# Baker's Dozen II (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [January 25, 2020, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938 "2020-01-25T03:38:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/3281 "2020-08-19T14:39:07Z")

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Presidential election losers who just might’ve been better than the guy who beat 'em (and the year)

1. John Adams (1800)
2. Hillary Clinton (2016)
3. Al Gore (2000)
4. Thomas Jefferson (1796)
5. John C. Fremont (1856)
6. Adlai Stevenson (1952, 1956)
7. Hubert Humphrey (1968)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/3282 "2020-08-19T14:50:25Z")

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Presidential election losers who just might’ve been better than the guy who beat 'em (and the year)

1. John Adams (1800)
2. Hillary Clinton (2016)
3. Al Gore (2000)
4. Thomas Jefferson (1796)
5. John C. Fremont (1856)
6. Adlai Stevenson (1952, 1956)
7. Hubert Humphrey (1968)
8. George McGovern (1972)

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**Author:** ![Bayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bayaker/32/3454_2.png) [@Bayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bayaker)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/3283 "2020-08-19T16:38:12Z")

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Presidential election losers who just might’ve been better than the guy who beat 'em (and the year)

1. John Adams (1800)
2. Hillary Clinton (2016)
3. Al Gore (2000)
4. Thomas Jefferson (1796)
5. John C. Fremont (1856)
6. Adlai Stevenson (1952, 1956)
7. Hubert Humphrey (1968)
8. George McGovern (1972)
9. Barry Goldwater (1964)

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**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/3284 "2020-08-19T17:58:40Z")

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Presidential election losers who just might’ve been better than the guy who beat 'em (and the year)

1. John Adams (1800)
2. Hillary Clinton (2016)
3. Al Gore (2000)
4. Thomas Jefferson (1796)
5. John C. Fremont (1856)
6. Adlai Stevenson (1952, 1956)
7. Hubert Humphrey (1968)
8. George McGovern (1972)
9. Barry Goldwater (1964)
10. Theodore Roosevelt (1912)

Actually I think that both losing candidates that year were better than the winner.

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/3285 "2020-08-19T21:52:54Z")

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Presidential election losers who just might’ve been better than the guy who beat 'em (and the year)

1. John Adams (1800)
2. Hillary Clinton (2016)
3. Al Gore (2000)
4. Thomas Jefferson (1796)
5. John C. Fremont (1856)
6. Adlai Stevenson (1952, 1956)
7. Hubert Humphrey (1968)
8. George McGovern (1972)
9. Barry Goldwater (1964)
10. Theodore Roosevelt (1912)
11. John Kerry (2004)

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 19, 2020, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/3286 "2020-08-19T23:10:56Z")

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Presidential election losers who just might’ve been better than the guy who beat 'em (and the year)

1. John Adams (1800)
2. Hillary Clinton (2016)
3. Al Gore (2000)
4. Thomas Jefferson (1796)
5. John C. Fremont (1856)
6. Adlai Stevenson (1952, 1956)
7. Hubert Humphrey (1968)
8. George McGovern (1972)
9. Barry Goldwater (1964)
10. Theodore Roosevelt (1912)
11. John Kerry (2004)
12. Michael Dukakis (1988)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2020, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/3287 "2020-08-20T13:49:35Z")

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Presidential election losers who just might’ve been better than the guy who beat 'em (and the year)

1. John Adams (1800)
2. Hillary Clinton (2016)
3. Al Gore (2000)
4. Thomas Jefferson (1796)
5. John C. Fremont (1856)
6. Adlai Stevenson (1952, 1956)
7. Hubert Humphrey (1968)
8. George McGovern (1972)
9. Barry Goldwater (1964)
10. Theodore Roosevelt (1912)
11. John Kerry (2004)
12. Michael Dukakis (1988)
13. Winfield Scott Hancock (1880)

I worked on the Dukakis campaign, as it happens.

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**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/3288 "2020-08-21T01:05:13Z")

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Elendil\_s\_Heir, my husband spent a week in Boston in 2012 and when riding the T heard someone say “when you ran for President”, turned around and saw people talking to Dukakis. Hubby introduced himself, said he was from NYC and Dukakis told him “I ride the T and walk home, but when your mayor (Bloomberg) rides the subway, his SUV is waiting for him at the station.”

