# Bakers Dozen **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1111
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2014, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/22204 "2014-01-17T00:02:07Z")
TV or movie characters who, given their location and occupation, probably couldn’t afford their living space in real life 1. Penny on “Big Bang Theory” 2. Buffy (after her mother died) on “Buffy the Vampire Slayer” 3. Cosmo Kramer on Seinfeld 4. Monica and Rachel on Friends, at least for the first several seasons 5. Barney Rubble on “The Flintstones”, no fixed job for any length of time (Re #2, my daughter is/was a BIG fan of Buffy, and insists that her absent-but-alive father was helping to pay the bills.) ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2014, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/22205 "2014-01-17T01:29:27Z")
TV or movie characters who, given their location and occupation, probably couldn’t afford their living space in real life 1. Penny on “Big Bang Theory” 2. Buffy (after her mother died) on “Buffy the Vampire Slayer” 3. Cosmo Kramer on Seinfeld 4. Monica and Rachel on Friends, at least for the first several seasons 5. Barney Rubble on “The Flintstones”, no fixed job for any length of time 6. Richard Castle Okay, he’s supposed to be a successful novelist. But I was reading an article on TV character apartments and it estimated that a luxury apartment in Manhattan would cost around $30,000 _a month_. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2014, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/22206 "2014-01-17T02:32:59Z")
[quote=“Little\_Nemo, post:22205, topic:549173”] TV or movie characters who, given their location and occupation, probably couldn’t afford their living space in real life 1. Penny on “Big Bang Theory” 2. Buffy (after her mother died) on “Buffy the Vampire Slayer” 3. Cosmo Kramer on Seinfeld 4. Monica and Rachel on Friends, at least for the first several seasons 5. Barney Rubble on “The Flintstones”, no fixed job for any length of time 6. Richard Castle 7. Danny Tanner, “Full House” Even though he’s a popular newscaster in the later episodes, that house is not only a perfect condition Victorian in a prime area but has at least 6,000 square feet. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2014, 7:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/22207 "2014-01-17T07:40:45Z")
TV or movie characters who, given their location and occupation, probably couldn’t afford their living space in real life 1. Penny on “Big Bang Theory” 2. Buffy (after her mother died) on “Buffy the Vampire Slayer” 3. Cosmo Kramer on Seinfeld 4. Monica and Rachel on Friends, at least for the first several seasons 5. Barney Rubble on “The Flintstones”, no fixed job for any length of time 6. Richard Castle 7. Danny Tanner, “Full House” 8. Carrie from “Sex and the City”. Newspaper columnists don’t make that kind of money, especially those who are obsessed with clothes. ---
**Author:** ![Bellhorn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@Bellhorn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bellhorn)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2014, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/22208 "2014-01-17T14:41:08Z")
TV or movie characters who, given their location and occupation, probably couldn’t afford their living space in real life 1. Penny on “Big Bang Theory” 2. Buffy (after her mother died) on “Buffy the Vampire Slayer” 3. Cosmo Kramer on Seinfeld 4. Monica and Rachel on Friends, at least for the first several seasons 5. Barney Rubble on “The Flintstones”, no fixed job for any length of time 6. Richard Castle 7. Danny Tanner, “Full House” 8. Carrie from “Sex and the City”. Newspaper columnists don’t make that kind of money, especially those who are obsessed with clothes. 9. Oscar Madison and his 2 bedroom Park Ave apt in “Odd Couple” I never knew sportswriters made 7 figure salaries. Maybe Felix chipped in on the rent with all the dough he made from shooting kids pictures. ---
**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2014, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/22209 "2014-01-17T14:47:40Z")
rent was a lot cheaper in the 60s ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2014, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/22210 "2014-01-17T14:57:02Z")
