# Baker's Dozen II (Part 1)

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**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [January 25, 2020, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938 "2020-01-25T03:38:46Z")\
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**Post date:** [April 9, 2020, 7:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/1601 "2020-04-09T07:49:51Z")

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Presidential Candidates Who Came Close to Gaining their Party’s Nomination. Give year.

1. Bernie, Democratic Party, 2020
2. William H. Seward, Republican Party, 1860
3. Bernie, Democratic Party, 2016
4. Robert Kennedy, Democratic Party, 1968
5. Estes Kefauver, Dem, 1952

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**Post date:** [April 9, 2020, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/1602 "2020-04-09T15:55:28Z")

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Presidential Candidates Who Came Close to Gaining their Party’s Nomination. Give year.

1. Bernie, Democratic Party, 2020
2. William H. Seward, Republican Party, 1860
3. Bernie, Democratic Party, 2016
4. Robert Kennedy, Democratic Party, 1968
5. Estes Kefauver, Dem, 1952
6. Martin Van Buren, 1844

He got a majority in the first vote but the rules required him to have two thirds. His support began shrinking and James Polk ended up getting the nomination as a compromise candidate.

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**Post date:** [April 9, 2020, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/1603 "2020-04-09T17:55:19Z")

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Presidential Candidates Who Came Close to Gaining their Party’s Nomination. Give year.

1. Bernie, Democratic Party, 2020
2. William H. Seward, Republican Party, 1860
3. Bernie, Democratic Party, 2016
4. Robert Kennedy, Democratic Party, 1968
5. Estes Kefauver, Dem, 1952
6. Martin Van Buren, 1844
7. William Gibbs McAdoo, 1920

Though William Gibbs McAdoo won a vast majority of states, he was blocked at the convention by President Woodrow Wilson, who was also his father-in-law. James Cox won the nomination on the 22nd ballot at the convention. Cox went on to lose the election to Republican candidate Warren Harding.

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**Post date:** [April 9, 2020, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/1604 "2020-04-09T18:03:38Z")

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Presidential Candidates Who Came Close to Gaining their Party’s Nomination. Give year.

1. Bernie, Democratic Party, 2020
2. William H. Seward, Republican Party, 1860
3. Bernie, Democratic Party, 2016
4. Robert Kennedy, Democratic Party, 1968
5. Estes Kefauver, Dem, 1952
6. Martin Van Buren, Dem, 1844
7. William Gibbs McAdoo, Dem, 1920
8. Robert A. Taft, Republican, 1952

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**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2020, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/1605 "2020-04-09T19:41:43Z")

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Presidential Candidates Who Came Close to Gaining their Party’s Nomination. Give year.

1. Bernie, Democratic Party, 2020
2. William H. Seward, Republican Party, 1860
3. Bernie, Democratic Party, 2016
4. Robert Kennedy, Democratic Party, 1968
5. Estes Kefauver, Dem, 1952
6. Martin Van Buren, Dem, 1844
7. William Gibbs McAdoo, Dem, 1920
8. Robert A. Taft, Republican, 1952
9. James Blaine, Republican, 1876

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**Post date:** [April 9, 2020, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/1606 "2020-04-09T20:50:20Z")

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Presidential Candidates Who Came Close to Gaining their Party’s Nomination. Give year.

1. Bernie, Democratic Party, 2020
2. William H. Seward, Republican Party, 1860
3. Bernie, Democratic Party, 2016
4. Robert Kennedy, Democratic Party, 1968
5. Estes Kefauver, Dem, 1952
6. Martin Van Buren, Dem, 1844
7. William Gibbs McAdoo, Dem, 1920
8. Robert A. Taft, Republican, 1952
9. James Blaine, Republican, 1876
10. Hillary Clinton, Democratic Party, 2008

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2020, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/1607 "2020-04-09T20:50:27Z")

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Presidential Candidates Who Came Close to Gaining their Party’s Nomination. Give year.

1. Bernie, Democratic Party, 2020
2. William H. Seward, Republican Party, 1860
3. Bernie, Democratic Party, 2016
4. Robert Kennedy, Democratic Party, 1968
5. Estes Kefauver, Democrat, 1952
6. Martin Van Buren, Democrat, 1844
7. William Gibbs McAdoo, Democrat, 1920
8. Robert A. Taft, Republican, 1952
9. James Blaine, Republican, 1876
10. Hillary Clinton, Democratic Party, 2008
11. Robert Kennedy, Democrat, 1968

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2020, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/1608 "2020-04-09T21:02:04Z")

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11 was a repeat of 4.

