# Baker's Dozen II (Part 1)

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**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [January 25, 2020, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938 "2020-01-25T03:38:46Z")\
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Click on the little cartoon speech bubble in the upper-left corner. Or just copy and paste.

World War II Aircraft names or nicknames

1. Havoc (Douglas A-20)
2. Zeke or Zero (Mitsubishi A6M)
3. Mustang (North American P-51)
4. Komet ( Messerschmitt Me 163)
5. Vickers Armstrong Supermarine Spitfire
6. Superfortress (Boeing B-29)
7. Heinkel He 51
8. Focke-Wulf Fw 190
9. Vought F4U Corsair
10. Yakovlev Yak-3
11. Mosquito de Havilland DH.98
12. Lightning, Lockheed P-39, with twin booms
13. Messerschmitt Me 262 Schwalbe

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Noted peacemakers/diplomats, and a brief description

1. Chiune Sugihara - Japanese diplomat; saved thousands in WWII

> **[Chiune Sugihara](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiune_Sugihara)**
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> Chiune Sugihara (杉原 千畝, Sugihara Chiune, 1 January 1900 – 31 July 1986) was a Japanese diplomat who served as vice-consul for the Japanese Empire in Kaunas, Lithuania. During the Second World War, Sugihara helped thousands of Jews flee Europe by issuing transit visas to them so that they could travel through Japanese territory, risking his job and the lives of his family. The fleeing Jews were refugees from German-occupied Western Poland and Sovie...

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Noted peacemakers/diplomats, and a brief description

1. Chiune Sugihara - Japanese diplomat; saved thousands in WWII
2. Leo Tolstoy

His writing had an influence on Ghandi, MLK, and Mandela, among others.

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Noted peacemakers/diplomats, and a brief description

1. Chiune Sugihara - Japanese diplomat; saved thousands in WWII
2. Leo Tolstoy
3. Mahatma Gandhi - Indian thorn-in-the-side

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**Post date:** [June 25, 2020, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/2744 "2020-06-25T15:50:05Z")

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Noted peacemakers/diplomats, and a brief description

1. Chiune Sugihara - Japanese diplomat; saved thousands in WWII
2. Leo Tolstoy - his writing had an influence on Ghandi, MLK, and Mandela, among others
3. Mahatma Gandhi - Indian thorn-in-the-side
4. Martin Luther King Jr. - prominent nonviolent leader of American Civil Rights Movement

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**Post date:** [June 25, 2020, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/2745 "2020-06-25T21:44:28Z")

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Noted peacemakers/diplomats, and a brief description

1. Chiune Sugihara - Japanese diplomat; saved thousands in WWII
2. Leo Tolstoy - his writing had an influence on Gandhi, MLK, and Mandela, among others
3. Mahatma Gandhi - Indian thorn-in-the-side
4. Martin Luther King Jr. - prominent nonviolent leader of American Civil Rights Movement
5. Dag Hammarskjöld - 2nd Secretary-General of the UN and the only person to be awarded a [Nobel Peace Prize](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_Peace_Prize) posthumously.

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**Post date:** [June 25, 2020, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/2746 "2020-06-25T21:45:17Z")

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Noted peacemakers/diplomats, and a brief description

1. Chiune Sugihara - Japanese diplomat; saved thousands in WWII
2. Leo Tolstoy - his writing had an influence on Ghandi, MLK, and Mandela, among others
3. Mahatma Gandhi - Indian thorn-in-the-side
4. Martin Luther King Jr. - prominent nonviolent leader of American Civil Rights Movement
5. Dag Hammarskjöld - 2nd Secretary-General of the UN and the only person to be awarded a [Nobel Peace Prize](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_Peace_Prize) posthumously.
6. Lester B. Pearson - Nobel Peace Prize winner in 1957 for organizing the UN Emergency Force to resolve the Suez Canal Crisis

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2020, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/2747 "2020-06-26T01:11:17Z")

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Noted peacemakers/diplomats, and a brief description

1. Chiune Sugihara - Japanese diplomat; saved thousands in WWII
2. Leo Tolstoy - his writing had an influence on Ghandi, MLK, and Mandela, among others
3. Mahatma Gandhi - Indian thorn-in-the-side
4. Martin Luther King Jr. - prominent nonviolent leader of American Civil Rights Movement
5. Dag Hammarskjöld - 2nd Secretary-General of the UN and the only person to be awarded a [Nobel Peace Prize](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_Peace_Prize) posthumously.
6. Lester B. Pearson - Nobel Peace Prize winner in 1957 for organizing the UN Emergency Force to resolve the Suez Canal Crisis
7. Nelson Mandela - imprisoned for 27 years but emerged, without rancor or bitterness, to lead and help unify his country

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**Post date:** [June 26, 2020, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/2748 "2020-06-26T17:59:15Z")

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Noted peacemakers/diplomats, and a brief description

1. Chiune Sugihara - Japanese diplomat; saved thousands in WWII
2. Leo Tolstoy - his writing had an influence on Ghandi, MLK, and Mandela, among others
3. Mahatma Gandhi - Indian thorn-in-the-side
4. Martin Luther King Jr. - prominent nonviolent leader of American Civil Rights Movement
5. Dag Hammarskjöld - 2nd Secretary-General of the UN and the only person to be awarded a [Nobel Peace Prize](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_Peace_Prize) posthumously.
6. Lester B. Pearson - Nobel Peace Prize winner in 1957 for organizing the UN Emergency Force to resolve the Suez Canal Crisis
7. Nelson Mandela - imprisoned for 27 years but emerged, without rancor or bitterness, to lead and help unify his country
8. Mikhail Gorbachev - Introduced glasnost and granted Soviet people new freedoms, including freedom of speech.

