# Baker’s Dozen III

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**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [August 22, 2022, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093 "2022-08-22T15:39:52Z")\
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**Religious allusions in Disney films**

1. Fantasia 2000 - Donald Duck’s on Noah’s ark in _Pomp and Circumstance_
2. _Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs_, 1937 - Snow White kneels and prays for the “seven little men.”
3. The Jungle Book (1967) - Bagheera quotes John 15:13 “Greater love hath no one, than he who lays down his life for his friends.”
4. Fantasia (1949) - The ending segment features a devil (“Night on Bald Mountain”) followed by “Ave Maria.”
5. Polyanna (1960) - “if God took the trouble to tell us eight hundred times to be happy and rejoice, he MUST have wanted us to do it.”
6. Melody Time (1948) - _The Legend of Johnny Appleseed_ has the song _The Lord Is Good To Me_.
7. _The Incredibles_ (2004) - Bob and Helen are married in what appears to be a Christian church ceremony

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
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**Religious allusions in Disney films**

1. Fantasia 2000 - Donald Duck’s on Noah’s ark in _Pomp and Circumstance_
2. _Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs_, 1937 - Snow White kneels and prays for the “seven little men.”
3. The Jungle Book (1967) - Bagheera quotes John 15:13 “Greater love hath no one, than he who lays down his life for his friends.”
4. Fantasia (1949) - The ending segment features a devil (“Night on Bald Mountain”) followed by “Ave Maria.”
5. Polyanna (1960) - “if God took the trouble to tell us eight hundred times to be happy and rejoice, he MUST have wanted us to do it.”
6. Melody Time (1948) - _The Legend of Johnny Appleseed_ has the song _The Lord Is Good To Me_.
7. _The Incredibles_ (2004) - Bob and Helen are married in what appears to be a Christian church ceremony
8. _The Sword in the Stone_ (1963) - Arthur finds the mythical sword in a churchyard and when he pulls it from the stone onlookers say that it’s a “miracle ordained by heaven.”

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
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[quote=“Intergalactic\_Gladiator, post:9442, topic:970093, full:true”]  
**Religious allusions in Disney films**

1. Fantasia 2000 - Donald Duck’s on Noah’s ark in _Pomp and Circumstance_
2. _Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs_, 1937 - Snow White kneels and prays for the “seven little men.”
3. The Jungle Book (1967) - Bagheera quotes John 15:13 “Greater love hath no one, than he who lays down his life for his friends.”
4. Fantasia (1949) - The ending segment features a devil (“Night on Bald Mountain”) followed by “Ave Maria.”
5. Polyanna (1960) - “if God took the trouble to tell us eight hundred times to be happy and rejoice, he MUST have wanted us to do it.”
6. Melody Time (1948) - _The Legend of Johnny Appleseed_ has the song _The Lord Is Good To Me_.
7. _The Incredibles_ (2004) - Bob and Helen are married in what appears to be a Christian church ceremony
8. _The Sword in the Stone_ (1963) - Arthur finds the mythical sword in a churchyard and when he pulls it from the stone onlookers say that it’s a “miracle ordained by heaven.”
9. _The Hunchback of Notre Dame_ (1996) - Esmerelda prays in song with _God Help The Outcasts_.

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**Religious allusions in Disney films**

1. _Fantasia 2000_ - Donald Duck’s on Noah’s ark in _Pomp and Circumstance_
2. \*Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs\*, 1937 - Snow White kneels and prays for the “seven little men.”
3. The Jungle Book (1967) - Bagheera quotes John 15:13 “Greater love hath no one, than he who lays down his life for his friends.”
4. Fantasia (1949) - The ending segment features a devil (“Night on Bald Mountain”) followed by “Ave Maria.”
5. Polyanna (1960) - “if God took the trouble to tell us eight hundred times to be happy and rejoice, he MUST have wanted us to do it.”
6. Melody Time (1948) - \*The Legend of Johnny Appleseed\* has the song \*The Lord Is Good To Me\*.
7. \*The Incredibles\* (2004) - Bob and Helen are married in what appears to be a Christian church ceremony
8. \*The Sword in the Stone\* (1963) - Arthur finds the mythical sword in a churchyard and when he pulls it from the stone onlookers say that it’s a “miracle ordained by heaven.”
9. _The Hunchback of Notre Dame_ (1996) - Esmerelda prays in song with _God Help The Outcasts_.
10. _The Small One_ (1978) - a little boy in Nazareth is forced to sell his beloved donkey. Eventually, he finds a kind buyer, Joseph, who needs a donkey to carry Mary to Bethlehem

