# Bakers Dozen

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**Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/21004 "2013-11-21T22:26:48Z")

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Actors Who’ve Played Both Comically Goofy and Seriously Evil Characters on TV or in Movies

1. Bryan Cranston (evil Heisenberg on Breaking Bad and goofy Dad on Malcolm in the Middle )
2. Christopher Eccleston (the villain in Thor: the Dark World and the sometimes goofy 9th Doctor on Doctor Who)
3. Kathy Bates (Cajun Mama in The Waterboy, Delphine Lalaurie in American Horror Story: Coven)
4. John Noble as Walter Bishop on Fringe. (Depending on his mental state, and which dimension\*, the same character was goofy or evil.)
5. Jim Carrey as the Riddler and Jim Carrey as the Riddler.
6. Wil Wheaton (The goofy Evil Wil Wheaton on The Big Bang Theory, the totally evil serial killer/rapist Floyd Hansen in the Criminal Minds episode Paradise.
7. David Tennant (the sometimes-goofy 10th Doctor, and Brandon Block in “Secret Smile.”)
8. Brad Pitt (goofy-insane guy in 12 Monkeys and homocidal maniac in Kalifornia)
9. John Lithgow (seriously evil in Dexter; comically goofy in 3rd Rock From the Sun)
10. Ian McKellen (an ex-Nazi doctor in Apt Pupil; a dotty version of himself on Extras)
11. Anthony Hopkins - another actor who played seriously evil and comically goofy in the same movie, in RED 2

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2013, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/21005 "2013-11-22T03:31:18Z")

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Actors Who’ve Played Both Comically Goofy and Seriously Evil Characters on TV or in Movies

1. Bryan Cranston (evil Heisenberg on Breaking Bad and goofy Dad on Malcolm in the Middle )
2. Christopher Eccleston (the villain in Thor: the Dark World and the sometimes goofy 9th Doctor on Doctor Who)
3. Kathy Bates (Cajun Mama in The Waterboy, Delphine Lalaurie in American Horror Story: Coven)
4. John Noble as Walter Bishop on Fringe. (Depending on his mental state, and which dimension\*, the same character was goofy or evil.)
5. Jim Carrey as the Riddler and Jim Carrey as the Riddler.
6. Wil Wheaton (The goofy Evil Wil Wheaton on The Big Bang Theory, the totally evil serial killer/rapist Floyd Hansen in the Criminal Minds episode Paradise.
7. David Tennant (the sometimes-goofy 10th Doctor, and Brandon Block in “Secret Smile.”)
8. Brad Pitt (goofy-insane guy in 12 Monkeys and homocidal maniac in Kalifornia)
9. John Lithgow (seriously evil in Dexter; comically goofy in 3rd Rock From the Sun)
10. Ian McKellen (an ex-Nazi doctor in Apt Pupil; a dotty version of himself on Extras)
11. Anthony Hopkins - another actor who played seriously evil and comically goofy in the same movie…
12. Derek Jacobi (a killer in Dead Again; an over-the-top bad actor in an episode of Frasier)

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2013, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/21006 "2013-11-22T04:21:31Z")

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Actors Who’ve Played Both Comically Goofy and Seriously Evil Characters on TV or in Movies

1. Bryan Cranston (evil Heisenberg on Breaking Bad and goofy Dad on Malcolm in the Middle )
2. Christopher Eccleston (the villain in Thor: the Dark World and the sometimes goofy 9th Doctor on Doctor Who)
3. Kathy Bates (Cajun Mama in The Waterboy, Delphine Lalaurie in American Horror Story: Coven)
4. John Noble as Walter Bishop on Fringe. (Depending on his mental state, and which dimension\*, the same character was goofy or evil.)
5. Jim Carrey as the Riddler and Jim Carrey as the Riddler.
6. Wil Wheaton (The goofy Evil Wil Wheaton on The Big Bang Theory, the totally evil serial killer/rapist Floyd Hansen in the Criminal Minds episode Paradise.
7. David Tennant (the sometimes-goofy 10th Doctor, and Brandon Block in “Secret Smile.”)
8. Brad Pitt (goofy-insane guy in 12 Monkeys and homocidal maniac in Kalifornia)
9. John Lithgow (seriously evil in Dexter; comically goofy in 3rd Rock From the Sun)
10. Ian McKellen (an ex-Nazi doctor in Apt Pupil; a dotty version of himself on Extras)
11. Anthony Hopkins - another actor who played seriously evil and comically goofy in the same movie…
12. Derek Jacobi (a killer in Dead Again; an over-the-top bad actor in an episode of Frasier)
13. Christopher Lloyd (comic-goofy as Doc Brown in _Back to the Future_ [among others] and evil as Jimmy in _Twenty Bucks_, among others)

