# Baker’s Dozen IV **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [September 18, 2026, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iv/1033177 "2026-09-18T13:39:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2026, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iv/1033177/261 "2026-10-17T12:28:03Z")
**Elizabeth/Betty/Beth/&c.** 1. Queen Elizabeth I - English monarch 2. Betty Grable - Actress/pin-up girl of the 1930s/40s ---
**Author:** ![dirtball](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dirtball/32/18772_2.png) [@dirtball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dirtball)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2026, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iv/1033177/262 "2026-10-17T12:33:05Z")
**Elizabeth/Betty/Beth/&c.** 1. Queen Elizabeth I - English monarch 2. Betty Grable - Actress/pin-up girl of the 1930s/40s 3. Betty Cooper - Comic book character ---
**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2026, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iv/1033177/263 "2026-10-17T12:56:27Z")
What happened to Alice #11, 12 and 13? ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2026, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iv/1033177/264 "2026-10-17T14:19:27Z")
Oops. Mea culpa, I jumped the gun. ---
**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2026, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iv/1033177/265 "2026-10-17T14:49:54Z")
I got your back, jack. **Alices, Fictional or Real** 1. Alice Paul, American suffragist and women’s rights activist 2. Alice Liddell, whom Lewis Carroll told stories to and about 3. Alice Cooper, pioneer of shock rock 4. Alice Nelson, the housekeeper in _The Brady Bunch_ 5. Alice Krige, Borg queen 6. Alice Coltrane - jazz musician 7. _Alice Doesn’t Live Here Anymore_ (1974) 8. Alice - _Resident Evil_ heroine 9. Alice - Title character of Elton John’s _All the Young Girls Love Alice_ 10. Alice Roosevelt Longworth- president’s daughter, socialite and wiseass 11. Alice Bowie - Cheech Marin’s alter ego (“Earache My Eye”; _Up In Smoke_) **Elizabeth/Betty/Beth/&c.** 1. Queen Elizabeth I - English monarch 2. Betty Grable - Actress/pin-up girl of the 1930s/40s 3. Betty Cooper - Comic book character 4. Space Beth - _Rick and Morty_ ---
**Author:** ![Bayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bayaker/32/3454_2.png) [@Bayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bayaker)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2026, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iv/1033177/266 "2026-10-17T15:27:31Z")
**Alices, Fictional or Real** 1. Alice Paul, American suffragist and women’s rights activist 2. Alice Liddell, whom Lewis Carroll told stories to and about 3. Alice Cooper, pioneer of shock rock 4. Alice Nelson, the housekeeper in _The Brady Bunch_ 5. Alice Krige, Borg queen 6. Alice Coltrane - jazz musician 7. _Alice Doesn’t Live Here Anymore_ (1974) 8. Alice - _Resident Evil_ heroine 9. Alice - Title character of Elton John’s _All the Young Girls Love Alice_ 10. Alice Roosevelt Longworth- president’s daughter, socialite and wiseass 11. Alice Bowie - Cheech Marin’s alter ego (“Earache My Eye”; _Up In Smoke_) 12. Alice the Goon - _Popeye_ (comic strip and cartoon series) **Elizabeth/Betty/Beth/&c.** 1. Queen Elizabeth I - English monarch 2. Betty Grable - Actress/pin-up girl of the 1930s/40s 3. Betty Cooper - Comic book character 4. Space Beth - _Rick and Morty_ 5. Elizabeth City, NC ---
**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2026, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iv/1033177/267 "2026-10-17T15:31:59Z")
**Alices, Fictional or Real** 1. Alice Paul, American suffragist and women’s rights activist 2. Alice Liddell, whom Lewis Carroll told stories to and about 3. Alice Cooper, pioneer of shock rock 4. Alice Nelson, the housekeeper in _The Brady Bunch_ 5. Alice Krige, Borg queen 6. Alice Coltrane - jazz musician 7. _Alice Doesn’t Live Here Anymore_ (1974) 8. Alice - _Resident Evil_ heroine 9. Alice - Title character of Elton John’s _All the Young Girls Love Alice_ 10. Alice Roosevelt Longworth- president’s daughter, socialite and wiseass 11. Alice Bowie - Cheech Marin’s alter ego (“Earache My Eye”; _Up In Smoke_) 12. Alice the Goon - _Popeye_ (comic strip and cartoon series) 13. Alice In Chains - Rock band **Elizabeth/Betty/Beth/&c.