# Baker's Dozen II (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [January 25, 2020, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938 "2020-01-25T03:38:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 470

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**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2022, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/9384 "2022-06-03T12:38:16Z")

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**Kings & Queens**

1. Victoria
2. Liliuokalani
3. Brian Boru
4. Catherine of Aragon
5. Elizabeth II
6. George III
7. Nebuchadnezzar II
8. Hatshepsut
9. Henry V
10. Marie Antoinette
11. Æthelbald
12. Skanderbeg  
13, Nefertiti

pass

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2022, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/9385 "2022-06-03T17:24:09Z")

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**Princes and princesses who never got the top job, and their country**

1. Princess Margaret of the United Kingdom

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**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2022, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/9386 "2022-06-03T17:25:57Z")

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**Princes and princesses who never got the top job, and their country**

1. Princess Margaret of the United Kingdom
2. Princess Grace (Grace Kelly) of Monaco

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2022, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/9387 "2022-06-03T17:58:50Z")

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**Princes and princesses who never got the top job, and their country**

1. Princess Margaret of the United Kingdom
2. Princess Grace (Grace Kelly) of Monaco
3. Prince Albert Victor of the United Kingdom

Oldest son of King Edward VII, he died of pneumonia in 1892. His brother became King George V in 1910.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2022, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/9388 "2022-06-03T18:30:44Z")

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**Princes and princesses who never got the top job, and their country**

1. Princess Margaret of the United Kingdom
2. Princess Grace (Grace Kelly) of Monaco
3. Prince Albert Victor of the United Kingdom
4. Prince Muhammad bin Abdulaziz of Saudi Arabia

Was crown prince in 1964-65, but resigned.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2022, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/9389 "2022-06-03T19:18:32Z")

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**Princes and princesses who never got the top job, and their country**

1. Princess Margaret of the United Kingdom
2. Princess Grace (Grace Kelly) of Monaco
3. Prince Albert Victor of the United Kingdom
4. Prince Muhammad bin Abdulaziz of Saudi Arabia
5. Tsarevich Alexei Romanov of Russia

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**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2022, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/9390 "2022-06-03T19:32:20Z")

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**Princes and princesses who never got the top job, and their country**

1. Princess Margaret of the United Kingdom
2. Princess Grace (Grace Kelly) of Monaco
3. Prince Albert Victor of the United Kingdom
4. Prince Muhammad bin Abdulaziz of Saudi Arabia
5. Tsarevich Alexei Romanov of Russia
6. Princess Ayako, of Japan

married a commoner. You know what happens to royalty when that occurs…

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**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2022, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/9391 "2022-06-04T01:38:47Z")

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**Princes and princesses who never got the top job, and their country**

1. Princess Margaret of the United Kingdom
2. Princess Grace (Grace Kelly) of Monaco
3. Prince Albert Victor of the United Kingdom
4. Prince Muhammad bin Abdulaziz of Saudi Arabia
5. Tsarevich Alexei Romanov of Russia
6. Princess Ayako, of Japan
7. Prince Arthur of England

If he’d lived, England would have had a real King Arthur, and his younger brother would not have become Henry VIII

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**Author:** ![Bayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bayaker/32/3454_2.png) [@Bayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bayaker)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2022, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/9392 "2022-06-04T13:12:47Z")

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**Princes and princesses who never got the top job, and their country**

1. Princess Margaret of the United Kingdom
2. Princess Grace (Grace Kelly) of Monaco
3. Prince Albert Victor of the United Kingdom
4. Prince Muhammad bin Abdulaziz of Saudi Arabia
5. Tsarevich Alexei Romanov of Russia
6. Princess Ayako, of Japan
7. Prince Arthur of England
8. Crown Prince Wilhelm of Prussia and the German Empire

His dad, Kaiser Billy, really screwed things up for him.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2022, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/9393 "2022-06-04T20:49:28Z")

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**Princes and princesses who never got the top job, and their country**

1. Princess Margaret of the United Kingdom
2. Princess Grace (Grace Kelly) of Monaco
3. Prince Albert Victor of the United Kingdom
4. Prince Muhammad bin Abdulaziz of Saudi Arabia
5. Tsarevich Alexei Romanov of Russia
6. Princess Ayako, of Japan
7. Prince Arthur of England
8. Crown Prince Wilhelm of Prussia and the German Empire
9. Prince Napoléon François Joseph Charles Bonaparte of France

Son of Napoleon Bonaparte and styled as Napoleon II, although he never actually reigned.

