# Baker's Dozen II (Part 1)

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**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [January 25, 2020, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938 "2020-01-25T03:38:46Z")\
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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2021, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5184 "2021-03-12T18:25:35Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
>
> …10. Sir Bedivere

“…and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana-shaped.”

**Knights of the Round Table**

1. Sir Lancelot du Lac
2. Sir Gawain
3. Sir Pellinore
4. Yvain the Bastard
5. Sir Tristram
6. Sir Galahad
7. Sir Gaheris
8. Sir Percival
9. Sir Bors the Younger
10. Sir Bedivere
11. Sir Gareth

The Kitchen Knight, in some tellings of the Arthurian tales.

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**Author:** ![Bicycle\_Bill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bicycle_bill/32/6208_2.png) [@Bicycle\_Bill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bicycle_Bill)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2021, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5185 "2021-03-12T23:29:36Z")

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**Knights of the Round Table**

1. Sir Lancelot du Lac
2. Sir Gawain
3. Sir Pellinore
4. Yvain the Bastard
5. Sir Tristram
6. Sir Galahad
7. Sir Gaheris
8. Sir Percival
9. Sir Bors the Younger
10. Sir Bedivere
11. Sir Gareth
12. Arthur Pendragon _(the first among equals)_

_ **-“BB”-** _

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2021, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5186 "2021-03-13T01:10:40Z")

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**Knights of the Round Table**

1. Sir Lancelot du Lac
2. Sir Gawain
3. Sir Pellinore
4. Yvain the Bastard
5. Sir Tristram
6. Sir Galahad
7. Sir Gaheris
8. Sir Percival
9. Sir Bors the Younger
10. Sir Bedivere
11. Sir Gareth
12. Arthur Pendragon _(the first among equals)_
13. Sir Esclabor

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Hey Professor, I missed your new category! The world order has been restored.

**Boats / ships / vessels you’ve been on**

1. My friend’s speed boat, on Lake Don Pedro, CA.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2021, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5187 "2021-03-13T01:12:22Z")

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**Boats / ships / vessels you’ve been on**

1. My friend’s speed boat, on Lake Don Pedro, CA.
2. USS Constitution

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**Author:** ![FastDan1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fastdan1/32/427_2.png) [@FastDan1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FastDan1)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2021, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5188 "2021-03-13T01:32:38Z")

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**Boats / ships / vessels you’ve been on**

1. My friend’s speed boat, on Lake Don Pedro, CA.
2. USS Constitution
3. USS Lexington - Retired. Currently a museum in Corpus Christi, TX

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**Author:** ![Bicycle\_Bill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bicycle_bill/32/6208_2.png) [@Bicycle\_Bill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bicycle_Bill)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2021, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5189 "2021-03-13T01:58:04Z")

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**Boats / ships / vessels you’ve been on**

1. My friend’s speed boat, on Lake Don Pedro, CA.
2. USS Constitution
3. USS Lexington - Retired. Currently a museum in Corpus Christi, TX
4. The Julia Belle Swain, authentic steam-powered stern-wheel packet on the Upper Mississippi River _(currently undergoing restoration in La Crosse WI)_

_ **-“BB”-** _

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**Author:** ![Bayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bayaker/32/3454_2.png) [@Bayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bayaker)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2021, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5190 "2021-03-13T02:40:08Z")

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**Boats / ships / vessels you’ve been on**

1. My friend’s speed boat, on Lake Don Pedro, CA.
2. USS Constitution
3. USS Lexington - Retired. Currently a museum in Corpus Christi, TX
4. The Julia Belle Swain, authentic steam-powered stern-wheel packet on the Upper Mississippi River
5. The USS Constellation, in Baltimore Harbor, the last sail-only warship of the US Navy

I’ve been on the Lexington too.

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**Author:** ![Bicycle\_Bill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bicycle_bill/32/6208_2.png) [@Bicycle\_Bill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bicycle_Bill)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2021, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5191 "2021-03-13T03:04:31Z")

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To clarify a point — the USS _Constellation_ was the last sail-only warship **BUILT** (between 1853 and 1855) for the US Navy. It was struck from the Navy rolls and decommissioned originally in 1864, but went through several cycles of reactivation and decommissioning over the next ninety years, when she was decommissioned for the final time and struck from the Navy rolls in 1955.

The USS _Constitution_ is also sail-only, but was built between 1794 and 1797. However, since the USS _Constitution_ is **still** in commission and carried on the Navy rolls, she could make a valid claim that, by being _ **STILL ACTIVE AND IN COMMISSION** _, SHE is technically the last sail-only warship of the US Navy, to go along with her title as the oldest commissioned naval vessel in the world still afloat.

