exist anymore. They were the second team to go 0-16, and it took them until 2020 to win their first playoff game since their 1999 reactivation. 8. Sacramento Kings: The team with the most losses in the NBA. 9. Washington (DC) Wizards/Bullets: Since making two consecutive NBA Finals (1 win, 1 loss) the team has had just 17 post-season appearances, with just 5 wins, in 45 years. 10. Seattle Mariners (MLB): The only active team never to make it to the World Series. They only this year made it to their first ALCS since 2001. ---
**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2025, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/8767 "2025-11-16T00:05:04Z")
1. Charlotte Hornets (NBA): The only active team never to win even a division title. They also have never advanced past the second round of the playoffs. 2. Chicago Cubs (MLB): Called the Loveable Losers due to their World Series drought from 1908 to 2016. 3. New York Jets (NFL): Have not made the playoffs since 2011, when they lost the AFC Championship to the Pittsburgh Steelers. They have consistently been one of the worst run franchises in NFL history. 4. Los Angeles Clippers (NBA): Born in 1970, they have never been to the NBA finals 5. Washington Generals: Haven’t won a game since 1971. 6. Buffalo Bills (NFL): Have never won a Super Bowl, in spite of making it to the finals 4 times in a row in the 1990s. They haven’t been in the Super Bowl since 1993, 32 years ago. 7. Cleveland Browns (NFL): Have never made it to the Super Bowl, despite the fact that they’ve won four pre-merger NFL championships. Their last division win was in 1989 in the AFC Central, which doesn’t exist anymore. They were the second team to go 0-16, and it took them until 2020 to win their first playoff game since their 1999 reactivation. 8. Sacramento Kings: The team with the most losses in the NBA. 9. Washington (DC) Wizards/Bullets: Since making two consecutive NBA Finals (1 win, 1 loss) the team has had just 17 post-season appearances, with just 5 wins, in 45 years. 10. Seattle Mariners (MLB): The only active team never to make it to the World Series. They only this year made it to their first ALCS since 2001. 11. Detroit Lions (NFL): Have never been to the Super Bowl and, since their heyday in the ‘50s, have experienced long periods without postseason appearances. The team has been successful over the last few seasons, but competition in the NFC North is tougher this year, so there’s no guarantee of making the playoffs. ---
**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2025, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/8768 "2025-11-16T18:21:57Z")
**Sports teams that have been historically unsuccessful** 1. Charlotte Hornets (NBA): The only active team never to win even a division title. They also have never advanced past the second round of the playoffs. 2. Chicago Cubs (MLB): Called the Loveable Losers due to their World Series drought from 1908 to 2016. 3. New York Jets (NFL): Have not made the playoffs since 2011, when they lost the AFC Championship to the Pittsburgh Steelers. They have consistently been one of the worst run franchises in NFL history. 4. Los Angeles Clippers (NBA): Born in 1970, they have never been to the NBA finals 5. Washington Generals: Haven’t won a game since 1971. 6. Buffalo Bills (NFL): Have never won a Super Bowl, in spite of making it to the finals 4 times in a row in the 1990s. They haven’t been in the Super Bowl since 1993, 32 years ago. 7. Cleveland Browns (NFL): Have never made it to the Super Bowl, despite the fact that they’ve won four pre-merger NFL championships. Their last division win was in 1989 in the AFC Central, which doesn’t exist anymore. They were the second team to go 0-16, and it took them until 2020 to win their first playoff game since their 1999 reactivation. 8. Sacramento Kings: The team with the most losses in the NBA. 9. Washington (DC) Wizards/Bullets: Since making two consecutive NBA Finals (1 win, 1 loss) the team has had just 17 post-season appearances, with just 5 wins, in 45 years. 10. Seattle Mariners (MLB): The only active team never to make it to the World Series. They only this year made it to their first ALCS since 2001. 