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2026, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/9445 "2026-03-30T16:38:32Z")

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**Religious allusions in Disney films**

1. _Fantasia 2000_ - Donald Duck’s on Noah’s ark in _Pomp and Circumstance_
2. _Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs_, 1937 - Snow White kneels and prays for the “seven little men.”
3. The Jungle Book (1967) - Bagheera quotes John 15:13 “Greater love hath no one, than he who lays down his life for his friends.”
4. Fantasia (1949) - The ending segment features a devil (“Night on Bald Mountain”) followed by “Ave Maria.”
5. Polyanna (1960) - “if God took the trouble to tell us eight hundred times to be happy and rejoice, he MUST have wanted us to do it.”
6. Melody Time (1948) - _The Legend of Johnny Appleseed_ has the song _The Lord Is Good To Me_.
7. _The Incredibles_ (2004) - Bob and Helen are married in what appears to be a Christian church ceremony
8. _The Sword in the Stone_ (1963) - Arthur finds the mythical sword in a churchyard and when he pulls it from the stone onlookers say that it’s a “miracle ordained by heaven.”
9. _The Hunchback of Notre Dame_ (1996) - Esmerelda prays in song with _God Help The Outcasts_.
10. _The Small One_ (1978) - a little boy in Nazareth is forced to sell his beloved donkey. Eventually, he finds a kind buyer, Joseph, who needs a donkey to carry Mary to Bethlehem
11. _Lilo & Stitch_ (2002) - Lilo kneels at her bed and prays, asking for a new friend.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
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**Religious allusions in Disney films**

1. _Fantasia 2000_ - Donald Duck’s on Noah’s ark in _Pomp and Circumstance_
2. _Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs_, 1937 - Snow White kneels and prays for the “seven little men.”
3. The Jungle Book (1967) - Bagheera quotes John 15:13 “Greater love hath no one, than he who lays down his life for his friends.”
4. Fantasia (1949) - The ending segment features a devil (“Night on Bald Mountain”) followed by “Ave Maria.”
5. Polyanna (1960) - “if God took the trouble to tell us eight hundred times to be happy and rejoice, he MUST have wanted us to do it.”
6. Melody Time (1948) - _The Legend of Johnny Appleseed_ has the song _The Lord Is Good To Me_.
7. _The Incredibles_ (2004) - Bob and Helen are married in what appears to be a Christian church ceremony
8. _The Sword in the Stone_ (1963) - Arthur finds the mythical sword in a churchyard and when he pulls it from the stone onlookers say that it’s a “miracle ordained by heaven.”
9. _The Hunchback of Notre Dame_ (1996) - Esmerelda prays in song with _God Help The Outcasts_.
10. _The Small One_ (1978) - a little boy in Nazareth is forced to sell his beloved donkey. Eventually, he finds a kind buyer, Joseph, who needs a donkey to carry Mary to Bethlehem
11. _Lilo & Stitch_ (2002) - Lilo kneels at her bed and prays, asking for a new friend.
12. _Mulan_ (1998) - ancestor worship

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**Religious allusions in Disney films**

1. _Fantasia 2000_ - Donald Duck’s on Noah’s ark in _Pomp and Circumstance_
2. _Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs_, 1937 - Snow White kneels and prays for the “seven little men.”
3. The Jungle Book (1967) - Bagheera quotes John 15:13 “Greater love hath no one, than he who lays down his life for his friends.”
4. Fantasia (1949) - The ending segment features a devil (“Night on Bald Mountain”) followed by “Ave Maria.”
5. Polyanna (1960) - “if God took the trouble to tell us eight hundred times to be happy and rejoice, he MUST have wanted us to do it.”
6. Melody Time (1948) - _The Legend of Johnny Appleseed_ has the song _The Lord Is Good To Me_.
7. _The Incredibles_ (2004) - Bob and Helen are married in what appears to be a Christian church ceremony
8. _The Sword in the Stone_ (1963) - Arthur finds the mythical sword in a churchyard and when he pulls it from the stone onlookers say that it’s a “miracle ordained by heaven.”
9. _The Hunchback of Notre Dame_ (1996) - Esmerelda prays in song with _God Help The Outcasts_.
10. _The Small One_ (1978) - a little boy in Nazareth is forced to sell his beloved donkey. Eventually, he finds a kind buyer, Joseph, who needs a donkey to carry Mary to Bethlehem
11. _Lilo & Stitch_ (2002) - Lilo kneels at her bed and prays, asking for a new friend.
12. _Mulan_ (1998) - ancestor worship
13. _Pocahontas_ (1995) - Pocahontas believes so strongly in her religion that she believes _rocks_ have spirits.

