# Baker’s Dozen III **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [August 22, 2022, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093 "2022-08-22T15:39:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 498
**Author:** ![dirtball](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dirtball/32/18772_2.png) [@dirtball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dirtball)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2026, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/9941 "2026-08-21T17:47:19Z")
**Famous people who are related, by blood or marriage** 1. Jane Austen and her 8x grandfather, Thomas More 2. Tom Hanks and Abraham Lincoln 3. Stanley Tucci and Emily Blunt 4. Teddy Roosevelt and Franklin Roosevelt 5. Lenny Kravitz and Al Roker 6. Kurt Vonnegut and Geraldo Rivera Rivera was married to Vonnegut’s daughter Edith for a few years in the seventies, so they (the two men) were related by marriage as father- and son-in-law. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2026, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/9942 "2026-08-21T18:59:34Z")
**Famous people who are related, by blood or marriage** 1. Jane Austen and her 8x grandfather, Thomas More 2. Tom Hanks and Abraham Lincoln 3. Stanley Tucci and Emily Blunt 4. Teddy Roosevelt and Franklin Roosevelt 5. Lenny Kravitz and Al Roker 6. Kurt Vonnegut and Geraldo Rivera 7. George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush Father and son. ---
**Author:** ![Bayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bayaker/32/3454_2.png) [@Bayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bayaker)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2026, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/9943 "2026-08-22T15:43:36Z")
**Famous people who are related, by blood or marriage** 1. Jane Austen and her 8x grandfather, Thomas More 2. Tom Hanks and Abraham Lincoln 3. Stanley Tucci and Emily Blunt 4. Teddy Roosevelt and Franklin Roosevelt 5. Lenny Kravitz and Al Roker 6. Kurt Vonnegut and Geraldo Rivera 7. George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush 8. Franklin Pierce and Barbara Bush ---
**Author:** ![Jegpeg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jegpeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jegpeg)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2026, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/9944 "2026-08-22T18:26:30Z")
**Famous people who are related, by blood or marriage** 1. Jane Austen and her 8x grandfather, Thomas More 2. Tom Hanks and Abraham Lincoln 3. Stanley Tucci and Emily Blunt 4. Teddy Roosevelt and Franklin Roosevelt 5. Lenny Kravitz and Al Roker 6. Kurt Vonnegut and Geraldo Rivera 7. George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush 8. Franklin Pierce and Barbara Bush 9. George W. Bush and Barrack Obama Are 10th Cousins one removed > **[BBC NEWS | Americas | Obama a distant cousin of Bush](http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7313789.stm)** > > Genealogists discover family ties between Barack Obama and George W Bush and Hillary Clinton has her own celebrity links. ---
**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2026, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/9945 "2026-08-22T22:52:16Z")
**Famous people who are related, by blood or marriage** 1. Jane Austen and her 8x grandfather, Thomas More 2. Tom Hanks and Abraham Lincoln 3. Stanley Tucci and Emily Blunt 4. Teddy Roosevelt and Franklin Roosevelt 5. Lenny Kravitz and Al Roker 6. Kurt Vonnegut and Geraldo Rivera 7. George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush 8. Franklin Pierce and Barbara Bush 9. George W. Bush and Barack Obama 10. Laura Ingalls Wilder and Franklin Delano Roosevelt Both descendants of the Delano family, 5th cousins one removed. She didn’t know about the relationship, which genealogical research brought up after her death. In fact she was a libertarian and very much opposed to FDRs policies in the 30s. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2026, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/9946 "2026-08-23T04:17:04Z")
**Famous people who are related, by blood or marriage** 1. Jane Austen and her 8x grandfather, Thomas More 2. Tom Hanks and Abraham Lincoln 3. Stanley Tucci and Emily Blunt 4. Teddy Roosevelt and Franklin Roosevelt 5. Lenny Kravitz and Al Roker 6. Kurt Vonnegut and Geraldo Rivera 7. George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush 8. Franklin Pierce and Barbara Bush 9. George W. Bush and Barack Obama 10. Laura Ingalls Wilder and Franklin Delano Roosevelt 11. Francis Ford Coppola, Talia Shire and Nicolas Cage Coppola is Cage’s uncle and Shire is his aunt. ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2026, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/9947 "2026-08-25T19:25:56Z")
**Famous people who are related, by blood or marriage** 1. Jane Austen and her 8x grandfather, Thomas More 2. Tom Hanks and Abraham Lincoln 3. Stanley Tucci and Emily Blunt 4. Teddy Roosevelt and Franklin Roosevelt 5. Lenny Kravitz and Al Roker 6. Kurt Vonnegut and Geraldo Rivera 7. George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush 8. Franklin Pierce and Barbara Bush 9. George W. Bush and Barack Obama 10. Laura Ingalls Wilder and Franklin Delano Roosevelt 11. Francis Ford Coppola, Talia Shire and Nicolas Cage 12. Lenny Kravitz and Al Roker They are second cousins once removed. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2026, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/9948 "2026-08-25T19:56:09Z")
Umm… > [@Railer13](#): > > 1. Lenny Kravitz and Al Roker > [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#): > > 1. Lenny Kravitz and Al Roker ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2026, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/9949 "2026-08-25T20:04:01Z")
