# Baker's Dozen II (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [January 25, 2020, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938 "2020-01-25T03:38:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 300

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5984 "2021-05-20T12:10:00Z")

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**Properties** _(i.e., places you can own)_ **on a Monopoly Board**

1. Water Works
2. Marvin Gardens
3. Boardwalk
4. Reading Railroad
5. Park Place
6. Ventnor Avenue
7. Illinois Avenue

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**Author:** ![Bayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bayaker/32/3454_2.png) [@Bayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bayaker)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5985 "2021-05-20T13:32:37Z")

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**Properties** _(i.e., places you can own)_ **on a Monopoly Board**

1. Water Works
2. Marvin Gardens
3. Boardwalk
4. Reading Railroad
5. Park Place
6. Ventnor Avenue
7. Illinois Avenue
8. Mediterranean Avenue

Many people decline to purchase the cheap properties, but I always grabbed them so I sould get a moderate cash-flow going early in the game. Maybe I’m just a natural slumlord 🙂

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5986 "2021-05-20T13:49:05Z")

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**Properties** _(i.e., places you can own)_ **on a Monopoly Board**

1. Water Works
2. Marvin Gardens
3. Boardwalk
4. Reading Railroad
5. Park Place
6. Ventnor Avenue
7. Illinois Avenue
8. Mediterranean Avenue
9. St. Charles Place

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5987 "2021-05-20T13:52:59Z")

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**Properties** _(i.e., places you can own)_ **on a Monopoly Board**

1. Water Works
2. Marvin Gardens
3. Boardwalk
4. Reading Railroad
5. Park Place
6. Ventnor Avenue
7. Illinois Avenue
8. Mediterranean Avenue
9. St. Charles Place
10. Oriental Avenue

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5988 "2021-05-20T13:58:54Z")

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**Properties** _(i.e., places you can own)_ **on a Monopoly Board**

1. Water Works
2. Marvin Gardens
3. Boardwalk
4. Reading Railroad
5. Park Place
6. Ventnor Avenue
7. Illinois Avenue
8. Mediterranean Avenue
9. St. Charles Place
10. Oriental Avenue
11. New York Avenue

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**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5989 "2021-05-20T14:06:48Z")

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**Properties** _(i.e., places you can own)_ **on a Monopoly Board**

1. Water Works
2. Marvin Gardens
3. Boardwalk
4. Reading Railroad
5. Park Place
6. Ventnor Avenue
7. Illinois Avenue
8. Mediterranean Avenue
9. St. Charles Place
10. Oriental Avenue
11. New York Avenue
12. Electric Company

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5990 "2021-05-20T14:39:08Z")

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**Properties** _(i.e., places you can own)_ **on a Monopoly Board**

1. Water Works
2. Marvin Gardens
3. Boardwalk
4. Reading Railroad
5. Park Place
6. Ventnor Avenue
7. Illinois Avenue
8. Mediterranean Avenue
9. St. Charles Place
10. Oriental Avenue
11. New York Avenue
12. Electric Company
13. Virginia Avenue

Next up:

**Legal chess moves**

1. Move a pawn two spaces ahead for its first move

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**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5991 "2021-05-20T14:45:03Z")

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**Legal chess moves**

1. Move your pawn two spaces ahead for its first move
2. Queen-side castling

I don’t know the actual chess term-of-art for this maneuver.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5992 "2021-05-20T14:52:54Z")

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**Legal chess moves**

1. Move your pawn two spaces ahead for its first move
2. Queen-side castling
3. Capturing a pawn en passant

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**Author:** ![FastDan1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fastdan1/32/427_2.png) [@FastDan1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FastDan1)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5993 "2021-05-20T14:53:12Z")

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**Legal chess moves**

1. Move your pawn two spaces ahead for its first move
2. Queen-side castling
3. En passant

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5994 "2021-05-20T15:10:22Z")

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**Legal chess moves**

1. Move your pawn two spaces ahead for its first move
2. Queen-side castling
3. En passant
4. Moving an Elephant two spaces diagonally. but you have to stay on your side of the river (Chinese chess)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5995 "2021-05-20T15:15:49Z")

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**Legal chess moves**

1. Move your pawn two spaces ahead for its first move
2. Queen-side castling
3. En passant
4. Moving an Elephant two spaces diagonally. but you have to stay on your side of the river (Chinese chess)
5. Move your bishop three diagonal spaces to capture a rook

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**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5996 "2021-05-20T20:36:53Z")

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**Legal chess moves**

1. Move your pawn two spaces ahead for its first move
2. Queen-side castling
3. En passant
4. Moving an Elephant two spaces diagonally. but you have to stay on your side of the river (Chinese chess)
5. Move your bishop three diagonal spaces to capture a rook
6. Move your knight two squares ahead and one to the side, jumping over a pawn, for its move from initial position

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**Author:** ![Bicycle\_Bill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bicycle_bill/32/6208_2.png) [@Bicycle\_Bill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bicycle_Bill)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5997 "2021-05-20T23:47:07Z")

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**Legal chess moves**

1. Move your pawn two spaces ahead for its first move
2. Queen-side castling
3. En passant
4. Moving an Elephant two spaces diagonally. but you have to stay on your side of the river (Chinese chess)
5. Move your bishop three diagonal spaces to capture a rook
6. Move your knight two squares ahead and one to the side, jumping over a pawn, for its move from initial position
7. A “discovered attack” – moving a piece to another position while simultaneously exposing the opposing king to a ‘check’ from a second piece that had been blocked by the first.

