# Baker's Dozen II (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [January 25, 2020, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938 "2020-01-25T03:38:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Holiday foods from around the world; holiday repeats allowed**

1. latkes for Hanukkah
2. fruitcakes for Christmas (although there are those that deny fruitcakes are meant to be eaten)
3. pickled herring for New Year’s Eve
4. corned beef & cabbage for New Year’s Day
5. Kransekake - Christmas, usually
6. Hamantaschen for Purim
7. Grilled hot dogs and burgers for Labor Day
8. Pfeffernüsse for Christmas
9. Suman ibus, in Zamboanga, for New Years
10. Turkey and all the trimmings, for an American Thanksgiving
11. Sufganiyot, in Israel, for Hanukkah
12. Danish æbleskivers for Christmas
13. Lamb chops and pecan pie for Festivus

**Characters from Dickens’ _A Christmas Carol_**

1. Jacob Marley

He was dead to begin with, dead as a doornail.

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**Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/4463 "2020-12-22T14:45:16Z")

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**Characters from Dickens’ _A Christmas Carol_**

1. Jacob Marley
2. Mr. Fezziwig

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**Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/4464 "2020-12-22T15:13:35Z")

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**Characters from Dickens’ _A Christmas Carol_**

1. Jacob Marley
2. Mr. Fezziwig
3. Ebenezer Scrooge

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**Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/4465 "2020-12-22T15:18:23Z")

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**Characters from Dickens’ _A Christmas Carol_**

1. Jacob Marley
2. Mr. Fezziwig
3. Ebenezer Scrooge
4. Fred, Scrooge’s nephew

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**Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/4466 "2020-12-22T16:18:29Z")

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**Characters from Dickens’ _A Christmas Carol_**

1. Jacob Marley
2. Mr. Fezziwig
3. Ebenezer Scrooge
4. Fred, Scrooge’s nephew
5. Bob Cratchit

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/4467 "2020-12-22T16:43:16Z")

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**Characters from Dickens’ _A Christmas Carol_**

1. Jacob Marley
2. Mr. Fezziwig
3. Ebenezer Scrooge
4. Fred, Scrooge’s nephew
5. Bob Cratchit
6. Emily Cratchit, his wife

Just looked it up - never knew Dickens gave her a first name!

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**Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/4468 "2020-12-22T17:07:32Z")

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**Characters from Dickens’ _A Christmas Carol_**

1. Jacob Marley
2. Mr. Fezziwig
3. Ebenezer Scrooge
4. Fred, Scrooge’s nephew
5. Bob Cratchit
6. Emily Cratchit, his wife
7. Tiny Tim Cratchit

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**Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/4469 "2020-12-22T17:31:56Z")

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**Characters from Dickens’ _A Christmas Carol_**

1. Jacob Marley
2. Mr. Fezziwig
3. Ebenezer Scrooge
4. Fred, Scrooge’s nephew
5. Bob Cratchit
6. Emily Cratchit, his wife
7. Tiny Tim Cratchit
8. Ghost of Christmas Past

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**Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/4470 "2020-12-22T22:22:44Z")

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**Characters from Dickens’ _A Christmas Carol_**

1. Jacob Marley
2. Mr. Fezziwig
3. Ebenezer Scrooge
4. Fred, Scrooge’s nephew
5. Bob Cratchit
6. Emily Cratchit, his wife
7. Tiny Tim Cratchit
8. Ghost of Christmas Past
9. Ghost of Christmas Present

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/4471 "2020-12-22T22:44:06Z")

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**Characters from Dickens’ _A Christmas Carol_**

1. Jacob Marley
2. Mr. Fezziwig
3. Ebenezer Scrooge
4. Fred, Scrooge’s nephew
5. Bob Cratchit
6. Emily Cratchit, his wife
7. Tiny Tim Cratchit
8. Ghost of Christmas Past
9. Ghost of Christmas Present
10. Dick Wilkins

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**Post date:** [December 22, 2020, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/4472 "2020-12-22T23:06:23Z")

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**Characters from Dickens’ _A Christmas Carol_**

1. Jacob Marley
2. Mr. Fezziwig
3. Ebenezer Scrooge
4. Fred, Scrooge’s nephew
5. Bob Cratchit
6. Emily Cratchit, his wife
7. Tiny Tim Cratchit
8. Ghost of Christmas Past
9. Ghost of Christmas Present
10. Dick Wilkins
11. Ghost of Christmas Yet to Come