11. Detroit Lions (NFL): Have never been to the Super Bowl and, since their heyday in the ‘50s, have experienced long periods without postseason appearances. The team has been successful over the last few seasons, but competition in the NFC North is tougher this year, so there’s no guarantee of making the playoffs. 12. Colorado Rockies (MLB): At the end of 2025, the Rockies have an all-time record of 2,364–2,818. This .456 winning percentage is the worst among active MLB franchise, and they have never won a championship. In the 2007 World Series, they were swept in 4 games. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2025, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/8769 "2025-11-16T18:37:30Z")
**Sports teams that have been historically unsuccessful** 1. Charlotte Hornets (NBA): The only active team never to win even a division title. They also have never advanced past the second round of the playoffs. 2. Chicago Cubs (MLB): Called the Loveable Losers due to their World Series drought from 1908 to 2016. 3. New York Jets (NFL): Have not made the playoffs since 2011, when they lost the AFC Championship to the Pittsburgh Steelers. They have consistently been one of the worst run franchises in NFL history. 4. Los Angeles Clippers (NBA): Born in 1970, they have never been to the NBA finals 5. Washington Generals: Haven’t won a game since 1971. 6. Buffalo Bills (NFL): Have never won a Super Bowl, in spite of making it to the finals 4 times in a row in the 1990s. They haven’t been in the Super Bowl since 1993, 32 years ago. 7. Cleveland Browns (NFL): Have never made it to the Super Bowl, despite the fact that they’ve won four pre-merger NFL championships. Their last division win was in 1989 in the AFC Central, which doesn’t exist anymore. They were the second team to go 0-16, and it took them until 2020 to win their first playoff game since their 1999 reactivation. 8. Sacramento Kings: The team with the most losses in the NBA. 9. Washington (DC) Wizards/Bullets: Since making two consecutive NBA Finals (1 win, 1 loss) the team has had just 17 post-season appearances, with just 5 wins, in 45 years. 10. Seattle Mariners (MLB): The only active team never to make it to the World Series. They only this year made it to their first ALCS since 2001. 11. Detroit Lions (NFL): Have never been to the Super Bowl and, since their heyday in the ‘50s, have experienced long periods without postseason appearances. The team has been successful over the last few seasons, but competition in the NFC North is tougher this year, so there’s no guarantee of making the playoffs. 12. Colorado Rockies (MLB): At the end of 2025, the Rockies have an all-time record of 2,364–2,818. This .456 winning percentage is the worst among active MLB franchise, and they have never won a championship. In the 2007 World Series, they were swept in 4 games. 13. Arizona Coyotes: Worst record in the NHL over the past 25 years. They are so bad they don’t exist anymore. Next up: In honor of the late, great US 1-cent piece: **People, places, things, and phrases containing the word ‘penny’** 1. Penny Lane ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2025, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/8770 "2025-11-16T18:39:38Z")
[quote=“Railer13, post:8769, topic:970093”] **People, places, things, and phrases containing the word ‘penny’** 1. Penny Lane 2. Penny Dreadful ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2025, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/8771 "2025-11-16T18:56:07Z")
**People, places, things, and phrases containing the word ‘penny’** 1. Penny Lane 2. Penny Dreadful 3. Penny from _Inspector Gadget_ ---
**Author:** ![dirtball](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dirtball/32/18772_2.png) [@dirtball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dirtball)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2025, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/8772 "2025-11-16T19:27:12Z")
**People, places, things, and phrases containing the word ‘penny’** 1. Penny Lane 2. Penny Dreadful 3. Penny from _Inspector Gadget_ 4. knockknockknock “Penny…” knockknockknock “Penny…” knockknockknock “Penny…” ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2025, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/8773 "2025-11-16T20:18:43Z")
**People, places, things, and phrases containing the word ‘penny’** 1. Penny Lane 2. Penny Dreadful 3. Penny from _Inspector Gadget_ 4. knockknockknock “Penny…” knockknockknock “Penny…” knockknockknock “Penny…” 5. Pennywise from Stephen King’s _IT_ ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/8774 "2025-11-17T04:54:53Z")
**People, places, things, and phrases containing the word ‘penny’** 1. Penny Lane 2. Penny Dreadful 3. Penny from _Inspector Gadget_ 4. knockknockknock “Penny…” knockknockknock “Penny…” knockknockknock “Penny…” 5. Pennywise from Stephen King’s _IT_ 6. [Penny-farthing bicycle](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penny-farthing) ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/8775 "2025-11-17T05:59:26Z")
**People, places, things, and phrases containing the word ‘penny’** 1. Penny Lane 2. Penny Dreadful 3. Penny from _Inspector Gadget_ 4. knockknockknock “Penny…” knockknockknock “Penny…” knockknockknock “Penny…” 5. Pennywise from Stephen King’s _IT_ 6. [Penny-farthing bicycle](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penny-farthing) 7. In for a penny, in for a pound ---
**Author:** ![Jegpeg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jegpeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jegpeg)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 9:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/8776 "2025-11-17T09:33:23Z")
**People, places, things, and phrases containing the word ‘penny’** 1. Penny Lane 2. Penny Dreadful 3. Penny from _Inspector Gadget_ 4. knockknockknock “Penny…” knockknockknock “Penny…” knockknockknock “Penny…” 5. Pennywise from Stephen King’s _IT_ 6. [Penny-farthing bicycle](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penny-farthing) 7. In for a penny, in for a pound 8. Moneypenny (from James Bond) ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 10:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/8777 "2025-11-17T10:02:45Z")
**People, places, things, and phrases containing the word ‘penny’** 1. Penny Lane 2. Penny Dreadful 3. Penny from _Inspector Gadget_ 4. knockknockknock “Penny…” knockknockknock “Penny…” knockknockknock “Penny…” 5. Pennywise from Stephen King’s _IT_ 6. [Penny-farthing bicycle](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penny-farthing) 7. In for a penny, in for a pound 8. Moneypenny (from James Bond) 9. “Penny for your thoughts.” ---
**Author:** ![Bayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bayaker/32/3454_2.png) [@Bayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bayaker)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/8778 "2025-11-17T11:06:32Z")
**People, places, things, and phrases containing the word ‘penny’** 1. Penny Lane 2. Penny Dreadful 3. Penny from _Inspector Gadget_ 4. knockknockknock “Penny…” knockknockknock “Penny…” knockknockknock “Penny…” 5. Pennywise from Stephen King’s _IT_ 6. [Penny-farthing bicycle](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penny-farthing) 7. In for a penny, in for a pound 8. Moneypenny (from James Bond) 9. “Penny for your thoughts.” 10. Find a penny, pick it up, and all the day you’ll have good luck. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/8779 "2025-11-17T11:11:13Z")
> [@Bayaker](#): > > Moneypenny (from James Bond) Fun fact about Lois Maxwell as Moneypenny: for all that she was British in the James Bond films, she was actually Canadian, from Toronto. She was a classmate of my Dad’s at high school in Toronto, and Dad knew her as a friend and classmate. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2025, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/8780 "2025-11-17T16:03:38Z")
**People, places, things, and phrases containing the word ‘penny’** 1. Penny Lane 2. Penny Dreadful 3. Penny from _Inspector Gadget_ 4. knockknockknock “Penny…” knockknockknock “Penny…” knockknockknock “Penny…” 5. Pennywise from Stephen King’s _IT_ 6. [Penny-farthing bicycle](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penny-farthing) 7. In for a penny, in for a pound 8. Moneypenny (from James Bond) 9. “Penny for your thoughts.” 10. Find a penny, pick it up, and all the day you’ll have good luck. 11. Alfred Pennyworth Batman’s butler [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093.md?page=438) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093.md?page=440)