_ **-“BB”-** _

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**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2021, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5192 "2021-03-13T03:06:48Z")

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**Boats / ships / vessels you’ve been on**

1. My friend’s speed boat, on Lake Don Pedro, CA.
2. USS Constitution
3. USS Lexington - Retired. Currently a museum in Corpus Christi, TX
4. The Julia Belle Swain, authentic steam-powered stern-wheel packet on the Upper Mississippi River
5. The USS Constellation, in Baltimore Harbor, the last sail-only warship of the US Navy
6. L’Austral - small ship/mega yacht

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2021, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5193 "2021-03-13T03:25:21Z")

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**Boats / ships / vessels you’ve been on**

1. My friend’s speed boat, on Lake Don Pedro, CA.
2. USS Constitution
3. USS Lexington - Retired. Currently a museum in Corpus Christi, TX
4. The Julia Belle Swain, authentic steam-powered stern-wheel packet on the Upper Mississippi River
5. The USS Constellation, in Baltimore Harbor, the last sail-only warship of the US Navy
6. L’Austral - small ship/mega yacht
7. MV Joseph and Clara Smallwood, the ferry that ran between Nova Scotia and Newfoundland, in Canada.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2021, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5194 "2021-03-13T14:34:50Z")

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**Boats / ships / vessels you’ve been on**

1. My friend’s speed boat, on Lake Don Pedro, CA.
2. USS Constitution
3. USS Lexington - Retired. Currently a museum in Corpus Christi, TX
4. The Julia Belle Swain, authentic steam-powered stern-wheel packet on the Upper Mississippi River
5. The USS Constellation, in Baltimore Harbor, the last sail-only warship of the US Navy
6. L’Austral - small ship/mega yacht
7. MV Joseph and Clara Smallwood, the ferry that ran between Nova Scotia and Newfoundland, in Canada.
8. USS Cavalla - Seawolf Park, Galveston, Texas

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**Author:** ![Bayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bayaker/32/3454_2.png) [@Bayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bayaker)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2021, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5195 "2021-03-13T15:29:01Z")

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**Boats / ships / vessels you’ve been on**

1. My friend’s speed boat, on Lake Don Pedro, CA.
2. USS Constitution
3. USS Lexington - Retired. Currently a museum in Corpus Christi, TX
4. The Julia Belle Swain, authentic steam-powered stern-wheel packet on the Upper Mississippi River
5. The USS Constellation, in Baltimore Harbor, the last sail-only warship built by the Navy
6. L’Austral - small ship/mega yacht
7. MV Joseph and Clara Smallwood, the ferry that ran between Nova Scotia and Newfoundland, in Canada.
8. USS Cavalla - Seawolf Park, Galveston, Texas
9. Battleship Texas - next to the San Jacinto Battleground\*, La Porte, Texas

It was hauled away last year for extensive repairs and may or may not return to the same location.

Also amended #5 per Bicycle\_Bill’s clarification.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2021, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5196 "2021-03-13T15:54:27Z")

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**Boats / ships / vessels you’ve been on**

1. My friend’s speed boat, on Lake Don Pedro, CA.
2. USS Constitution
3. USS Lexington - Retired. Currently a museum in Corpus Christi, TX
4. The Julia Belle Swain, authentic steam-powered stern-wheel packet on the Upper Mississippi River
5. The USS Constellation, in Baltimore Harbor, the last sail-only warship built by the Navy
6. L’Austral - small ship/mega yacht
7. MV Joseph and Clara Smallwood, the ferry that ran between Nova Scotia and Newfoundland, in Canada.
8. USS Cavalla - Seawolf Park, Galveston, Texas
9. Battleship Texas - next to the San Jacinto Battleground\*, La Porte, Texas
10. Amistad - replica slave ship

> **[La Amistad | Replica](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Amistad#Replica)**
>
> Between 1998 and 2000, artisans at Mystic Seaport, Mystic, Connecticut, built a replica of La Amistad, using traditional skills and construction techniques common to wooden schooners built in the 19th century, but using modern materials and engines. Officially named Amistad, it was promoted as "Freedom Schooner Amistad". The modern-day ship is not an exact replica of La Amistad, as it is slightly longer and has higher freeboard. There were no old blueprints of the original.
> The new schooner was ...

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2021, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5197 "2021-03-13T22:05:46Z")

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**Boats / ships / vessels you’ve been on**

1. My friend’s speed boat, on Lake Don Pedro, CA.
2. USS Constitution
3. USS Lexington - Retired. Currently a museum in Corpus Christi, TX
4. The Julia Belle Swain, authentic steam-powered stern-wheel packet on the Upper Mississippi River
5. The USS Constellation, in Baltimore Harbor, the last sail-only warship built by the Navy
6. L’Austral - small ship/mega yacht
7. MV Joseph and Clara Smallwood, the ferry that ran between Nova Scotia and Newfoundland, in Canada.
8. USS Cavalla - Seawolf Park, Galveston, Texas
9. Battleship Texas - next to the San Jacinto Battleground\*, La Porte, Texas
10. Amistad - replica slave ship
11. USS _Hornet_, CV-12, Sea, Air & Space Museum; Alameda CA

My father in law volunteers there.