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13 Names Associated with the JFK Assassination You Should Know (other than JFK, Lee Harvey Oswald, and Jack Ruby)

1. Jim Leavelle

Also a survivor of Pearl Harbor, he was the detective handcuffed to Oswald when Ruby shot him. Now 93, he’s been on several interview shows in the past few days and is apparently still very sharp and even has a good sense of humor. (When asked what he thought when Ruby shot Oswald, he said “I wish I’d stayed home today”.)

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2013, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/21007 "2013-11-22T05:53:59Z")

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13 Names Associated with the JFK Assassination You Should Know  
(other than JFK, Lee Harvey Oswald, and Jack Ruby)

1. Jim Leavelle, handcuffed to Oswald when Ruby shot Oswald
2. Jim Garrison, New Orleans District Attorney, conspiracy theorist; Kevin Costner in Stone’s film

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2013, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/21008 "2013-11-22T06:03:02Z")

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13 Names Associated with the JFK Assassination You Should Know  
(other than JFK, Lee Harvey Oswald, and Jack Ruby)

1. Jim Leavelle, handcuffed to Oswald when Ruby shot Oswald
2. Jim Garrison, New Orleans District Attorney, conspiracy theorist
3. J.D. Tippit, police officer killed by Oswald

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2013, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/21009 "2013-11-22T12:27:30Z")

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13 Names Associated with the JFK Assassination You Should Know  
(other than JFK, Lee Harvey Oswald, and Jack Ruby)

1. Jim Leavelle, handcuffed to Oswald when Ruby shot Oswald
2. Jim Garrison, New Orleans District Attorney, conspiracy theorist
3. J.D. Tippit, police officer killed by Oswald
4. Jean Hill, witness to the assassination

Over the years, she became known for some creative testimony.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2013, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/21010 "2013-11-22T13:05:55Z")

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13 Names Associated with the JFK Assassination You Should Know  
(other than JFK, Lee Harvey Oswald, and Jack Ruby)

1. Jim Leavelle, handcuffed to Oswald when Ruby shot Oswald
2. Jim Garrison, New Orleans District Attorney, conspiracy theorist
3. J.D. Tippit, police officer killed by Oswald
4. Jean Hill, witness to the assassination
5. Chief Justice Earl Warren, head of the Warren Commission

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**Author:** ![Eutychus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Eutychus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eutychus)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2013, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/21011 "2013-11-22T13:28:55Z")

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13 Names Associated with the JFK Assassination You Should Know  
(other than JFK, Lee Harvey Oswald, and Jack Ruby)

1. Jim Leavelle, handcuffed to Oswald when Ruby shot Oswald
2. Jim Garrison, New Orleans District Attorney, conspiracy theorist
3. J.D. Tippit, police officer killed by Oswald
4. Jean Hill, witness to the assassination
5. Chief Justice Earl Warren, head of the Warren Commission
6. Kerry Wendell Thornley - served with Oswald in the Marines and wrote the only book about Oswald BEFORE the assassination

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2013, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/21012 "2013-11-22T14:15:38Z")

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13 Names Associated with the JFK Assassination You Should Know  
(other than JFK, Lee Harvey Oswald, and Jack Ruby)

1. Jim Leavelle, handcuffed to Oswald when Ruby shot Oswald
2. Jim Garrison, New Orleans District Attorney, conspiracy theorist
3. J.D. Tippit, police officer killed by Oswald
4. Jean Hill, witness to the assassination
5. Chief Justice Earl Warren, head of the Warren Commission
6. Kerry Wendell Thornley - served with Oswald in the Marines and wrote the only book about Oswald BEFORE the assassination
7. Gerald Ford, on the Warren Commission

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2013, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/21013 "2013-11-22T14:19:17Z")

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13 Names Associated with the JFK Assassination You Should Know  
(other than JFK, Lee Harvey Oswald, and Jack Ruby)

