# Baker's Dozen II (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [January 25, 2020, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938 "2020-01-25T03:38:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 266
**Author:** ![Bayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bayaker/32/3454_2.png) [@Bayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bayaker)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2021, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5304 "2021-03-27T02:04:25Z")
**Same Country, New Name** 1. Ceylon - now Sri Lanka 2. Persia - now Iran 3. Upper Volta - now Burkina Faso 4. Siam - now Thailand 5. Temasik - now Singapore 6. Zaire - now the Democratic Republic of the Congo 7. Burma - now Myanmar 8. Transjordan - now Jordan 9. Republic of Vermont - after 1791, one of the United States of America 10. Tanganyika - now Tanzania 11. Central African Empire - now Central African Republic 12. Abyssinia - now Ethiopia ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2021, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5305 "2021-03-27T04:00:40Z")
**Same Country, New Name** 1. Ceylon - now Sri Lanka 2. Persia - now Iran 3. Upper Volta - now Burkina Faso 4. Siam - now Thailand 5. Temasik - now Singapore 6. Zaire - now the Democratic Republic of the Congo 7. Burma - now Myanmar 8. Transjordan - now Jordan 9. Republic of Vermont - after 1791, one of the United States of America 10. Tanganyika - now Tanzania 11. Central African Empire - now Central African Republic 12. Abyssinia - now Ethiopia 13. Kingdom of Hawai’i - now the State of Hawaii Pass ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2021, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5306 "2021-03-27T06:30:29Z")
Well, Hawaii isn’t a country, so that doesn’t quite work, does it? Also, #9 doesn’t work for the same reason. Fixing… **Same Country, New Name** 1. Ceylon - now Sri Lanka 2. Persia - now Iran 3. Upper Volta - now Burkina Faso 4. Siam - now Thailand 5. Temasik - now Singapore 6. Zaire - now the Democratic Republic of the Congo 7. Burma - now Myanmar 8. Transjordan - now Jordan 9. Tanganyika - now Tanzania 10. Central African Empire - now Central African Republic 11. Abyssinia - now Ethiopia 12. New Hebrides — now Vanuatu ---
**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2021, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5307 "2021-03-27T07:17:02Z")
**Same Country, New Name** 1. Ceylon - now Sri Lanka 2. Persia - now Iran 3. Upper Volta - now Burkina Faso 4. Siam - now Thailand 5. Temasik - now Singapore 6. Zaire - now the Democratic Republic of the Congo 7. Burma - now Myanmar 8. Transjordan - now Jordan 9. Tanganyika - now Tanzania 10. Central African Empire - now Central African Republic 11. Abyssinia - now Ethiopia 12. New Hebrides — now Vanuatu 13. Rhodesia - now Zimbabwe New: In honor of children’s author Beverly Cleary, who just passed away aged 104 **Books you enjoyed as a child** 1. _The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe_ by C.S.Lewis ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2021, 8:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5308 "2021-03-27T08:27:41Z")
**Books you enjoyed as a child** 1. _The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe_ by C.S.Lewis 2. _The Tall Book of Make-Believe_ by Jane Werner I still have the book, a first edition. It’s become quite pricey. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2021, 10:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5309 "2021-03-27T10:25:02Z")
**Books you enjoyed as a child** 1. _The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe_ by C.S.Lewis 2. _The Tall Book of Make-Believe_ by Jane Werner 3. _Moby-Dick; or, The Whale_ by Herman Melville ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2021, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5310 "2021-03-27T12:47:14Z")
**Books you enjoyed as a child** 1. _The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe_ by C.S.Lewis 2. _The Tall Book of Make-Believe_ by Jane Werner 3. _Moby-Dick; or, The Whale_ by Herman Melville 4. _The Wizard of Oz_ by L. Frank Baum ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2021, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5311 "2021-03-27T12:51:57Z")
**Books you enjoyed as a child** 1. _The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe_ by C.S.Lewis 2. _The Tall Book of Make-Believe_ by Jane Werner 3. _Moby-Dick; or, The Whale_ by Herman Melville 4. _The Wizard of Oz_ by L. Frank Baum 5. \*Follow My Leader" by James