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Names (formal and / or colloquial) of public transport systems in cities around the world

1. MBTA / "the **T**", Boston

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**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/3289 "2020-08-21T02:55:19Z")

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Names (formal and / or colloquial) of public transport systems in cities around the world

1. MBTA / "the **T**", Boston
2. Choob - London

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 10:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/3290 "2020-08-21T10:42:08Z")

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Names (formal and / or colloquial) of public transport systems in cities around the world

1. MBTA / "the **T**", Boston
2. Choob - London
3. IRT, IND, BMT - New York City

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 11:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/3291 "2020-08-21T11:32:51Z")

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Names (formal and / or colloquial) of public transport systems in cities around the world

1. MBTA / "the **T**", Boston
2. Choob - London
3. IRT, IND, BMT - New York City
4. IndyGo - Indianapolis

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/3292 "2020-08-21T13:29:32Z")

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> [@gkster](#):
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> Elendil\_s\_Heir, my husband spent a week in Boston in 2012 and when riding the T heard someone say “when you ran for President”, turned around and saw people talking to Dukakis. Hubby introduced himself, said he was from NYC and Dukakis told him “I ride the T and walk home, but when your mayor (Bloomberg) rides the subway, his SUV is waiting for him at the station.” …

Nice story - thanks. I’d read that about Bloomberg, too.

Names (formal and / or colloquial) of public transport systems in cities around the world

1. MBTA / "the **T**", Boston
2. Choob - London
3. IRT, IND, BMT - New York City
4. IndyGo - Indianapolis
5. BART (Bay Area Rapid Transit) - San Francisco

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**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/3293 "2020-08-21T16:39:19Z")

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Names (formal and / or colloquial) of public transport systems in cities around the world

1. MBTA / "the **T**", Boston
2. Choob - London
3. IRT, IND, BMT - New York City
4. IndyGo - Indianapolis
5. BART (Bay Area Rapid Transit) - San Francisco
6. Subte - Buenos Aires

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/3294 "2020-08-21T18:50:05Z")

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Names (formal and / or colloquial) of public transport systems in cities around the world

1. MBTA / "the **T**", Boston
2. Choob - London
3. IRT, IND, BMT - New York City
4. IndyGo - Indianapolis
5. BART (Bay Area Rapid Transit) - San Francisco
6. Subte - Buenos Aires
7. Métro - Paris

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2020, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/3295 "2020-08-21T19:47:36Z")

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Names (formal and / or colloquial) of public transport systems in cities around the world

1. MBTA / "the **T**", Boston
2. Choob - London
3. IRT, IND, BMT - New York City
4. IndyGo - Indianapolis
5. BART (Bay Area Rapid Transit) - San Francisco
6. Subte - Buenos Aires
7. Métro - Paris
8. Metro - Moscow

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**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2020, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/3296 "2020-08-22T01:22:12Z")

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Names (formal and / or colloquial) of public transport systems in cities around the world

1. MBTA / "the **T**", Boston
2. Choob - London
3. IRT, IND, BMT - New York City
4. IndyGo - Indianapolis
5. BART (Bay Area Rapid Transit) - San Francisco
6. Subte - Buenos Aires
7. Métro - Paris
8. Metro - Moscow
9. Metro / Métro - Montreal

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**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2020, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/3297 "2020-08-22T03:11:42Z")

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Names (formal and / or colloquial) of public transport systems in cities around the world

1. MBTA / "the **T**", Boston
2. Choob - London
3. IRT, IND, BMT - New York City
4. IndyGo - Indianapolis
5. BART (Bay Area Rapid Transit) - San Francisco
6. Subte - Buenos Aires
7. Métro - Paris
8. Metro - Moscow
9. Metro / Métro - Montreal
10. L - Chicago

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2020, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/3298 "2020-08-22T03:17:32Z")

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Names (formal and / or colloquial) of public transport systems in cities around the world

1. MBTA / "the **T**", Boston
2. Choob - London
3. IRT, IND, BMT - New York City
4. IndyGo - Indianapolis
5. BART (Bay Area Rapid Transit) - San Francisco
6. Subte - Buenos Aires
7. Métro - Paris
8. Metro - Moscow
9. Metro / Métro - Montreal
10. L - Chicago
11. C-Train - Calgary

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2020, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/3299 "2020-08-22T04:44:11Z")

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Names (formal and / or colloquial) of public transport systems in cities around the world

1. MBTA / "the **T**", Boston
2. Choob - London
3. IRT, IND, BMT - New York City
4. IndyGo - Indianapolis
5. BART (Bay Area Rapid Transit) - San Francisco
6. Subte - Buenos Aires
7. Métro - Paris
8. Metro - Moscow
9. Metro / Métro - Montreal
10. L - Chicago
11. C-Train - Calgary
12. Subway - Beijing

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**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2020, 10:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/3300 "2020-08-22T10:05:18Z")

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Names (formal and / or colloquial) of public transport systems in cities around the world

1. MBTA / "the **T**", Boston
2. Choob - London
3. IRT, IND, BMT - New York City
4. IndyGo - Indianapolis
5. BART (Bay Area Rapid Transit) - San Francisco
6. Subte - Buenos Aires
7. Métro - Paris
8. Metro - Moscow
9. Metro / Métro - Montreal
10. L - Chicago
11. C-Train - Calgary
12. Subway - Beijing
13. Subway - Glasgow

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