# Baker's Dozen II (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [January 25, 2020, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938 "2020-01-25T03:38:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 471
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/9404 "2022-06-07T17:51:38Z")
**Cakes** 1. Pineapple Upside Down 2. Red Velvet 3. Lane 4. Dump 5. Angel Food 6. Death By Chocolate 7. Chuckwagon 8. Lemon Ahead > [@Help me plan a Game of Thrones dinner!](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/help-me-plan-a-game-of-thrones-dinner/577258/30): > > For a lemon cake recipe, may I suggest my wife’s world-famous and insanely good Lemon Ahead Cake? 1 sm. (3 oz.) package lemon Jello 1 cup water 4 eggs 3/4 cup vegetable oil pinch of salt 1 box lemon cake mix (Duncan Hines) 2 cups confectioners sugar 1/2 cup lemon juice Dissolve package of lemon Jello in cup of boiling water. Let cool. In large bowl, beat eggs lightly. Add oil to eggs and a little pinch of salt. Add cooled Jello. Add cake mix. Beat 2 mins. Pour into 13x9x2” greased pan. … ---
**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/9405 "2022-06-07T20:17:21Z")
**Cakes** 1. Pineapple Upside Down 2. Red Velvet 3. Lane 4. Dump 5. Angel Food 6. Death By Chocolate 7. Chuckwagon 8. Lemon Ahead 9. German Chocolate ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/9406 "2022-06-07T20:23:30Z")
**Cakes** 1. Pineapple Upside Down 2. Red Velvet 3. Lane 4. Dump 5. Angel Food 6. Death By Chocolate 7. Chuckwagon 8. Lemon Ahead 9. German Chocolate 10. Cheese New York Style with raspberry coulis for me, please. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/9407 "2022-06-07T20:55:12Z")
**Cakes** 1. Pineapple Upside Down 2. Red Velvet 3. Lane 4. Dump 5. Angel Food 6. Death By Chocolate 7. Chuckwagon 8. Lemon Ahead 9. German Chocolate 10. Cheese 11. Carrot ---
**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/9408 "2022-06-07T22:11:43Z")
**Cakes** 1. Pineapple Upside Down 2. Red Velvet 3. Lane 4. Dump 5. Angel Food 6. Death By Chocolate 7. Chuckwagon 8. Lemon Ahead 9. German Chocolate 10. Cheese 11. Carrot 12. Black forest ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2022, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/9409 "2022-06-08T01:04:16Z")
Cakes ``` Pineapple Upside Down Red Velvet Lane Dump Angel Food Death By Chocolate Chuckwagon Lemon Ahead German Chocolate Cheese Carrot Black forest Patty ``` **Second Ladies who were never First Ladies** 1. Muriel Humphrey Brown (Mrs. Hubert Humphrey) ---
**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2022, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/9410 "2022-06-08T02:50:39Z")
**Second Ladies who were never First Ladies** 1. Muriel Humphrey Brown (Mrs. Hubert Humphrey) 2. Joan Mondale ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2022, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/9411 "2022-06-08T04:24:59Z")
**Second Ladies who were never First Ladies** 1. Muriel Humphrey Brown (Mrs. Hubert Humphrey) 2. Joan Mondale 3. Elinor “Judy” Agnew ---
**Author:** ![Bayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bayaker/32/3454_2.png) [@Bayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bayaker)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2022, 10:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/9412 "2022-06-08T10:35:12Z")
**Second Ladies who were never First Ladies** 1. Muriel Humphrey Brown (Mrs. Hubert Humphrey) 2. Joan Mondale 3. Elinor “Judy” Agnew 4. Ettie Garner In a possibly apocryphal story, she met John Nance “Cactus Jack” Garner when she ran(and lost) against him for Uvalde County judge. This was before the 19th Amendment. ---
**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2022, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/9413 "2022-06-08T12:30:04Z")
**Second Ladies who were never First Ladies** 1. Muriel Humphrey Brown (Mrs. Hubert Humphrey) 2. Joan Mondale 3. Elinor “Judy” Agnew 4. Ettie Garner 5. Tipper Gore Perhaps best known for her musical censorship efforts in the 1980’s ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2022, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/9414 "2022-06-08T13:25:04Z")
**Second Ladies who were never First Ladies** 1. Muriel Humphrey Brown (Mrs. Hubert Humphrey) 2. Joan Mondale 3. Elinor “Judy” Agnew 4. Ettie Garner 5. Tipper Gore 6. Marilyn Quayle Often considered the smarter of the two in that marriage. A friend of mine who studied with her for the Indiana bar exam told me that she had labor induced so that she could give birth and still take the bar exam as scheduled. ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2022, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/9415 "2022-06-08T13:32:24Z")
**Second Ladies who were never First Ladies** 1. Muriel Humphrey Brown (Mrs. Hubert Humphrey) 2. Joan Mondale 3. Elinor “Judy” Agnew 4. Ettie Garner 5. Tipper Gore 6. Marilyn Quayle 7. Karen “Mother” Pence ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2022, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/9416 "2022-06-08T13:54:52Z")
**Second Ladies who were never First Ladies** 1. Muriel Humphrey Brown (Mrs. Hubert Humphrey) 2. Joan Mondale 3. Elinor “Judy” Agnew 4. Ettie Garner 5. Tipper Gore 6. Marilyn Quayle 7. Karen “Mother” Pence 8. Jane Hadley Barkley She was the second wife of Alben Barkley, Truman’s VP. Both widowed, they married while he was in office, in November 1949. He was 71; she was 38. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2022, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/9417 "2022-06-08T15:08:01Z")
**Second Ladies who were never First Ladies** 1. Muriel Humphrey Brown (Mrs. Hubert Humphrey) 2. Joan Mondale 3. Elinor “Judy” Agnew 4. Ettie Garner 5. Tipper Gore 6. Marilyn Quayle 7. Karen “Mother” Pence 8. Jane Hadley Barkley 9. Ellen Hamlin Wife of Hannibal, Lincoln’s first veep ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2022, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/9418 "2022-06-08T18:32:38Z")
**Second Ladies who were never First Ladies** 1. Muriel Humphrey Brown (Mrs. Hubert Humphrey) 2. Joan Mondale 3. Elinor “Judy” Agnew 4. Ettie Garner 5. Tipper Gore 6. Marilyn Quayle 7. Karen “Mother” Pence 8. Jane Hadley Barkley 9. Ellen Hamlin 10. Lynn Cheney ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2022, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/9419 "2022-06-08T19:52:30Z")
**Second Ladies who were never First Ladies** 1. Muriel Humphrey Brown (Mrs. Hubert Humphrey) 2. Joan Mondale 3. Elinor “Judy” Agnew 4. Ettie Garner 5. Tipper Gore 6. Marilyn Quayle 7. Karen “Mother” Pence 8. Jane Hadley Barkley 9. Ellen Hamlin 10. Lynn Cheney 11. Jennie Tuttle Hobart She came close. Her husband, Garret Hobart, was elected Vice President alongside William McKinley in 1896. If he hadn’t died of a heart problem in 1899, he would have succeeded to the Presidency when McKinley was assassinated in 1901. ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2022, 9:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/9420 "2022-06-09T09:55:58Z")
**Second Ladies who were never First Ladies** 1. Muriel Humphrey Brown (Mrs. Hubert Humphrey) 2. Joan Mondale 3. Elinor “Judy” Agnew 4. Ettie Garner 5. Tipper Gore 6. Marilyn Quayle 7. Karen “Mother” Pence 8. Jane Hadley Barkley 9. Ellen Hamlin 10. Lynn Cheney 11. Jennie Tuttle Hobart 12. Margaretta “Happy” Rockefeller ---
**Author:** ![Skunkdog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@Skunkdog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skunkdog)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2022, 10:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/9421 "2022-06-09T10:03:47Z")
**Second Ladies who were never First Ladies** 1. Muriel Humphrey Brown (Mrs. Hubert Humphrey) 2. Joan Mondale 3. Elinor “Judy” Agnew 4. Ettie Garner 5. Tipper Gore 6. Marilyn Quayle 7. Karen “Mother” Pence 8. Jane Hadley Barkley 9. Ellen Hamlin 10. Lynn Cheney 11. Jennie Tuttle Hobart 12. Floride Calhoun She was principally involved in the “Petticoat Affair” which caused friction in the Andrew Jackson administration, which led to her husband, John C. Calhoun, being passed over for the nomination. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2022, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/9422 "2022-06-09T14:58:43Z")
**Second Ladies who were never First Ladies** 1. Muriel Humphrey Brown (Mrs. Hubert Humphrey) 2. Joan Mondale 3. Elinor “Judy” Agnew 4. Ettie Garner 5. Tipper Gore 6. Marilyn Quayle 7. Karen “Mother” Pence 8. Jane Hadley Barkley 9. Ellen Hamlin 10. Lynn Cheney 11. Jennie Tuttle Hobart 12. Margaretta “Happy” Rockefeller 13. Floride Calhoun Fixed list. Skunkdog, you were thirteen. We need a new category. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/9423 "2022-06-10T17:33:41Z")
Okay, I’m taking this as a pass. New category: Female cabinet officials (US) 1. Frances Perkins (Secretary of Labor under Roosevelt) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938.md?page=470) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938.md?page=472)