_ **-“BB”-** _

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2021, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5998 "2021-05-21T00:35:26Z")

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**Legal chess moves**

1. Move your pawn two spaces ahead for its first move
2. Queen-side castling
3. En passant
4. Moving an Elephant two spaces diagonally. but you have to stay on your side of the river (Chinese chess)
5. Move your bishop three diagonal spaces to capture a rook
6. Move your knight two squares ahead and one to the side, jumping over a pawn, for its move from initial position
7. A “discovered attack” – moving a piece to another position while simultaneously exposing the opposing king to a ‘check’ from a second piece that had been blocked by the first.
8. Moving a pawn one space diagonally to capture

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**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2021, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/5999 "2021-05-21T01:31:43Z")

</div>

**Legal chess moves**

1. Move your pawn two spaces ahead for its first move
2. Queen-side castling
3. En passant
4. Moving an Elephant two spaces diagonally. but you have to stay on your side of the river (Chinese chess)
5. Move your bishop three diagonal spaces to capture a rook
6. Move your knight two squares ahead and one to the side, jumping over a pawn, for its move from initial position
7. A “discovered attack” – moving a piece to another position while simultaneously exposing the opposing king to a ‘check’ from a second piece that had been blocked by the first.
8. Moving a pawn one space diagonally to capture
9. Castling kingside

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**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2021, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/6000 "2021-05-21T13:34:17Z")

</div>

**Legal chess moves**

1. Move your pawn two spaces ahead for its first move
2. Queen-side castling
3. En passant
4. Moving an Elephant two spaces diagonally. but you have to stay on your side of the river (Chinese chess)
5. Move your bishop three diagonal spaces to capture a rook
6. Move your knight two squares ahead and one to the side, jumping over a pawn, for its move from initial position
7. A “discovered attack” – moving a piece to another position while simultaneously exposing the opposing king to a ‘check’ from a second piece that had been blocked by the first.
8. Moving a pawn one space diagonally to capture
9. Castling kingside
10. A forking attack

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2021, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/6001 "2021-05-21T14:28:39Z")

</div>

**Legal chess moves**

1. Move your pawn two spaces ahead for its first move
2. Queen-side castling
3. En passant
4. Moving an Elephant two spaces diagonally. but you have to stay on your side of the river (Chinese chess)
5. Move your bishop three diagonal spaces to capture a rook
6. Move your knight two squares ahead and one to the side, jumping over a pawn, for its move from initial position
7. A “discovered attack” – moving a piece to another position while simultaneously exposing the opposing king to a ‘check’ from a second piece that had been blocked by the first.
8. Moving a pawn one space diagonally to capture
9. Castling kingside
10. A forking attack
11. Windmilling/seesawing - a series of discovered checks and captures that swoops up much of your opponent’s material [The Chess Seesaw by Edward Winter](https://www.chesshistory.com/winter/extra/seesaw.html)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2021, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/6002 "2021-05-21T14:44:24Z")

</div>

**Legal chess moves**

1. Move your pawn two spaces ahead for its first move
2. Queen-side castling
3. En passant
4. Moving an Elephant two spaces diagonally. but you have to stay on your side of the river (Chinese chess)
5. Move your bishop three diagonal spaces to capture a rook
6. Move your knight two squares ahead and one to the side, jumping over a pawn, for its move from initial position
7. A “discovered attack” – moving a piece to another position while simultaneously exposing the opposing king to a ‘check’ from a second piece that had been blocked by the first.
8. Moving a pawn one space diagonally to capture
9. Castling kingside
10. A forking attack
11. Windmilling/seesawing - a series of discovered checks and captures that swoops up much of your opponent’s material [The Chess Seesaw by Edward Winter](https://www.chesshistory.com/winter/extra/seesaw.html)
12. Move a pawn into your opponent’s back row, allowing you to choose what piece it now becomes (usually, but not always, a queen)

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**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2021, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/6003 "2021-05-21T17:25:33Z")

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**Legal chess moves**

1. Move your pawn two spaces ahead for its first move
2. Queen-side castling
3. En passant
4. Moving an Elephant two spaces diagonally. but you have to stay on your side of the river (Chinese chess)
5. Move your bishop three diagonal spaces to capture a rook
6. Move your knight two squares ahead and one to the side, jumping over a pawn, for its move from initial position
7. A “discovered attack” – moving a piece to another position while simultaneously exposing the opposing king to a ‘check’ from a second piece that had been blocked by the first.
8. Moving a pawn one space diagonally to capture
9. Castling kingside
10. A forking attack
11. Windmilling/seesawing - a series of discovered checks and captures that swoops up much of your opponent’s material [The Chess Seesaw by Edward Winter](https://www.chesshistory.com/winter/extra/seesaw.html)
12. Move a pawn into your opponent’s back row, allowing you to choose what piece it now becomes (usually, but not always, a queen)
13. A Checkmate.

**Famous French People**

1. Marie Antoinette

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