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**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2022, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/9394 "2022-06-05T17:10:12Z")

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**Princes and princesses who never got the top job, and their country**

1. Princess Margaret of the United Kingdom
2. Princess Grace (Grace Kelly) of Monaco
3. Prince Albert Victor of the United Kingdom
4. Prince Muhammad bin Abdulaziz of Saudi Arabia
5. Tsarevich Alexei Romanov of Russia
6. Princess Ayako, of Japan
7. Prince Arthur of England
8. Crown Prince Wilhelm of Prussia and the German Empire
9. Prince Napoléon François Joseph Charles Bonaparte of France
10. Prince Felix Youssopov of Russia

Best known for killing Rasputin

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2022, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/9395 "2022-06-06T19:52:43Z")

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**Princes and princesses who never got the top job, and their country**

1. Princess Margaret of the United Kingdom
2. Princess Grace (Grace Kelly) of Monaco
3. Prince Albert Victor of the United Kingdom
4. Prince Muhammad bin Abdulaziz of Saudi Arabia
5. Tsarevich Alexei Romanov of Russia
6. Princess Ayako, of Japan
7. Prince Arthur of England
8. Crown Prince Wilhelm of Prussia and the German Empire
9. Prince Napoléon François Joseph Charles Bonaparte of France
10. Prince Felix Youssopov of Russia
11. Prince Adegbite Adewunmi Sijuade of Nigeria

is not sending you e-mails. Nigeria is now a democracy, so the title of Prince is an honorific hold-over.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/9396 "2022-06-07T03:28:03Z")

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**Princes and princesses who never got the top job, and their country**

1. Princess Margaret of the United Kingdom
2. Princess Grace (Grace Kelly) of Monaco
3. Prince Albert Victor of the United Kingdom
4. Prince Muhammad bin Abdulaziz of Saudi Arabia
5. Tsarevich Alexei Romanov of Russia
6. Princess Ayako, of Japan
7. Prince Arthur of England
8. Crown Prince Wilhelm of Prussia and the German Empire
9. Prince Napoléon François Joseph Charles Bonaparte of France
10. Prince Felix Youssopov of Russia
11. Prince Adegbite Adewunmi Sijuade of Nigeria
12. Crown Prince Rudolf of Austria

Son of Emperor Franz Joseph. Committed suicide in 1889. His cousin Franz Ferdinand became the heir to the throne. Spoiler alert: He didn’t succeed to the title either.

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**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/9397 "2022-06-07T13:16:44Z")

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**Princes and princesses who never got the top job, and their country**

1. Princess Margaret of the United Kingdom
2. Princess Grace (Grace Kelly) of Monaco
3. Prince Albert Victor of the United Kingdom
4. Prince Muhammad bin Abdulaziz of Saudi Arabia
5. Tsarevich Alexei Romanov of Russia
6. Princess Ayako, of Japan
7. Prince Arthur of England
8. Crown Prince Wilhelm of Prussia and the German Empire
9. Prince Napoléon François Joseph Charles Bonaparte of France
10. Prince Felix Youssopov of Russia
11. Prince Adegbite Adewunmi Sijuade of Nigeria
12. Crown Prince Rudolf of Austria
13. Prince John, of the United Kingdom

Youngest child of George V

**Cakes**

1. Pineapple Upside Down

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**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/9398 "2022-06-07T13:18:46Z")

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**Cakes**

1. Pineapple Upside Down
2. Red Velvet

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**Author:** ![Bayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bayaker/32/3454_2.png) [@Bayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bayaker)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/9399 "2022-06-07T13:25:24Z")

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**Cakes**

1. Pineapple Upside Down
2. Red Velvet
3. Lane

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/9400 "2022-06-07T13:40:29Z")

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**Cakes**

1. Pineapple Upside Down
2. Red Velvet
3. Lane
4. Dump

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**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/9401 "2022-06-07T13:42:16Z")

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**Cakes**

1. Pineapple Upside Down
2. Red Velvet
3. Lane
4. Dump
5. Angel Food

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/9402 "2022-06-07T14:05:03Z")

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**Cakes**

1. Pineapple Upside Down
2. Red Velvet
3. Lane
4. Dump
5. Angel Food
6. Death By Chocolate

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**Author:** ![Bayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bayaker/32/3454_2.png) [@Bayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bayaker)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/9403 "2022-06-07T16:33:03Z")

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**Cakes**

1. Pineapple Upside Down
2. Red Velvet
3. Lane
4. Dump
5. Angel Food
6. Death By Chocolate
7. Chuckwagon

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