# Baker’s Dozen III **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [August 22, 2022, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093 "2022-08-22T15:39:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 476
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2026, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/9501 "2026-04-08T20:53:49Z")
**Thirteen Ways a Batter Can Reach First Base (without getting a base hit)** _(there are a total of twenty-three ways, or so I’ve been told)_ 1. Hit by pitch 2. Dropped third strike followed by a successful run to first 3. Intentional walk ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2026, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/9502 "2026-04-08T20:56:12Z")
**Thirteen Ways a Batter Can Reach First Base (without getting a base hit)** _(there are a total of twenty-three ways, or so I’ve been told)_ 1. Hit by pitch 2. Dropped third strike followed by a successful run to first 3. Intentional walk 4. Fielder’s choice e.g. Runner already on first. The shortstop chases down a dribbler into shallow left field, then decides his best play is to force out the runner at second vs firing a throw to first base to get the batter out. This is a fielder’s choice, not a base hit for the batter on first. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2026, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/9503 "2026-04-08T20:58:13Z")
**Thirteen Ways a Batter Can Reach First Base (without getting a base hit)** _(there are a total of twenty-three ways, or so I’ve been told)_ 1. Hit by pitch 2. Dropped third strike followed by a successful run to first 3. Intentional walk 4. Fielder’s choice 5. Four balls, and he gets a walk ---
**Author:** ![SpoilerVirgin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@SpoilerVirgin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpoilerVirgin)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2026, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/9504 "2026-04-08T21:17:41Z")
**Thirteen Ways a Batter Can Reach First Base (without getting a base hit)** _(there are a total of twenty-three ways, or so I’ve been told)_ 1. Hit by pitch 2. Dropped third strike followed by a successful run to first 3. Intentional walk 4. Fielder’s choice 5. Four balls, and he gets a walk 6. Put in as a pinch runner ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2026, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/9505 "2026-04-08T21:21:28Z")
> [@SpoilerVirgin](#): > > Put in as a pinch runner If a player enters the game as a pinch runner, he is not a batter. Need a ruling, @Bicycle_Bill. ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2026, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/9506 "2026-04-09T01:26:42Z")
**Thirteen Ways a Batter Can Reach First Base (without getting a base hit)** _(there are a total of twenty-three ways, or so I’ve been told)_ 1. Hit by pitch 2. Dropped third strike followed by a successful run to first 3. Intentional walk 4. Fielder’s choice 5. Four balls, and he gets a walk 6. Put in as a pinch runner 7. Catcher interference ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2026, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/9507 "2026-04-09T01:39:13Z")
[quote=“Intergalactic\_Gladiator, post:9506, topic:970093, full:true”] **Thirteen Ways a Batter Can Reach First Base (without getting a base hit)** _(there are a total of twenty-three ways, or so I’ve been told)_ 1. Hit by pitch 2. Dropped third strike followed by a successful run to first 3. Intentional walk 4. Fielder’s choice 5. Four balls, and he gets a walk 6. Put in as a pinch runner 7. Catcher interference 8. Batted ball hits a baserunner If a batted ball hits a baserunner, the ball is immediately dead, the runner is out, and the batter is awarded first base, unless that was the third out of the inning. All other runners return to the bases they occupied before the pitch, unless the batter being placed on first forces the runner to advance a base. For example: runners on first and second and less than two out. Batter hits a ground ball between second and third which hits the runner who was on second. That runner is out. The runner who was on first advances to second, and the batter goes to first. ---
**Author:** ![dirtball](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dirtball/32/18772_2.png) [@dirtball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dirtball)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2026, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/9508 "2026-04-09T02:10:54Z")
**Thirteen Ways a Batter Can Reach First Base (without getting a base hit)** _(there are a total of twenty-three ways, or so I’ve been told)_ 1. Hit by pitch 2. Dropped third strike followed by a successful run to first 3. Intentional walk 4. Fielder’s choice 5. Four balls, and he gets a walk 6. Put in as a pinch runner 7. Catcher interference 8. Batted ball hits a baserunner 9. Error If the batter reaches base because of a fielder’s error, it doesn’t count as a hit. