# Baker's Dozen II (Part 1)

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**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [January 25, 2020, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938 "2020-01-25T03:38:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2021, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5724 "2021-05-06T15:55:06Z")

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**Names of countries, then and now**

1. Was Burma, now Myanmar
2. Was Rhodesia, now Zimbabwe
3. Was Aden, now Yemen

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**Author:** ![Bayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bayaker/32/3454_2.png) [@Bayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bayaker)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2021, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5725 "2021-05-06T15:56:57Z")

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**Names of countries, then and now**

1. Was Burma, now Myanmar
2. Was Rhodesia, now Zimbabwe
3. Was Aden, now Yemen
4. Was Serendip, then Ceylon, now Sri Lanka

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2021, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5726 "2021-05-06T16:53:55Z")

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**Names of countries, then and now**

1. Was Burma, now Myanmar
2. Was Rhodesia, now Zimbabwe
3. Was Aden, now Yemen
4. Was Serendip, then Ceylon, now Sri Lanka
5. Was Belgian Congo, then Democratic Republic of the Congo, then Zaïre, now Democratic Republic of the Congo

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**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2021, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5727 "2021-05-06T17:48:54Z")

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**Names of countries, then and now**

1. Was Burma, now Myanmar
2. Was Rhodesia, now Zimbabwe
3. Was Aden, now Yemen
4. Was Serendip, then Ceylon, now Sri Lanka
5. Was Belgian Congo, then Democratic Republic of the Congo, then Zaïre, now Democratic Republic of the Congo
6. Was Swaziland, then Kingdom of Swaziland, then Eswatini, now Kingdom of Eswatini.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2021, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5728 "2021-05-06T17:59:52Z")

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**Names of countries, then and now**

1. Was Burma, now Myanmar
2. Was Rhodesia, now Zimbabwe
3. Was Aden, now Yemen
4. Was Serendip, then Ceylon, now Sri Lanka
5. Was Belgian Congo, then Democratic Republic of the Congo, then Zaïre, now Democratic Republic of the Congo
6. Was Swaziland, then Kingdom of Swaziland, then Eswatini, now Kingdom of Eswatini.
7. Was Siam, now Thailand

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2021, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5729 "2021-05-06T18:47:51Z")

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**Names of countries, then and now**

1. Was Burma, now Myanmar
2. Was Rhodesia, now Zimbabwe
3. Was Aden, now Yemen
4. Was Serendip, then Ceylon, now Sri Lanka
5. Was Belgian Congo, then Democratic Republic of the Congo, then Zaïre, now Democratic Republic of the Congo
6. Was Swaziland, then Kingdom of Swaziland, then Eswatini, now Kingdom of Eswatini.
7. Was Siam, now Thailand
8. Was Papal States, now (part of) Italy

Of course the tiny Vatican City State remains.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2021, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5730 "2021-05-06T18:49:14Z")

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**Names of countries, then and now**

1. Was Burma, now Myanmar
2. Was Rhodesia, now Zimbabwe
3. Was Aden, now Yemen
4. Was Serendip, then Ceylon, now Sri Lanka
5. Was Belgian Congo, then Democratic Republic of the Congo, then Zaïre, now Democratic Republic of the Congo
6. Was Swaziland, then Kingdom of Swaziland, then Eswatini, now Kingdom of Eswatini.
7. Was Siam, now Thailand
8. Was Papal States, now (part of) Italy
9. Was Assyria, now Syria

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2021, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5731 "2021-05-06T18:54:16Z")

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**Names of countries, then and now**

1. Was Burma, now Myanmar
2. Was Rhodesia, now Zimbabwe
3. Was Aden, now Yemen
4. Was Serendip, then Ceylon, now Sri Lanka
5. Was Belgian Congo, then Democratic Republic of the Congo, then Zaïre, now Democratic Republic of the Congo
6. Was Swaziland, then Kingdom of Swaziland, then Eswatini, now Kingdom of Eswatini.
7. Was Siam, now Thailand
8. Was Papal States, now (part of) Italy
9. Was Assyria, now Syria
10. Was the Republic of Vermont (1777-1791), now the State of Vermont in the United States of America

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2021, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5732 "2021-05-06T19:23:32Z")

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**Names of countries, then and now**