B. Garfield ---
**Author:** ![Bayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bayaker/32/3454_2.png) [@Bayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bayaker)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2021, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5312 "2021-03-27T13:39:16Z")
**Books you enjoyed as a child** 1. _The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe_ by C.S.Lewis 2. _The Tall Book of Make-Believe_ by Jane Werner 3. _Moby-Dick; or, The Whale_ by Herman Melville 4. _The Wizard of Oz_ by L. Frank Baum 5. _Follow My Leader_ by James B. Garfield 6. _All About Dinosaurs_ by Roy Chapman Andrews ---
**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2021, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5313 "2021-03-27T15:17:02Z")
**Books you enjoyed as a child** 1. _The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe_ by C.S.Lewis 2. _The Tall Book of Make-Believe_ by Jane Werner 3. _Moby-Dick; or, The Whale_ by Herman Melville 4. _The Wizard of Oz_ by L. Frank Baum 5. _Follow My Leader_ by James B. Garfield 6. _All About Dinosaurs_ by Roy Chapman Andrews 7. _The Great Brain_ by John D. Fitzgerald ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2021, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5314 "2021-03-27T17:39:59Z")
**Books you enjoyed as a child** 1. _The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe_ by C.S.Lewis 2. _The Tall Book of Make-Believe_ by Jane Werner 3. _Moby-Dick; or, The Whale_ by Herman Melville 4. _The Wizard of Oz_ by L. Frank Baum 5. _Follow My Leader_ by James B. Garfield 6. _All About Dinosaurs_ by Roy Chapman Andrews 7. _The Great Brain_ by John D. Fitzgerald 8. _Henry Huggins_ by Beverly Cleary Rest in peace, Mrs. Cleary, and thank you for so many wonderful books! ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2021, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5315 "2021-03-27T19:17:10Z")
**Books you enjoyed as a child** 1. _The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe_ by C.S.Lewis 2. _The Tall Book of Make-Believe_ by Jane Werner 3. _Moby-Dick; or, The Whale_ by Herman Melville 4. _The Wizard of Oz_ by L. Frank Baum 5. _Follow My Leader_ by James B. Garfield 6. _All About Dinosaurs_ by Roy Chapman Andrews 7. _The Great Brain_ by John D. Fitzgerald 8. _Henry Huggins_ by Beverly Cleary 9. _The Phantom Tollbooth_ by Norton Juster Like Cleary, Juster also recently died. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2021, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5316 "2021-03-27T19:52:41Z")
**Books you enjoyed as a child** 1. _The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe_ by C.S.Lewis 2. _The Tall Book of Make-Believe_ by Jane Werner 3. _Moby-Dick; or, The Whale_ by Herman Melville 4. _The Wizard of Oz_ by L. Frank Baum 5. _Follow My Leader_ by James B. Garfield 6. _All About Dinosaurs_ by Roy Chapman Andrews 7. _The Great Brain_ by John D. Fitzgerald 8. _Henry Huggins_ by Beverly Cleary 9. _The Phantom Tollbooth_ by Norton Juster 10. _On Beyond Zebra!_ by Dr. Seuss Anything to do with the alphabet fascinated me. ---
**Author:** ![Bicycle\_Bill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bicycle_bill/32/6208_2.png) [@Bicycle\_Bill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bicycle_Bill)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2021, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5317 "2021-03-27T22:19:41Z")
**Books you enjoyed as a child** 1. _The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe_ by C.S.Lewis 2. _The Tall Book of Make-Believe_ by Jane Werner 3. _Moby-Dick; or, The Whale_ by Herman Melville 4. _The Wizard of Oz_ by L. Frank Baum 5. _Follow My Leader_ by James B. Garfield 6. _All About Dinosaurs_ by Roy Chapman Andrews 7. _The Great Brain_ by John D. Fitzgerald 8. _Henry Huggins_ by Beverly Cleary 9. _The Phantom Tollbooth_ by Norton Juster 10. _On Beyond Zebra!_ by Dr. Seuss 11. The _Bobbsey Twins_ series, by Laura Lee Hope _(I was an early reader as a child and constantly scored high on reading comprehension tests, so much so that by the time I was in 4th grade I was given carte blanche to check out any book, regardless of grade level, in the school library)_ _ **-“BB”-** _ ---
**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2021, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5318 "2021-03-28T00:21:30Z")
**Books you enjoyed as a child** 1. _The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe_ by C.S.Lewis 2. _The Tall Book of Make-Believe_ by Jane Werner 3. _Moby-Dick; or, The Whale_ by Herman Melville 4. _The Wizard of Oz_ by L. Frank Baum 5. _Follow My Leader_ by James B. Garfield 6. _All About Dinosaurs_ by Roy Chapman Andrews 7. _The Great Brain_ by John D. Fitzgerald 8. _Henry Huggins_ by Beverly Cleary 9. _The Phantom Tollbooth_ by Norton Juster 10. _On Beyond Zebra!