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2026, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/9509 "2026-04-09T04:00:08Z")
**Thirteen Ways a Batter Can Reach First Base (without getting a base hit)** _(there are a total of twenty-three ways, or so I’ve been told)_ 1. Hit by pitch 2. Dropped third strike followed by a successful run to first 3. Intentional walk 4. Fielder’s choice 5. Four balls, and he gets a walk 6. Put in as a pinch runner 7. Catcher interference 8. Batted ball hits a baserunner 9. Error 10. Invited by the pitcher ---
**Author:** ![Bayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bayaker/32/3454_2.png) [@Bayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bayaker)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2026, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/9510 "2026-04-09T11:51:52Z")
**Thirteen Ways a Batter Can Reach First Base (without getting a base hit)** _(there are a total of twenty-three ways, or so I’ve been told)_ 1. Hit by pitch 2. Dropped third strike followed by a successful run to first 3. Intentional walk 4. Fielder’s choice 5. Four balls, and he gets a walk 6. Put in as a pinch runner 7. Catcher interference 8. Batted ball hits a baserunner 9. Error 10. Invited by the pitcher 11. Umpire interference When a fair ball hits an umpire before it passes a fielder. It becomes a dead ball and the batter is awarded first but it is not scored as a hit. > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Invited by the pitcher That’s just another way of saying _intentional walk_. For Mets fans it’s an _abracadabra walk_. That said, I can’t think there could be 23 ways without using different words for the same thing. ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2026, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/9511 "2026-04-09T12:29:46Z")
**Thirteen Ways a Batter Can Reach First Base (without getting a base hit)** _(there are a total of twenty-three ways, or so I’ve been told)_ 1. Hit by pitch 2. Dropped third strike followed by a successful run to first 3. Intentional walk 4. Fielder’s choice 5. Four balls, and he gets a walk 6. Put in as a pinch runner 7. Catcher interference 8. Batted ball hits a baserunner 9. Error 10. Invited by the pitcher 11. Umpire interference 12. A game is suspended, a runner is traded, and a new player is substituted to take the place of the batter. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2026, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/9512 "2026-04-09T12:49:13Z")
> [@Bayaker](#): > > That said, I can’t think there could be 23 ways without using different words for the same thing. I agree with this statement. I would like to see a definitive list of the 23 _different_ ways. Besides, it’s the manager who tells the ump that the batter should be placed on first base via the intentional walk. ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2026, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/9513 "2026-04-09T12:56:28Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > > [@SpoilerVirgin](#): > > > > Put in as a pinch runner > > If a player enters the game as a pinch runner, he is not a batter. This counts if the substituted runner replaces a batter who was injured before reaching first. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2026, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/9514 "2026-04-09T13:10:42Z")
> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#): > > This counts if the substituted runner replaces a batter who was injured before reaching first. So if the batter is injured via a hit by pitch and can’t make it to first (which has happened), I think that he’s no longer a batter. That, I suppose, is a matter of semantics. Here’s the article I found that listed the 23 ways. And oh by the way, the 23rd method was via a hit. > **[Who’s on first and how’d he get there? There’s 23 ways - The Daily Iberian](https://thedailyiberian.com/2016/04/05/whos-on-first-and-howd-he-get-there-theres-23-ways/)** > > With the arrival of spring, a young man’s thoughts turn to baseball — or at least a lot of them think about it. I’m not a huge fan, but do \[…\] **hirteen Ways a Batter Can Reach First Base (without getting a base hit)** _(there are a total of twenty-three ways, or so I’ve been told)_ 1. Hit by pitch 2. Dropped third strike followed by a successful run to first 3. Intentional walk 4. Fielder’s choice 5. Four balls, and he gets a walk 6. Put in as a pinch runner 7. Catcher interference 8. Batted ball hits a baserunner 9. Error 10. Invited by the pitcher 11. Umpire interference 12. A game is suspended, a runner is traded, and a new player is substituted to take the place of the batter. 13. Fan interference Next up: **Division 1 College Basketball Programs That Have Won Multiple NCAA Tournaments** 1. Kansas Jayhawks ---
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**Division 1 College Basketball Programs That Have Won Multiple NCAA Tournaments** 1. Kansas Jayhawks 2. University of Cincinnati ---
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**Division 1 College Basketball Programs That Have Won Multiple NCAA Tournaments** 1. Kansas Jayhawks 2. University of Cincinnati 3. Indiana Hoosiers ---
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**Division 1 College Basketball Programs That Have Won Multiple NCAA Tournaments** 1. Kansas Jayhawks 2. Cincinnati Bearcats 3. Indiana Hoosiers 4. North Carolina Tar Heels ---
**Author:** ![Bicycle\_Bill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bicycle_bill/32/6208_2.png) [@Bicycle\_Bill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bicycle_Bill)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2026, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/9518 "2026-04-09T16:31:08Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > > [@SpoilerVirgin](#): > > > > Put in as a pinch runner, > > If a player enters the game as a pinch runner, he is not a batter. > > Need a ruling, @Bicycle_Bill. I did say a batter, not a player. Disallowed _(although I see the thread has already moved past this)_ _ **-“BB”-** _ ---
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**Division 1 College Basketball Programs That Have Won Multiple NCAA Tournaments** 1. Kansas Jayhawks 2. Cincinnati Bearcats 3. Indiana Hoosiers 4. North Carolina Tar Heels 5. UCLA Bruins ---
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