** 1. Queen Elizabeth I - English monarch 2. Betty Grable - Actress/pin-up girl of the 1930s/40s 3. Betty Cooper - Comic book character 4. Space Beth - _Rick and Morty_ 5. Elizabeth City, NC 6. Bettie Page - pin-up girl Alice 11, 12 and 13 might have been clones from the Umbrella Corporation ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2026, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iv/1033177/268 "2026-10-17T16:00:34Z")
**Elizabeth/Betty/Beth/&c.** 1. Queen Elizabeth I - English monarch 2. Betty Grable - Actress/pin-up girl of the 1930s/40s 3. Betty Cooper - Comic book character 4. Space Beth - _Rick and Morty_ 5. Elizabeth City, NC 6. Bettie Page - pin-up girl 7. Lizzie Borden - proof of the convicting power of rhymes ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2026, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iv/1033177/269 "2026-10-17T16:29:10Z")
**Elizabeth/Betty/Beth/&c.** 1. Queen Elizabeth I - English monarch 2. Betty Grable - Actress/pin-up girl of the 1930s/40s 3. Betty Cooper - Comic book character 4. Space Beth - _Rick and Morty_ 5. Elizabeth City, NC 6. Bettie Page - pin-up girl 7. Lizzie Borden - proof of the convicting power of rhymes 8. Elizabeth Bartlet, one of President Jed Bartlet’s daughters on _The West Wing_ ---
**Author:** ![SpoilerVirgin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@SpoilerVirgin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpoilerVirgin)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2026, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iv/1033177/270 "2026-10-17T17:04:54Z")
**Elizabeth/Betty/Beth/&c.** 1. Queen Elizabeth I - English monarch 2. Betty Grable - Actress/pin-up girl of the 1930s/40s 3. Betty Cooper - Comic book character 4. Space Beth - _Rick and Morty_ 5. Elizabeth City, NC 6. Bettie Page - pin-up girl 7. Lizzie Borden - proof of the convicting power of rhymes 8. Elizabeth Bartlet, one of President Jed Bartlet’s daughters on _The West Wing_ 9. Elizabeth McCord, U.S. Secretary of State (later President) from _Madam Secretary_ ---
**Author:** ![Bicycle\_Bill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bicycle_bill/32/6208_2.png) [@Bicycle\_Bill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bicycle_Bill)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2026, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iv/1033177/271 "2026-10-17T17:13:17Z")
**Elizabeth/Betty/Beth/&c.** 1. Queen Elizabeth I - English monarch 2. Betty Grable - Actress/pin-up girl of the 1930s/40s 3. Betty Cooper - Comic book character 4. Space Beth - _Rick and Morty_ 5. Elizabeth City, NC 6. Bettie Page - pin-up girl 7. Lizzie Borden - proof of the convicting power of rhymes 8. Elizabeth Bartlet, one of President Jed Bartlet’s daughters on _The West Wing_ 9. Elizabeth McCord, U.S. Secretary of State (later President) from _Madam Secretary_ 10. Elizabeth Montgomery, actress, best known as ‘Samantha’ on _Bewitched_ _ **-“BB”-** _ ---
**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2026, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iv/1033177/272 "2026-10-17T20:42:48Z")
**Elizabeth/Betty/Beth/&c.** 1. Queen Elizabeth I - English monarch 2. Betty Grable - Actress/pin-up girl of the 1930s/40s 3. Betty Cooper - Comic book character 4. Space Beth - _Rick and Morty_ 5. Elizabeth City, NC 6. Bettie Page - pin-up girl 7. Lizzie Borden - proof of the convicting power of rhymes 8. Elizabeth Bartlet, one of President Jed Bartlet’s daughters on _The West Wing_ 9. Elizabeth McCord, U.S. Secretary of State (later President) from _Madam Secretary_ 10. Elizabeth Montgomery, actress, best known as ‘Samantha’ on _Bewitched_ 11. Shannon Elizabeth, actress, **American Pie** ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2026, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iv/1033177/273 "2026-10-17T20:59:09Z")
**Elizabeth/Betty/Beth/&c.