_ by Dr. Seuss 11. The _Bobbsey Twins_ series, by Laura Lee Hope 12. _My Friend Flicka_ by Mary O’Hara @Elendil_s_Heir I was hoping that someone would post a book by Cleary; I sadly never encountered her until I was an adult. My kids liked her. @Little_Nemo thanks for mentioning Norton Juster! I found out a few years ago that he was an architect, teaching at Hampshire College which is known for its eclectic campus; here’s a building that he designed: [![](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4a/Emilydickinsonhall.jpg) ](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4a/Emilydickinsonhall.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2021, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5319 "2021-03-28T16:44:35Z")
**gkster** , yes, I particularly loved Cleary’s Henry Huggins books. As it happens, she mentioned my grandfather in a later book of hers, which pleased our family very much. **Books you enjoyed as a child** 1. _The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe_ by C.S.Lewis 2. _The Tall Book of Make-Believe_ by Jane Werner 3. _Moby-Dick; or, The Whale_ by Herman Melville 4. _The Wizard of Oz_ by L. Frank Baum 5. _Follow My Leader_ by James B. Garfield 6. _All About Dinosaurs_ by Roy Chapman Andrews 7. _The Great Brain_ by John D. Fitzgerald 8. _Henry Huggins_ by Beverly Cleary 9. _The Phantom Tollbooth_ by Norton Juster 10. _On Beyond Zebra!_ by Dr. Seuss 11. The _Bobbsey Twins_ series, by Laura Lee Hope 12. _My Friend Flicka_ by Mary O’Hara 13. _The Illustrated Man_ by Ray Bradbury Next up: **The book you’ve read recently and enjoyed the most, and a six-word description of it** 1. _The Rosie Project_ by Graeme Simsion - Genius’s plan to find perfect wife ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2021, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5320 "2021-03-28T17:05:45Z")
**The book you’ve read recently and enjoyed the most, and a six-word description of it** 1. _The Rosie Project_ by Graeme Simsion - Genius’s plan to find perfect wife 2. _The Speed of Trust_ by Stephen MR Covey — trust governs every relationship for **you** ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2021, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5321 "2021-03-28T17:56:18Z")
**The book you’ve read recently and enjoyed the most, and a six-word description of it** 1. _The Rosie Project_ by Graeme Simsion - Genius’s plan to find perfect wife 2. _The Speed of Trust_ by Stephen MR Covey — trust governs every relationship for **you** 3. _The World of Jimmy Breslin_ - collection of typical Breslin _New York Daily News_ articles in all their snarky glory ---
**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2021, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5322 "2021-03-28T18:28:26Z")
**The book you’ve read recently and enjoyed the most, and a six-word description of it** 1. _The Rosie Project_ by Graeme Simsion - Genius’s plan to find perfect wife 2. _The Speed of Trust_ by Stephen MR Covey — trust governs every relationship for **you** 3. _The World of Jimmy Breslin_ - collection of typical Breslin _New York Daily News_ articles in all their snarky glory 4. _The Goldfinch_ by Donna Tartt - Pulitzer winner, vanished Old Master painting @Elendil_s_Heir interesting that Cleary mentioned your grandfather in a book! ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2021, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5323 "2021-03-29T13:55:59Z")
**The book you’ve read recently and enjoyed the most, and a six-word description of it** 1. _The Rosie Project_ by Graeme Simsion - Genius’s plan to find perfect wife 2. _The Speed of Trust_ by Stephen MR Covey — trust governs every relationship for **you** 3. _The World of Jimmy Breslin_ - collection of typical Breslin _New York Daily News_ articles in all their snarky glory 4. _The Goldfinch_ by Donna Tartt - Pulitzer winner, vanished Old Master painting 5. _Hillbilly Elegy_ by JD Vance - Memoir featuring social problems in Appalachia I found it very fascinating and I am very disappointed that Vance has recently turned into a Trump troll. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938.md?page=265) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938.md?page=267)