D’oh! **Famous people who are related, by blood or marriage** 1. Jane Austen and her 8x grandfather, Thomas More 2. Tom Hanks and Abraham Lincoln 3. Stanley Tucci and Emily Blunt 4. Teddy Roosevelt and Franklin Roosevelt 5. Lenny Kravitz and Al Roker 6. Kurt Vonnegut and Geraldo Rivera 7. George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush 8. Franklin Pierce and Barbara Bush 9. George W. Bush and Barack Obama 10. Laura Ingalls Wilder and Franklin Delano Roosevelt 11. Francis Ford Coppola, Talia Shire and Nicolas Cage 12. Gwyneth Paltrow and Katherine Moennig They are cousins. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2026, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/9950 "2026-08-26T05:44:32Z")
**Famous people who are related, by blood or marriage** 1. Jane Austen and her 8x grandfather, Thomas More 2. Tom Hanks and Abraham Lincoln 3. Stanley Tucci and Emily Blunt 4. Teddy Roosevelt and Franklin Roosevelt 5. Lenny Kravitz and Al Roker 6. Kurt Vonnegut and Geraldo Rivera 7. George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush 8. Franklin Pierce and Barbara Bush 9. George W. Bush and Barack Obama 10. Laura Ingalls Wilder and Franklin Delano Roosevelt 11. Francis Ford Coppola, Talia Shire and Nicolas Cage 12. Gwyneth Paltrow and Katherine Moennig 13. Carrie Fisher and Billie Lourd Fisher was Lourd’s mother. New category: **Important events that most everyone knows the exact date of (or at least the year)** 1. _September 11, 2001_ - 9/11 attacks on New York City’s World Trade Center, the Pentagon, and a fourth airplane that was retaken and crashed before reaching its destination ---
**Author:** ![Bicycle\_Bill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bicycle_bill/32/6208_2.png) [@Bicycle\_Bill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bicycle_Bill)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2026, 9:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/9951 "2026-08-26T09:57:58Z")
**Important events that most everyone knows the exact date of (or at least the year)** 1. _September 11, 2001_ - 9/11 attacks on New York City’s World Trade Center, the Pentagon, and a fourth airplane that was retaken and crashed before reaching its destination 2. _December 7, 1941_– Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor _ **-“BB”-** _ ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2026, 10:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/9952 "2026-08-26T10:06:34Z")
**Important events that most everyone knows the exact date of (or at least the year)** 1. _September 11, 2001_ - 9/11 attacks on New York City’s World Trade Center, the Pentagon, and a fourth airplane that was retaken and crashed before reaching its destination 2. _December 7, 1941_– Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor 3. _November 22, 1963_ - President John F. Kennedy is assassinated in Dallas ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2026, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/9953 "2026-08-26T13:48:48Z")
**Important events that most everyone knows the exact date of (or at least the year)** 1. _September 11, 2001_ - 9/11 attacks on New York City’s World Trade Center, the Pentagon, and a fourth airplane that was retaken and crashed before reaching its destination 2. _December 7, 1941_– Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor 3. _November 22, 1963_ - President John F. Kennedy is assassinated in Dallas 4. June 15, 1215 - The sealing of the Magna Carta by King John. ---
**Author:** ![Bayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bayaker/32/3454_2.png) [@Bayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bayaker)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2026, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/9954 "2026-08-26T13:52:17Z")
**Important events that most everyone knows the exact date of (or at least the year)** 1. _September 11, 2001_ - 9/11 attacks on New York City’s World Trade Center, the Pentagon, and a fourth airplane that was retaken and crashed before reaching its destination 2. _December 7, 1941_– Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor 3. _November 22, 1963_ - President John F. Kennedy is assassinated in Dallas 4. June 15, 1215 - The sealing of the Magna Carta by King John. 5. Christmas Day, 800 - The coronation of Charlemagne in Rome by Pope St. Leo III ---
**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2026, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/9955 "2026-08-26T16:16:49Z")
**Important events that most everyone knows the exact date of (or at least the year)** 1. _September 11, 2001_ - 9/11 attacks on New York City’s World Trade Center, the Pentagon, and a fourth airplane that was retaken and crashed before reaching its destination 2. _December 7, 1941_– Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor 3. _November 22, 1963_ - President John F. Kennedy is assassinated in Dallas 4. June 15, 1215 - The sealing of the Magna Carta by King John. 5. Christmas Day, 800 - The coronation of Charlemagne in Rome by Pope St. Leo III 6. January 6, 2021 - Insurrectionists storm the