** 1. Queen Elizabeth I - English monarch 2. Betty Grable - Actress/pin-up girl of the 1930s/40s 3. Betty Cooper - Comic book character 4. Space Beth - _Rick and Morty_ 5. Elizabeth City, NC 6. Bettie Page - pin-up girl 7. Lizzie Borden - proof of the convicting power of rhymes 8. Elizabeth Bartlet, one of President Jed Bartlet’s daughters on _The West Wing_ 9. Elizabeth McCord, U.S. Secretary of State (later President) from _Madam Secretary_ 10. Elizabeth Montgomery, actress, best known as ‘Samantha’ on _Bewitched_ 11. Shannon Elizabeth, actress, **American Pie** 12. Betty White, much-loved comedian and actress ---
**Author:** ![knoodler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ccd318/32.png) [@knoodler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/knoodler)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2026, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iv/1033177/274 "2026-10-17T22:38:49Z")
**Elizabeth/Betty/Beth/&c.** 1. Queen Elizabeth I - English monarch 2. Betty Grable - Actress/pin-up girl of the 1930s/40s 3. Betty Cooper - Comic book character 4. Space Beth - _Rick and Morty_ 5. Elizabeth City, NC 6. Bettie Page - pin-up girl 7. Lizzie Borden - proof of the convicting power of rhymes 8. Elizabeth Bartlet, one of President Jed Bartlet’s daughters on _The West Wing_ 9. Elizabeth McCord, U.S. Secretary of State (later President) from _Madam Secretary_ 10. Elizabeth Montgomery, actress, best known as ‘Samantha’ on _Bewitched_ 11. Shannon Elizabeth, actress, **American Pie** 12. Betty White, much-loved comedian and actress 13. Beth Harmon, chess prodigy (_The Queen’s Gambit_) **Michael/Mike/etc.** 1. Al Michaels, sports announcer ---
**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2026, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iv/1033177/275 "2026-10-17T22:56:46Z")
**Michael/Mike/etc.** 1. Al Michaels, sports announcer 2. Mike + the Mechanics, rock band ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2026, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iv/1033177/276 "2026-10-17T23:37:22Z")
**Michael/Mike/etc.** 1. Al Michaels, sports announcer 2. Mike + the Mechanics, rock band 3. Michael Jordan, former professional basketball player ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2026, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iv/1033177/277 "2026-10-18T00:16:10Z")
**Michael/Mike/etc.** 1. Al Michaels, sports announcer 2. Mike + the Mechanics, rock band 3. Michael Jordan, former professional basketball player 4. Miguel de Cervantes, Spanish author ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2026, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iv/1033177/278 "2026-10-18T00:17:41Z")
**Michael/Mike/etc.** 1. Al Michaels, sports announcer 2. Mike + the Mechanics, rock band 3. Michael Jordan, former professional basketball player 4. Miguel de Cervantes, Spanish author 5. Shawn Michaels, retired professional wrestler and current booker of WWE’s NXT developmental brand ---
**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2026, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iv/1033177/279 "2026-10-18T01:28:50Z")
**Michael/Mike/etc.** 1. Al Michaels, sports announcer 2. Mike + the Mechanics, rock band 3. Michael Jordan, former professional basketball player 4. Miguel de Cervantes, Spanish author 5. Shawn Michaels, retired professional wrestler and current booker of WWE’s NXT developmental brand 6. Jillian Michaels, fitness trainer ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2026, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iv/1033177/280 "2026-10-18T01:29:29Z")
**Michael/Mike/etc.** 1. Al Michaels, sports announcer 2. Mike + the Mechanics, rock band 3. Michael Jordan, former professional basketball player 4. Miguel de Cervantes, Spanish author 5. Shawn Michaels, retired professional wrestler and current booker of WWE’s NXT developmental brand 6. Jillian Michaels, fitness trainer 7. Michael Jackson, King of Pop [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iv/1033177.md?page=13) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/baker-s-dozen-iv/1033177.md?page=15)