Yes, but Park Avenue was still Park Avenue. Rent was cheaper, but so were salaries. ---
**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2014, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/22211 "2014-01-17T15:01:50Z")
TV or movie characters who, given their location and occupation, probably couldn’t afford their living space in real life 1. Penny on “Big Bang Theory” 2. Buffy (after her mother died) on “Buffy the Vampire Slayer” 3. Cosmo Kramer on Seinfeld 4. Monica and Rachel on Friends, at least for the first several seasons 5. Barney Rubble on “The Flintstones”, no fixed job for any length of time 6. Richard Castle 7. Danny Tanner, “Full House” 8. Carrie from “Sex and the City”. Newspaper columnists don’t make that kind of money, especially those who are obsessed with clothes. 9. Oscar Madison and his 2 bedroom Park Ave apt in “Odd Couple” 10. Lois Lane in **Superman**. Yeah, I’ll believe a man can fly before I believe that Margot Kidder could afford that apartment. ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2014, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/22212 "2014-01-17T15:15:42Z")
TV or movie characters who, given their location and occupation, probably couldn’t afford their living space in real life 1. Penny on “Big Bang Theory” 2. Buffy (after her mother died) on “Buffy the Vampire Slayer” 3. Cosmo Kramer on Seinfeld 4. Monica and Rachel on Friends, at least for the first several seasons 5. Barney Rubble on “The Flintstones”, no fixed job for any length of time 6. Richard Castle 7. Danny Tanner, “Full House” 8. Carrie from “Sex and the City”. Newspaper columnists don’t make that kind of money, especially those who are obsessed with clothes. 9. Oscar Madison and his 2 bedroom Park Ave apt in “Odd Couple” 10. Lois Lane in Superman. Yeah, I’ll believe a man can fly before I believe that Margot Kidder could afford that apartment. 11. Thomas Magnum (I know “Robin Masters” lets him stay there for free, but it’s still true- he could NEVER afford to live there on his own income) ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2014, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/22213 "2014-01-17T15:29:19Z")
TV or movie characters who, given their location and occupation, probably couldn’t afford their living space in real life 1. Penny on “Big Bang Theory” 2. Buffy (after her mother died) on “Buffy the Vampire Slayer” 3. Cosmo Kramer on Seinfeld 4. Monica and Rachel on Friends, at least for the first several seasons 5. Barney Rubble on “The Flintstones”, no fixed job for any length of time 6. Richard Castle 7. Danny Tanner, “Full House” 8. Carrie from “Sex and the City”. Newspaper columnists don’t make that kind of money, especially those who are obsessed with clothes. 9. Oscar Madison and his 2 bedroom Park Ave apt in “Odd Couple” 10. Lois Lane in Superman. Yeah, I’ll believe a man can fly before I believe that Margot Kidder could afford that apartment. 11. Thomas Magnum (I know “Robin Masters” lets him stay there for free, but it’s still true- he could NEVER afford to live there on his own income) 12. **[The Waltons](http://www.delsjourney.com/images/close-ups/us/waltons/introductions/season_1/Scene_2a_The_Waltons_Title.jpg)**. It’s not so much the house is unaffordable, it’s how neat, ordered, and well built the thing is, especially given the times and place. And, yeah, it’s pretty freaking big for a guy who worked his own 2-person lumberyard. ---
**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2014, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/22214 "2014-01-17T15:42:34Z")
TV or movie characters who, given their location and occupation, probably couldn’t afford their living space in real life 1. Penny on “Big Bang Theory” 2. Buffy (after her mother died) on “Buffy the Vampire Slayer” 3. Cosmo Kramer on Seinfeld 4. Monica and Rachel on Friends, at least for the first several seasons 5. Barney Rubble on “The Flintstones”, no fixed job for any length of time 6. Richard Castle 7. Danny Tanner, “Full House” 8. Carrie from “Sex and the City”. Newspaper columnists don’t make that kind of money, especially those who are obsessed with clothes. 