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**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2021, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5198 "2021-03-14T02:25:35Z")

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**Boats / ships / vessels you’ve been on**

1. My friend’s speed boat, on Lake Don Pedro, CA.
2. USS Constitution
3. USS Lexington - Retired. Currently a museum in Corpus Christi, TX
4. The Julia Belle Swain, authentic steam-powered stern-wheel packet on the Upper Mississippi River
5. The USS Constellation, in Baltimore Harbor, the last sail-only warship built by the Navy
6. L’Austral - small ship/mega yacht
7. MV Joseph and Clara Smallwood, the ferry that ran between Nova Scotia and Newfoundland, in Canada.
8. USS Cavalla - Seawolf Park, Galveston, Texas
9. Battleship Texas - next to the San Jacinto Battleground\*, La Porte, Texas
10. Amistad - replica slave ship
11. USS _Hornet_ , CV-12, Sea, Air & Space Museum; Alameda CA
12. Draken Harald Hårfagre

A replica Viking ship that sailed from Norway to Canada in 2016; I went on board when it was on display at the Toronto waterfront

> **['Cold, wet, icy': Viking ship visits Toronto after gruelling voyage across...](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/viking-ship-redpath-1.3661564)**
>
> A floating museum is awaiting visitors to Toronto's harbour this weekend — an enormous replica of a Viking ship that sailed across the North Atlantic following the same route the Vikings took more than a thousand years ago.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2021, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5199 "2021-03-14T03:37:12Z")

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**Boats / ships / vessels you’ve been on**

1. My friend’s speed boat, on Lake Don Pedro, CA.
2. USS Constitution
3. USS Lexington - Retired. Currently a museum in Corpus Christi, TX
4. The Julia Belle Swain, authentic steam-powered stern-wheel packet on the Upper Mississippi River
5. The USS Constellation, in Baltimore Harbor, the last sail-only warship built by the Navy
6. L’Austral - small ship/mega yacht
7. MV Joseph and Clara Smallwood, the ferry that ran between Nova Scotia and Newfoundland, in Canada.
8. USS Cavalla - Seawolf Park, Galveston, Texas
9. Battleship Texas - next to the San Jacinto Battleground\*, La Porte, Texas
10. Amistad - replica slave ship
11. USS _Hornet_ , CV-12, Sea, Air & Space Museum; Alameda CA
12. Draken Harald Hårfagre
13. [USS Niagara (1813) - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Niagara_(1813))

Next up:

**Aircraft you’ve been aboard other than commercial jetliners**

1. [Bell Boeing V-22 Osprey - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_Boeing_V-22_Osprey)

Walked through one on the ground at a USMC community-outreach event.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2021, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5200 "2021-03-14T03:43:15Z")

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**Aircraft you’ve been aboard other than commercial jetliners**

1. [Bell Boeing V-22 Osprey - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_Boeing_V-22_Osprey)
2. [Cessna 172 Skyhawk](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cessna_172)

Mu buddy was a private pilot and had one; I flew in it with him many times.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2021, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5201 "2021-03-14T04:09:13Z")

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**Aircraft you’ve been aboard other than commercial jetliners**

1. [Bell Boeing V-22 Osprey - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_Boeing_V-22_Osprey)
2. [Cessna 172 Skyhawk](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cessna_172)
3. [Schweizer S300 - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schweizer_S300)

Had two ride-alongs with my city’s police aviation unit. Once the pilot surprised me by asking where I lived, then flew there and buzzed the house. My wife and son came out and waved to us.

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2021, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5202 "2021-03-14T06:17:39Z")

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**Aircraft you’ve been aboard other than commercial jetliners**

1. [Bell Boeing V-22 Osprey - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_Boeing_V-22_Osprey)
2. [Cessna 172 Skyhawk](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cessna_172)
3. [Schweizer S300 - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schweizer_S300)
4. [Boeing Vertol CH-46 Sea Knight](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_Vertol_CH-46_Sea_Knight)

Jumped out of them when I was in the Marines. We’d rappel down from them, from about 500 feet up.

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**Author:** ![Bicycle\_Bill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bicycle_bill/32/6208_2.png) [@Bicycle\_Bill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bicycle_Bill)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2021, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5203 "2021-03-14T07:29:06Z")

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**Aircraft you’ve been aboard other than commercial jetliners**

1. [Bell Boeing V-22 Osprey - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_Boeing_V-22_Osprey)
2. [Cessna 172 Skyhawk](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cessna_172)
3. [Schweizer S300 - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schweizer_S300)
4. [Boeing Vertol CH-46 Sea Knight](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_Vertol_CH-46_Sea_Knight)
5. [Piper PA-23-250 (Aztec-D)](https://alchetron.com/cdn/piper-pa-23-f2cd5695-5ceb-43d4-8f09-337dd555629-resize-750.jpeg)

Flew the right-hand seat on a cross-country flight from LSE to LOU in 1970 as part of an Eagle Scout “Career Day” … at that time, before I realized just how shitty my eyes were, I had wanted to become a pilot and was partnered up with a local GA operator. Imagine my surprise when he asked me if I’d like to take an airplane ride, and then found out we were doing a (roughly) 1000-mile round-trip delivery trip!!

And yes, I actually got to handle the controls for a bit … under the watchful eyes of the PIC who was, of course, prepared to immediately take back control if I had so much as farted at the wrong time.

_ **-“BB”-** _

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