US Capitol Building ---
**Author:** ![Jegpeg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jegpeg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jegpeg)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2026, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/9956 "2026-08-26T20:01:06Z")
**Important events that most everyone knows the exact date of (or at least the year)** 1. _September 11, 2001_ - 9/11 attacks on New York City’s World Trade Center, the Pentagon, and a fourth airplane that was retaken and crashed before reaching its destination 2. _December 7, 1941_– Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor 3. _November 22, 1963_ - President John F. Kennedy is assassinated in Dallas 4. June 15, 1215 - The sealing of the Magna Carta by King John. 5. Christmas Day, 800 - The coronation of Charlemagne in Rome by Pope St. Leo III 6. January 6, 2021 - Insurrectionists storm the US Capitol Building 7. October 14, 1066 - Battle of Hastings An event whose date is so well known that at least in the UK history is often referred to a “1066 and all that” It is a little concerning if you asked me the dates of the first 6 events I would only be certain of the year of 2 of them, might get 3 more but would likely be a year or two out and had no idea of the sixth. Guess my knowledge of history is worse than almost everyone. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2026, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/9957 "2026-08-26T21:31:17Z")
**Important events that most everyone knows the exact date of (or at least the year)** 1. _September 11, 2001_ - 9/11 attacks on New York City’s World Trade Center, the Pentagon, and a fourth airplane that was retaken and crashed before reaching its destination 2. _December 7, 1941_– Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor 3. _November 22, 1963_ - President John F. Kennedy is assassinated in Dallas 4. June 15, 1215 - The sealing of the Magna Carta by King John. 5. Christmas Day, 800 - The coronation of Charlemagne in Rome by Pope St. Leo III 6. January 6, 2021 - Insurrectionists storm the US Capitol Building 7. October 14, 1066 - Battle of Hastings 8. July 7, 2005: 7/7 London Bombings ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2026, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/9958 "2026-08-26T22:20:37Z")
[quote=“ekedolphin, post:9957, topic:970093, full:true”] **Important events that most everyone knows the exact date of (or at least the year)** 1. _September 11, 2001_ - 9/11 attacks on New York City’s World Trade Center, the Pentagon, and a fourth airplane that was retaken and crashed before reaching its destination 2. _December 7, 1941_– Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor 3. _November 22, 1963_ - President John F. Kennedy is assassinated in Dallas 4. June 15, 1215 - The sealing of the Magna Carta by King John. 5. Christmas Day, 800 - The coronation of Charlemagne in Rome by Pope St. Leo III 6. January 6, 2021 - Insurrectionists storm the US Capitol Building 7. October 14, 1066 - Battle of Hastings 8. July 7, 2005: 7/7 London Bombings 9. October 12, 1492 - Columbus reaches the New World ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2026, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/9959 "2026-08-26T23:39:00Z")
**Important events that most everyone knows the exact date of (or at least the year)** 1. _September 11, 2001_ - 9/11 attacks on New York City’s World Trade Center, the Pentagon, and a fourth airplane that was retaken and crashed before reaching its destination 2. _December 7, 1941_– Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor 3. _November 22, 1963_ - President John F. Kennedy is assassinated in Dallas 4. June 15, 1215 - The sealing of the Magna Carta by King John. 5. Christmas Day, 800 - The coronation of Charlemagne in Rome by Pope St. Leo III 6. January 6, 2021 - Insurrectionists storm the US Capitol Building 7. October 14, 1066 - Battle of Hastings 8. July 7, 2005: 7/7 London Bombings 9. October 12, 1492 - Columbus reaches the New World 10. July 20, 1969 - Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin land on the Moon on _Apollo 11._ “That’s one small step for a man; one giant leap for mankind.” ---
**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2026, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093/9960 "2026-08-27T15:01:54Z")
**Important events that most everyone knows the exact date of (or at least the year)** 1. _September 11, 2001_ - 9/11 attacks on New York City’s World Trade Center, the Pentagon, and a fourth airplane that was retaken and crashed before reaching its destination 2. _December 7, 1941_– Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor 3. _November 22, 1963_ - President John F. Kennedy is assassinated in Dallas 4. June 15, 1215 - The sealing of the Magna Carta by King John. 5. Christmas Day, 800 - The coronation of Charlemagne in Rome by Pope St. Leo III 6. January 6, 2021 - Insurrectionists storm the US Capitol Building 7. October 14, 1066 - Battle of Hastings 8. July 7, 2005: 7/7 London Bombings 9. October 12, 1492 - Columbus reaches the New World 10. July 20, 1969 - Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin land on the Moon on _Apollo 11._ “That’s one small step for a man; one giant leap for mankind.” 11. December 21, 1620 - Pilgrims land at Plymouth Rock. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093.md?page=497) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iii/970093.md?page=499)