1. Was Burma, now Myanmar
2. Was Rhodesia, now Zimbabwe
3. Was Aden, now Yemen
4. Was Serendip, then Ceylon, now Sri Lanka
5. Was Belgian Congo, then Democratic Republic of the Congo, then Zaïre, now Democratic Republic of the Congo
6. Was Swaziland, then Kingdom of Swaziland, then Eswatini, now Kingdom of Eswatini.
7. Was Siam, now Thailand
8. Was Papal States, now (part of) Italy
9. Was Assyria, now Syria
10. Was the Republic of Vermont (1777-1791), now the State of Vermont in the United States of America
11. Was the Soviet Union / USSR, now Lithuania, Georgia, Estonia, Latvia, Ukraine, Belarus, Transnistria, Moldova, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan, Chechnya, Russia, and Kazakhstan.

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**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2021, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5733 "2021-05-06T22:27:50Z")

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**Names of countries, then and now**

1. Was Burma, now Myanmar
2. Was Rhodesia, now Zimbabwe
3. Was Aden, now Yemen
4. Was Serendip, then Ceylon, now Sri Lanka
5. Was Belgian Congo, then Democratic Republic of the Congo, then Zaïre, now Democratic Republic of the Congo
6. Was Swaziland, then Kingdom of Swaziland, then Eswatini, now Kingdom of Eswatini.
7. Was Siam, now Thailand
8. Was Papal States, now (part of) Italy
9. Was Assyria, now Syria
10. Was the Republic of Vermont (1777-1791), now the State of Vermont in the United States of America
11. Was the Soviet Union / USSR, now Lithuania, Georgia, Estonia, Latvia, Ukraine, Belarus, Transnistria, Moldova, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan, Chechnya, Russia, and Kazakhstan.
12. Was Tanganyika, now Tanzania

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2021, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5734 "2021-05-06T22:28:57Z")

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**Names of countries, then and now**

1. Was Burma, now Myanmar
2. Was Rhodesia, now Zimbabwe
3. Was Aden, now Yemen
4. Was Serendip, then Ceylon, now Sri Lanka
5. Was Belgian Congo, then Democratic Republic of the Congo, then Zaïre, now Democratic Republic of the Congo
6. Was Swaziland, then Kingdom of Swaziland, then Eswatini, now Kingdom of Eswatini.
7. Was Siam, now Thailand
8. Was Papal States, now (part of) Italy
9. Was Assyria, now Syria
10. Was the Republic of Vermont (1777-1791), now the State of Vermont in the United States of America
11. Was the Soviet Union / USSR, now Lithuania, Georgia, Estonia, Latvia, Ukraine, Belarus, Transnistria, Moldova, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan, Chechnya, Russia, and Kazakhstan.
12. Was Tanganyika, now Tanzania
13. Was British Honduras, now Belize

Pass.

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**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2021, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5735 "2021-05-06T22:31:55Z")

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May the Force be with you a day late, on May the 5th (I’m looking out at giant Star Wars inflatables in my neighbor’s front yard)

Anyone or anything related to Star Wars and its sequels/prequels

1. Joseph Campbell, whose writings on the hero were an inspiration

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5736 "2021-05-07T00:07:18Z")

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Anyone or anything related to Star Wars and its sequels/prequels

1. Joseph Campbell, whose writings on the hero were an inspiration
2. Jack Kirby’s Fourth World series, which were also an inspiration

Power came from The Source; the big bad guy is Darkseid; one of the heroes is Mark Moonrider.

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5737 "2021-05-07T01:57:19Z")

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Anyone or anything related to Star Wars and its sequels/prequels

1. Joseph Campbell, whose writings on the hero were an inspiration
2. Jack Kirby’s Fourth World series, which were also an inspiration
3. Darth Maul was a bad-ass dude. I wish he wasn’t killed.