Pass.

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**Twentieth-century composers**

1. Béla Bartók

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**Twentieth-century composers**

1. Béla Bartók
2. Sergei Prokofiev

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**Twentieth-century composers**

1. Béla Bartók
2. Sergei Prokofiev
3. Richard Rodgers

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**Twentieth-century composers**

1. Béla Bartók
2. Sergei Prokofiev
3. Richard Rodgers
4. Leonard Bernstein

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**Twentieth-century composers**

1. Béla Bartók
2. Sergei Prokofiev
3. Richard Rodgers
4. Leonard Bernstein
5. Sergei Rachmaninoff

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**Twentieth-century composers**

1. Béla Bartók
2. Sergei Prokofiev
3. Richard Rodgers
4. Leonard Bernstein
5. Sergei Rachmaninoff
6. Iannis Xenakis

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**Twentieth-century composers**

1. Béla Bartók

2. Sergei Prokofiev

3. Richard Rodgers

4. Leonard Bernstein

5. Sergei Rachmaninoff

6. Iannis Xenakis

7. John Williams

I would list him as 20th century though I am not sure what the criteria is for composers that have spanned two centuries.

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As the category-starter, I’d say that anyone who has composed music in the twentieth century, and said music was subsequently performed in public and/or recorded, counts for our purposes.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
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**Twentieth-century composers**

1. Béla Bartók
2. Sergei Prokofiev
3. Richard Rodgers
4. Leonard Bernstein
5. Sergei Rachmaninoff
6. Iannis Xenakis
7. John Williams
8. Thomas Newman

Wrote one of my favorite bits of movie music for [_Little Women_ (1994) - very Coplandesque.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qu9iA9URLPo&list=RDQu9iA9URLPo&start_radio=1)

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**Post date:** [April 5, 2026, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/9457 "2026-04-05T20:07:21Z")

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**Twentieth-century composers**

1. Béla Bartók
2. Sergei Prokofiev
3. Richard Rodgers
4. Leonard Bernstein
5. Sergei Rachmaninoff
6. Iannis Xenakis
7. John Williams
8. Thomas Newman
9. Aaron Copeland

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**Twentieth-century composers**

1. Béla Bartók
2. Sergei Prokofiev
3. Richard Rodgers
4. Leonard Bernstein
5. Sergei Rachmaninoff
6. Iannis Xenakis
7. John Williams
8. Thomas Newman
9. Aaron Copeland
10. George Gershwin

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**Twentieth-century composers**

1. Béla Bartók
2. Sergei Prokofiev
3. Richard Rodgers
4. Leonard Bernstein
5. Sergei Rachmaninoff
6. Iannis Xenakis
7. John Williams
8. Thomas Newman
9. Aaron Copeland
10. George Gershwin
11. Alan Silvestri

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
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Silvestri wrote another favorite tune of mine, [the melancholy main theme from _Cast Away_.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Fbp1e9IEaY&list=RD3Fbp1e9IEaY&start_radio=1)

**Twentieth-century composers**

1. Béla Bartók
2. Sergei Prokofiev
3. Richard Rodgers
4. Leonard Bernstein
5. Sergei Rachmaninoff
6. Iannis Xenakis
7. John Williams
8. Thomas Newman
9. Aaron Copeland
10. George Gershwin
11. Alan Silvestri
12. James Horner

Hollywood’s on my mind! Here’s [the triumphant opening theme from _Glory_.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mR09OclTLNk&list=RDmR09OclTLNk&start_radio=1)

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