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**Post date:** [June 26, 2020, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/2749 "2020-06-26T18:58:33Z")

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Noted peacemakers/diplomats, and a brief description

1. Chiune Sugihara - Japanese diplomat; saved thousands in WWII
2. Leo Tolstoy - his writing had an influence on Ghandi, MLK, and Mandela, among others
3. Mahatma Gandhi - Indian thorn-in-the-side
4. Martin Luther King Jr. - prominent nonviolent leader of American Civil Rights Movement
5. Dag Hammarskjöld - 2nd Secretary-General of the UN and the only person to be awarded a [Nobel Peace Prize](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_Peace_Prize) posthumously.
6. Lester B. Pearson - Nobel Peace Prize winner in 1957 for organizing the UN Emergency Force to resolve the Suez Canal Crisis
7. Nelson Mandela - imprisoned for 27 years but emerged, without rancor or bitterness, to lead and help unify his country
8. Mikhail Gorbachev - Introduced glasnost and granted Soviet people new freedoms, including freedom of speech.
9. Jimmy Carter – in the Camp David Accords, he worked out Middle East peace between Israel and Egypt.

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**Post date:** [June 26, 2020, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/2750 "2020-06-26T19:27:11Z")

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Noted peacemakers/diplomats, and a brief description

1. Chiune Sugihara - Japanese diplomat; saved thousands in WWII
2. Leo Tolstoy - his writing had an influence on Ghandi, MLK, and Mandela, among others
3. Mahatma Gandhi - Indian thorn-in-the-side
4. Martin Luther King Jr. - prominent nonviolent leader of American Civil Rights Movement
5. Dag Hammarskjöld - 2nd Secretary-General of the UN and the only person to be awarded a [Nobel Peace Prize](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_Peace_Prize) posthumously.
6. Lester B. Pearson - Nobel Peace Prize winner in 1957 for organizing the UN Emergency Force to resolve the Suez Canal Crisis
7. Nelson Mandela - imprisoned for 27 years but emerged, without rancor or bitterness, to lead and help unify his country
8. Mikhail Gorbachev - Introduced glasnost and granted Soviet people new freedoms, including freedom of speech.
9. Jimmy Carter – in the Camp David Accords, he worked out Middle East peace between Israel and Egypt.  
10 Adlai Stevenson II - US ambassador to the United Nations. Known for role in the Cuban Missile Crisis (he challenged USSR representative Zorin to answer “Yes or No” to the question of Soviet missiles in Cuba).

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2020, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/2751 "2020-06-26T20:00:11Z")

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Noted peacemakers/diplomats, and a brief description

1. Chiune Sugihara - Japanese diplomat; saved thousands in WWII
2. Leo Tolstoy - his writing had an influence on Ghandi, MLK, and Mandela, among others
3. Mahatma Gandhi - Indian thorn-in-the-side
4. Martin Luther King Jr. - prominent nonviolent leader of American Civil Rights Movement
5. Dag Hammarskjöld - 2nd Secretary-General of the UN and the only person to be awarded a [Nobel Peace Prize](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_Peace_Prize) posthumously.
6. Lester B. Pearson - Nobel Peace Prize winner in 1957 for organizing the UN Emergency Force to resolve the Suez Canal Crisis
7. Nelson Mandela - imprisoned for 27 years but emerged, without rancor or bitterness, to lead and help unify his country
8. Mikhail Gorbachev - Introduced glasnost and granted Soviet people new freedoms, including freedom of speech.
9. Jimmy Carter – in the Camp David Accords, he worked out Middle East peace between Israel and Egypt.
10. Adlai Stevenson II - US ambassador to the United Nations. Known for role in the Cuban Missile Crisis (he challenged USSR representative Zorin to answer “Yes or No” to the question of Soviet missiles in Cuba).
11. Klemens von Metternich - Austrian diplomat; had his flaws, but staved off war longer than anyone thought possible in Western Europe

> **[Klemens von Metternich](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klemens_von_Metternich)**
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> Klemens Wenzel Nepomuk Lothar, Prince of Metternich-Winneburg zu Beilstein\[nb 1\] (15 May 1773 – 11 June 1859), known as Klemens von Metternich or Prince Metternich, was a conservative Austrian statesman and diplomat who was at the center of the European balance of power known as the Concert of Europe for three decades as the Austrian Empire's foreign minister from 1809 and Chancellor from 1821 until the liberal Revolutions of 1848 forced his resi...