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**Post date:** [December 23, 2020, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/4473 "2020-12-23T01:50:40Z")

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**Characters from Dickens’ _A Christmas Carol_**

1. Jacob Marley
2. Mr. Fezziwig
3. Ebenezer Scrooge
4. Fred, Scrooge’s nephew
5. Bob Cratchit
6. Emily Cratchit, his wife
7. Tiny Tim Cratchit
8. Ghost of Christmas Past
9. Ghost of Christmas Present
10. Dick Wilkins
11. Ghost of Christmas Yet to Come
12. Old Joe _(the pawnbroker who buys the things pilfered from Scrooge’s bedchamber)_

_ **-“BB”-** _

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**Post date:** [December 23, 2020, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/4474 "2020-12-23T02:44:34Z")

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**Characters from Dickens’ _A Christmas Carol_**

1. Jacob Marley
2. Mr. Fezziwig
3. Ebenezer Scrooge
4. Fred, Scrooge’s nephew
5. Bob Cratchit
6. Emily Cratchit, his wife
7. Tiny Tim Cratchit
8. Ghost of Christmas Past
9. Ghost of Christmas Present
10. Dick Wilkins
11. Ghost of Christmas Yet to Come
12. Old Joe \*\<
13. The street boy who was sent to fetch the turkey and deliver it to Cratchets

Pass

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**Post date:** [December 23, 2020, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/4475 "2020-12-23T02:49:36Z")

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Words that are near-cognates in nearly all languages, with notable exceptions

1. television – German, fernsehen

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**Post date:** [December 23, 2020, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/4476 "2020-12-23T03:00:50Z")

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Words that are near-cognates in nearly all languages, with notable exceptions

1. television – German, fernsehen
2. coffee

**Afrikaans** : koffie | **Albanian** : kafe | **Arabic** : قهوة (qahua) | **French** : Café | **Azerbaijani** : qəhvə | **Basque** : kafea | **Belarussian** : кава (kava) | **Bengali** : কফি (kaphi) | **Bosnian** : kafa | **Bulgarian** : кафе (kafe) | **Catalan** : cafè | **Cebuano** : kape | **Chichewa** : khofi | **Chinese** : 咖啡 (Kāfēi) | **Corsican** : caffè | **Croatian** : kava | **Czech** : káva | **Danish** : kaffe | **Dutch** : koffie | **Italian** : caffè | **German** : Kaffee | **Thai** : กาแฟ (Kāfæ) | **Sawahili** : kahawa | **Spanish** : café | **Portuguese** : café | **Turkish** : kahveh | **Croatian** : kava | **Lithuanian** : kava | **Polish** : kawa (kava) | **Slovakian** : kava | **Ukrainian** : kavy or kava | **Georgian** : qava | **Hungarian** : kavé | **Serbian** : kafa | **Slovenian** : kave | **Yiddish** : kave | **Filipino** / **Tagalog** : kape | **Hawaiian** : kope | **Indonesian** : kopi | **Korean** : keopi | **Malay** : kawah or koppi | **Sinhalese** (Sri Lanka): kopi | **Tamil** (Sri Lanka): kapi-kottai or kopi.

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**Post date:** [December 23, 2020, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/4477 "2020-12-23T03:47:14Z")

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What’s the “notable exception” for coffee?

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**Post date:** [December 23, 2020, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/4478 "2020-12-23T14:37:18Z")

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Sorry. Javanese - “warung”

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**Post date:** [December 23, 2020, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/4479 "2020-12-23T15:21:08Z")

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Words that are near-cognates in nearly all languages, with notable exceptions

1. television – German, _fernsehen_
2. coffee – Javanese - _warung_
3. soccer/football - Italian - _calcio_

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**Post date:** [December 23, 2020, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/4480 "2020-12-23T19:35:06Z")

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Words that are near-cognates in nearly all languages, with notable exceptions

1. television – German, _fernsehen_
2. coffee – Javanese - _warung_
3. soccer/football - Italian - _calcio_
4. salt - Welsh, _halen_

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Words that are near-cognates in nearly all languages, with notable exceptions

1. television – German, _fernsehen_
2. coffee – Javanese, _warung_
3. soccer/football - Italian, _calcio_
4. salt - Welsh, _halen_
5. taxi(cab) - Norwegian, _drosje_

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