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5738 "2021-05-07T02:03:23Z")

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Anyone or anything related to Star Wars and its sequels/prequels

1. Joseph Campbell, whose writings on the hero were an inspiration
2. Jack Kirby’s Fourth World series, which were also an inspiration
3. Darth Maul was a bad-ass dude. I wish he wasn’t killed.
4. Dave Filoni, producer/writer/director for Clone Wars, Rebels, and The Mandalorian

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**Author:** ![Bayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bayaker/32/3454_2.png) [@Bayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bayaker)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5739 "2021-05-07T02:11:56Z")

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Anyone or anything related to Star Wars and its sequels/prequels

1. Joseph Campbell, whose writings on the hero were an inspiration
2. Jack Kirby’s Fourth World series, which were also an inspiration
3. Darth Maul was a bad-ass dude. I wish he wasn’t killed.
4. Dave Filoni, producer/writer/director for Clone Wars, Rebels, and The Mandalorian
5. R2D2, cute lil’ robot that suckered in dollars from the kids

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5740 "2021-05-07T04:26:21Z")

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Anyone or anything related to Star Wars and its sequels/prequels

1. Joseph Campbell, whose writings on the hero were an inspiration
2. Jack Kirby’s Fourth World series, which were also an inspiration
3. Darth Maul was a bad-ass dude. I wish he wasn’t killed.
4. Dave Filoni, producer/writer/director for Clone Wars, Rebels, and The Mandalorian
5. R2D2, cute lil’ robot that suckered in dollars from the kids
6. Marcia Lucas, George Lucas’ then wife and a highly respected filmmaker. Many have suggested she helped develop Star Wars without being properly credited.

[The secret weapon of ‘Star Wars’ was George Lucas’s ex-wife Marcia](https://www.sfgate.com/streaming/article/star-wars-george-lucas-marcia-editor-wife-15991031.php)

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**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5741 "2021-05-07T04:52:28Z")

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Anyone or anything related to Star Wars and its sequels/prequels

1. Joseph Campbell, whose writings on the hero were an inspiration
2. Jack Kirby’s Fourth World series, which were also an inspiration
3. Darth Maul was a bad-ass dude. I wish he wasn’t killed.
4. Dave Filoni, producer/writer/director for Clone Wars, Rebels, and The Mandalorian
5. R2D2, cute lil’ robot that suckered in dollars from the kids
6. Marcia Lucas, George Lucas’ then wife and a highly respected filmmaker. Many have suggested she helped develop Star Wars without being properly credited.
7. Yoda

@Little_Nemo, interesting link, sad that Marcia Lucas didn’t get full credit

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**Author:** ![Bicycle\_Bill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bicycle_bill/32/6208_2.png) [@Bicycle\_Bill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bicycle_Bill)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5742 "2021-05-07T06:20:45Z")

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Anyone or anything related to Star Wars and its sequels/prequels

1. Joseph Campbell, whose writings on the hero were an inspiration
2. Jack Kirby’s Fourth World series, which were also an inspiration
3. Darth Maul was a bad-ass dude. I wish he wasn’t killed.
4. Dave Filoni, producer/writer/director for Clone Wars, Rebels, and The Mandalorian
5. R2D2, cute lil’ robot that suckered in dollars from the kids
6. Marcia Lucas, George Lucas’ then wife and a highly respected filmmaker. Many have suggested she helped develop Star Wars without being properly credited.
7. Yoda
8. George Lucas’ Industrial Light and Magic, whose visual effects were cutting-edge for the time and really sold the effects of space flight, space battles, highly-detailed space ships, and the shop-worn effect of the regular day-to-day usage of the same.

_ **-“BB”-** _

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5743 "2021-05-07T12:19:16Z")

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Anyone or anything related to Star Wars and its sequels/prequels

1. Joseph Campbell, whose writings on the hero were an inspiration
2. Jack Kirby’s Fourth World series, which were also an inspiration
3. Darth Maul was a bad-ass dude. I wish he wasn’t killed.
4. Dave Filoni, producer/writer/director for Clone Wars, Rebels, and The Mandalorian
5. R2D2, cute lil’ robot that suckered in dollars from the kids
6. Marcia Lucas, George Lucas’ then wife and a highly respected filmmaker. Many have suggested she helped develop Star Wars without being properly credited.
7. Yoda
8. George Lucas’ Industrial Light and Magic, whose visual effects were cutting-edge for the time and really sold the effects of space flight, space battles, highly-detailed space ships, and the shop-worn effect of the regular day-to-day usage of the same.
9. _The Battle of Britain_ (1969) — I’d read that for the dogfighting scenes in the original _Star Wars_ (1977), they used dogfighting scenes scenes from _The Battle of Britain_.

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