Presidential Candidates Who Came Close to Gaining their Party’s Nomination. Give year.

1. Bernie, Democratic Party, 2020
2. William H. Seward, Republican Party, 1860
3. Bernie, Democratic Party, 2016
4. Robert Kennedy, Democratic Party, 1968
5. Estes Kefauver, Democrat, 1952
6. Martin Van Buren, Democrat, 1844
7. William Gibbs McAdoo, Democrat, 1920
8. Robert A. Taft, Republican, 1952
9. James Blaine, Republican, 1876
10. Hillary Clinton, Democratic Party, 2008
11. James Guthrie, Dems, 1860

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**Post date:** [April 9, 2020, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/1609 "2020-04-09T21:35:53Z")

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Presidential Candidates Who Came Close to Gaining their Party’s Nomination. Give year.

1. Bernie, Democratic Party, 2020
2. William H. Seward, Republican Party, 1860
3. Bernie, Democratic Party, 2016
4. Robert Kennedy, Democratic Party, 1968
5. Estes Kefauver, Democrat, 1952
6. Martin Van Buren, Democrat, 1844
7. William Gibbs McAdoo, Democrat, 1920
8. Robert A. Taft, Republican, 1952
9. James Blaine, Republican, 1876
10. Hillary Clinton, Democratic Party, 2008
11. James Guthrie, Dems, 1860
12. Ronald Reagan, Republican, 1976

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2020, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/1610 "2020-04-09T23:00:20Z")

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Presidential Candidates Who Came Close to Gaining their Party’s Nomination. Give year.

1. Bernie, Democratic Party, 2020
2. William H. Seward, Republican Party, 1860
3. Bernie, Democratic Party, 2016
4. Robert Kennedy, Democratic Party, 1968
5. Estes Kefauver, Democrat, 1952
6. Martin Van Buren, Democrat, 1844
7. William Gibbs McAdoo, Democrat, 1920
8. Robert A. Taft, Republican, 1952
9. James Blaine, Republican, 1876
10. Hillary Clinton, Democratic Party, 2008
11. James Guthrie, Dems, 1860
12. Ronald Reagan, Republican, 1976
13. Theodore Roosevelt, Republican, 1912

He sought the Republican nomination before running as the Progressive nominee.

He also sought the nomination in 1916 but there were still Republicans who resented him for splitting the party four years earlier.

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**Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/1611 "2020-04-10T04:17:57Z")

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**Little Nemo** , do you have a new category for us?

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**Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/1612 "2020-04-10T04:56:19Z")

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i’ll take that aas a pass. Nex4

Great railroads from the steam era

1. Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe

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**Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/1613 "2020-04-10T05:26:33Z")

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Great railroads from the steam era

1. Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe
2. Canadian National (CNR)

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**Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/1614 "2020-04-10T07:01:24Z")

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Great railroads from the steam era

1. Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe
2. Canadian National (CNR)
3. Great Western Railway (London to Bristol)

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**Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 10:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/1615 "2020-04-10T10:26:29Z")

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Great railroads from the steam era

1. Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe
2. Canadian National (CNR)
3. Great Western Railway (London to Bristol)
4. Baltimore and Ohio

Oldest in the US

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**Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/1616 "2020-04-10T11:27:35Z")

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Great railroads from the steam era

1. Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe
2. Canadian National (CNR)
3. Great Western Railway (London to Bristol)
4. Baltimore and Ohio
5. The Rock Island Line

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I hear it’s a mighty good road.

Great railroads from the steam era

1. Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe
2. Canadian National (CNR)
3. Great Western Railway (London to Bristol)
4. Baltimore and Ohio
5. The Rock Island Line
6. Grand Trunk Railway

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**Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/1618 "2020-04-10T13:52:03Z")

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Great railroads from the steam era

1. Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe
2. Canadian National (CNR)
3. Great Western Railway (London to Bristol)
4. Baltimore and Ohio
5. The Rock Island Line
6. Grand Trunk Railway
7. The Overland Route / The Pacific Railroad / The First Transcontinental Railroad

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
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Great railroads from the steam era

1. Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe
2. Canadian National (CNR)
3. Great Western Railway (London to Bristol)
4. Baltimore and Ohio
5. The Rock Island Line
6. Grand Trunk Railway
7. The Overland Route / The Pacific Railroad / The First Transcontinental Railroad
8. Detroit, Grand Haven and Milwaukee

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**Post date:** [April 10, 2020, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen-ii-part-1/846938/1620 "2020-04-10T19:02:37Z")

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> [@gkster](#):
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> **Little Nemo** , do you have a new category for us?

I tried to edit my post to say I was passing but the board was acting up.

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