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Noted peacemakers/diplomats, and a brief description

1. Chiune Sugihara - Japanese diplomat; saved thousands in WWII
2. Leo Tolstoy - his writing had an influence on Ghandi, MLK, and Mandela, among others
3. Mahatma Gandhi - Indian thorn-in-the-side
4. Martin Luther King Jr. - prominent nonviolent leader of American Civil Rights Movement
5. Dag Hammarskjöld - 2nd Secretary-General of the UN and the only person to be awarded a [Nobel Peace Prize](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_Peace_Prize) posthumously.
6. Lester B. Pearson - Nobel Peace Prize winner in 1957 for organizing the UN Emergency Force to resolve the Suez Canal Crisis
7. Nelson Mandela - imprisoned for 27 years but emerged, without rancor or bitterness, to lead and help unify his country
8. Mikhail Gorbachev - Introduced glasnost and granted Soviet people new freedoms, including freedom of speech.
9. Jimmy Carter – in the Camp David Accords, he worked out Middle East peace between Israel and Egypt.
10. Adlai Stevenson II - US ambassador to the United Nations. Known for role in the Cuban Missile Crisis (he challenged USSR representative Zorin to answer “Yes or No” to the question of Soviet missiles in Cuba).
11. Klemens von Metternich - Austrian diplomat; had his flaws, but staved off war longer than anyone thought possible in Western Europe
12. John Adams – President #2, he served as the Commissioner to France, and the Ambassador to the Dutch Republic.

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**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/2753 "2020-06-27T02:56:32Z")

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Noted peacemakers/diplomats, and a brief description

1. Chiune Sugihara - Japanese diplomat; saved thousands in WWII
2. Leo Tolstoy - his writing had an influence on Ghandi, MLK, and Mandela, among others
3. Mahatma Gandhi - Indian thorn-in-the-side
4. Martin Luther King Jr. - prominent nonviolent leader of American Civil Rights Movement
5. Dag Hammarskjöld - 2nd Secretary-General of the UN and the only person to be awarded a [Nobel Peace Prize](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_Peace_Prize) posthumously.
6. Lester B. Pearson - Nobel Peace Prize winner in 1957 for organizing the UN Emergency Force to resolve the Suez Canal Crisis
7. Nelson Mandela - imprisoned for 27 years but emerged, without rancor or bitterness, to lead and help unify his country
8. Mikhail Gorbachev - Introduced glasnost and granted Soviet people new freedoms, including freedom of speech.
9. Jimmy Carter – in the Camp David Accords, he worked out Middle East peace between Israel and Egypt.
10. Adlai Stevenson II - US ambassador to the United Nations. Known for role in the Cuban Missile Crisis (he challenged USSR representative Zorin to answer “Yes or No” to the question of Soviet missiles in Cuba).
11. Klemens von Metternich - Austrian diplomat; had his flaws, but staved off war longer than anyone thought possible in Western Europe
12. John Adams – President #2, he served as the Commissioner to France, and the Ambassador to the Dutch Republic.
13. Llewellyn Thompson – US Ambassador to USSR, persuaded Kennedy to back down, averting the Cuban missile crisis.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/2754 "2020-06-27T04:20:03Z")

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I think that’s a misinterpretation of Thompson’s role on EXCOMM, and the Cuban Missile Crisis was well underway by then in any event. But he was certainly a peacemaker by nature: [Llewellyn Thompson - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Llewellyn_Thompson)

Pass, since this was my category.

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**Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/2755 "2020-06-27T04:47:34Z")

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I was thinking of putting in Madeleine Albright as #13 a little while ago, but got sidetracked. So here’s a new category

A person named X is quite possibly from Y: typical names in regions or countries

1. Llewellyn - Wales

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**Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/2756 "2020-06-27T04:49:40Z")

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A person named X is quite possibly from Y: typical names in regions or countries

1. Llewellyn - Wales
2. Marchand - France

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/2757 "2020-06-27T05:01:32Z")

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A person named X is quite possibly from Y: typical names in regions or countries

1. Llewellyn - Wales
2. Marchand - France
3. Giovanni — Italy

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**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/2758 "2020-06-27T10:45:06Z")

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A person named X is quite possibly from Y: typical names in regions or countries

1. Llewellyn - Wales
2. Marchand - France
3. Giovanni — Italy
4. Ian/Heather McDonald - Nova Scotia

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/2759 "2020-06-27T13:52:42Z")

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A person named X is quite possibly from Y: typical names in regions or countries

```
1) Llewellyn - Wales
2) Marchand - France
3) Giovanni — Italy
4) Ian/Heather McDonald - Nova Scotia
5) Stoltzfus - Lancaster, Pennsylvania (Amish Country)
```

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**Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/2760 "2020-06-27T14:00:10Z")

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A person named X is quite possibly from Y: typical names in regions or countries

```auto
1) Llewellyn - Wales
2) Marchand - France
3) Giovanni — Italy
4) Ian/Heather McDonald - Nova Scotia
5) Stoltzfus - Lancaster, Pennsylvania (Amish Country)
6) Hamish - Scotland
```

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