1. Jim Leavelle, handcuffed to Oswald when Ruby shot Oswald
2. Jim Garrison, New Orleans District Attorney, conspiracy theorist
3. J.D. Tippit, police officer killed by Oswald
4. Jean Hill, witness to the assassination
5. Chief Justice Earl Warren, head of the Warren Commission
6. Kerry Wendell Thornley - served with Oswald in the Marines and wrote the only book about Oswald BEFORE the assassination
7. Gerald Ford, on the Warren Commission
8. Dr. William Clark, pronounced Kennedy dead at Parkland Memorial Hospital

Some sources identify Dr. Robert McClelland as the doctor who pronounced the death. But while McClelland was present and treated Kennedy, it was Clark who pronounced the death.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2013, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/21014 "2013-11-22T14:21:51Z")

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13 Names Associated with the JFK Assassination You Should Know  
(other than JFK, Lee Harvey Oswald, and Jack Ruby)

1. Jim Leavelle, handcuffed to Oswald when Ruby shot Oswald
2. Jim Garrison, New Orleans District Attorney, conspiracy theorist
3. J.D. Tippit, police officer killed by Oswald
4. Jean Hill, witness to the assassination
5. Chief Justice Earl Warren, head of the Warren Commission
6. Kerry Wendell Thornley - served with Oswald in the Marines and wrote the only book about Oswald BEFORE the assassination
7. Gerald Ford, on the Warren Commission
8. Dr. William Clark, pronounced Kennedy dead at Parkland Memorial Hospital
9. Abraham Zapruder, home-movie maker who caught the action

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**Author:** ![Eutychus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Eutychus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eutychus)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2013, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/21015 "2013-11-22T14:27:08Z")

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13 Names Associated with the JFK Assassination You Should Know  
(other than JFK, Lee Harvey Oswald, and Jack Ruby)

1. Jim Leavelle, handcuffed to Oswald when Ruby shot Oswald
2. Jim Garrison, New Orleans District Attorney, conspiracy theorist
3. J.D. Tippit, police officer killed by Oswald
4. Jean Hill, witness to the assassination
5. Chief Justice Earl Warren, head of the Warren Commission
6. Kerry Wendell Thornley - served with Oswald in the Marines and wrote the only book about Oswald BEFORE the assassination
7. Gerald Ford, on the Warren Commission
8. Dr. William Clark, pronounced Kennedy dead at Parkland Memorial Hospital
9. Abraham Zapruder, home-movie maker who caught the action
10. Johnny Brewer - shoe store clerk who alerted the FBI of Oswald being in a nearly theater

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2013, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/21016 "2013-11-22T14:49:29Z")

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13 Names Associated with the JFK Assassination You Should Know  
(other than JFK, Lee Harvey Oswald, and Jack Ruby)

1. Jim Leavelle, handcuffed to Oswald when Ruby shot Oswald
2. Jim Garrison, New Orleans District Attorney, conspiracy theorist
3. J.D. Tippit, police officer killed by Oswald
4. Jean Hill, witness to the assassination
5. Chief Justice Earl Warren, head of the Warren Commission
6. Kerry Wendell Thornley - served with Oswald in the Marines and wrote the only book about Oswald BEFORE the assassination
7. Gerald Ford, on the Warren Commission
8. Dr. William Clark, pronounced Kennedy dead at Parkland Memorial Hospital
9. Abraham Zapruder, home-movie maker who caught the action
10. Johnny Brewer - shoe store clerk who alerted the FBI of Oswald being in a nearly theater
11. Charles Bronson, another photographer with evidence examined by the Warren Commission, he also filmed the head shot (and no, not the actor)

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2013, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/21017 "2013-11-22T15:10:27Z")

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13 Names Associated with the JFK Assassination You Should Know  
(other than JFK, Lee Harvey Oswald, and Jack Ruby)

1. Jim Leavelle, handcuffed to Oswald when Ruby shot Oswald
2. Jim Garrison, New Orleans District Attorney, conspiracy theorist
3. J.D. Tippit, police officer killed by Oswald
4. Jean Hill, witness to the assassination
5. Chief Justice Earl Warren, head of the Warren Commission
6. Kerry Wendell Thornley - served with Oswald in the Marines and wrote the only book about Oswald BEFORE the assassination
7. Gerald Ford, on the Warren Commission
8. Dr. William Clark, pronounced Kennedy dead at Parkland Memorial Hospital
9. Abraham Zapruder, home-movie maker who caught the action
10. Johnny Brewer - shoe store clerk who alerted the FBI of Oswald being in a nearly theater
11. Charles Bronson, another photographer with evidence examined by the Warren Commission, he also filmed the head shot (and no, not the actor)
12. Richard Nixon. Got his ass handed to him by JFK in what many considered a stolen election, happened to be in Dallas on 11-22-63. Coincidence? I think… well, yeah. Coincidence.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2013, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/21018 "2013-11-22T15:26:02Z")

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13 Names Associated with the JFK Assassination You Should Know  
(other than JFK, Lee Harvey Oswald, and Jack Ruby)

1. Jim Leavelle, handcuffed to Oswald when Ruby shot Oswald
2. Jim Garrison, New Orleans District Attorney, conspiracy theorist
3. J.D. Tippit, police officer killed by Oswald
4. Jean Hill, witness to the assassination
5. Chief Justice Earl Warren, head of the Warren Commission
6. Kerry Wendell Thornley - served with Oswald in the Marines and wrote the only book about Oswald BEFORE the assassination
7. Gerald Ford, on the Warren Commission
8. Dr. William Clark, pronounced Kennedy dead at Parkland Memorial Hospital
9. Abraham Zapruder, home-movie maker who caught the action
10. Johnny Brewer - shoe store clerk who alerted the FBI of Oswald being in a nearly theater
11. Charles Bronson, another photographer with evidence examined by the Warren Commission, he also filmed the head shot (and no, not the actor)
12. Richard Nixon. Got his ass handed to him by JFK in what many considered a stolen election, happened to be in Dallas on 11-22-63. Coincidence? I think… well, yeah. Coincidence.
13. John Connally, Texas governor who was in the limousine with the Kennedys.

New topic: Politicians Who Survived Assassination Attempts

1. Teddy Roosevelt (took a bullet in the belly but went on to deliver his planned campaign speech)

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2013, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/21019 "2013-11-22T15:30:11Z")

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New topic: Politicians Who Survived Assassination Attempts

1. Teddy Roosevelt (took a bullet in the belly but went on to deliver his planned campaign speech)
2. Gerald Ford (Squeaky Fromme tried to shoot him in Sacramento)

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2013, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/21020 "2013-11-22T15:44:27Z")

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New topic: Politicians Who Survived Assassination Attempts

1. Teddy Roosevelt (took a bullet in the belly but went on to deliver his planned campaign speech)
2. Gerald Ford (Squeaky Fromme tried to shoot him in Sacramento)
3. Ronald Reagan

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2013, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/21021 "2013-11-22T16:18:38Z")

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New topic: Politicians Who Survived Assassination Attempts

1. Teddy Roosevelt (took a bullet in the belly but went on to deliver his planned campaign speech)
2. Gerald Ford (Squeaky Fromme tried to shoot him in Sacramento)
3. Ronald Reagan
4. Gerald Ford (in San Fran, about 2 weeks after the Fromme attempt)

Why Gerald Ford created enough hatred to have two attempts on his life within a month, I have no clue.

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**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2013, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/21022 "2013-11-22T17:38:49Z")

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New topic: Politicians Who Survived Assassination Attempts

1. Teddy Roosevelt (took a bullet in the belly but went on to deliver his planned campaign speech)
2. Gerald Ford (Squeaky Fromme tried to shoot him in Sacramento)
3. Ronald Reagan
4. Gerald Ford (in San Fran, about 2 weeks after the Fromme attempt)
5. Harry Truman (in 1950)

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2013, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/21023 "2013-11-22T18:05:38Z")

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Politicians Who Survived Assassination Attempts

1. Teddy Roosevelt (took a bullet in the belly but went on to deliver his planned campaign speech)
2. Gerald Ford (Squeaky Fromme tried to shoot him in Sacramento)
3. Ronald Reagan
4. Gerald Ford (in San Fran, about 2 weeks after the Fromme attempt)
5. Harry Truman (in 1950)
6. King James I and the House of Lords (1606, Guy Fawkes and the Gunpowder Plot)

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