9. Oscar Madison and his 2 bedroom Park Ave apt in “Odd Couple” 10. Lois Lane in Superman. Yeah, I’ll believe a man can fly before I believe that Margot Kidder could afford that apartment. 11. Thomas Magnum (I know “Robin Masters” lets him stay there for free, but it’s still true- he could NEVER afford to live there on his own income) 12. **[The Waltons](http://www.delsjourney.com/images/close-ups/us/waltons/introductions/season_1/Scene_2a_The_Waltons_Title.jpg)**. It’s not so much the house is unaffordable, it’s how neat, ordered, and well built the thing is, especially given the times and place. And, yeah, it’s pretty freaking big for a guy who worked his own 2-person lumberyard. 13. The Man in the Yellow Hat on **Curious George** , the TV series: a fancy apartment and a large house in the country? No way. Next: Fictional Gifts that are not for Christmas or Hanukkah: 1. Mr. Beaumont gives a party dress to his daughter Mibs for her 13th birthday in Ingrid Law’s _Savvy_. ---
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2014, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/22215 "2014-01-17T15:59:04Z")
Next: Fictional Gifts that are not for Christmas or Hanukkah: 1. Mr. Beaumont gives a party dress to his daughter Mibs for her 13th birthday in Ingrid Law’s _Savvy_. 2. Hank Rearden gives a bracelet made from the first heat of Rearden Metal to Dagny Taggart in _Atlas Shrugged_. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2014, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/22216 "2014-01-17T16:11:28Z")
Next: Fictional Gifts that are not for Christmas or Hanukkah: 1. Mr. Beaumont gives a party dress to his daughter Mibs for her 13th birthday in Ingrid Law’s _Savvy_. 2. Hank Rearden gives a bracelet made from the first heat of Rearden Metal to Dagny Taggart in _Atlas Shrugged_. 3. Hank first gave it to his wife, who rejected it as being beneath her. ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2014, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/22217 "2014-01-17T16:31:01Z")
Fictional Gifts that are not for Christmas or Hanukkah: 1. Mr. Beaumont gives a party dress to his daughter Mibs for her 13th birthday in Ingrid Law’s Savvy. 2. Hank Rearden gives a bracelet made from the first heat of Rearden Metal to Dagny Taggart in Atlas Shrugged. 3. Hank first gave it to his wife, who rejected it as being beneath her. 4. The Trojan Horse (Beware of Greeks bearing gifts…) ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2014, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/22218 "2014-01-17T16:35:11Z")
Next: Fictional Gifts that are not for Christmas or Hanukkah: 1. Mr. Beaumont gives a party dress to his daughter Mibs for her 13th birthday in Ingrid Law’s _Savvy_. 2. Hank Rearden gives a bracelet made from the first heat of Rearden Metal to Dagny Taggart in _Atlas Shrugged_. 3. Hank first gave it to his wife, who rejected it as being beneath her. 4. The Trojan Horse (Beware of Greeks bearing gifts…) 5. Super rich merchant Illyrio Mopatis gives exiled princess Daemerus Targaryen three petrified dragon eggs when she is married to Khal Drogo in _Game of Thrones_ ---
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2014, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/22219 "2014-01-17T16:35:58Z")
(Actually, this is kind of embarrassing, but I got #2 wrong. (Thanks for the reminder, **JohnT**. Hank’s _wife_ actually gave the bracelet to Dagny at a party, where she’d worn it as a mark of contempt for her husband, and it wasn’t exactly a “gift”). Just in the interest of correctness. 🙂 Because of this, I’m going to change my entry: Fictional Gifts that are not for Christmas or Hanukkah: 1. Mr. Beaumont gives a party dress to his daughter Mibs for her 13th birthday in Ingrid Law’s Savvy. 2. The Tenth Doctor gives the TARDIS key to Martha Jones. 3. Hank first gave [the Rearden Metal bracelet] to his wife, who rejected it as being beneath her. 4. The Trojan Horse (Beware of Greeks bearing gifts…) 5. Super rich merchant Illyrio Mopatis gives exiled princess Daemerus Targaryen three petrified dragon eggs when she is married to Khal Drogo in _Game of Thrones_ ---
**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2014, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/22220 "2014-01-17T16:38:34Z")
Fictional Gifts that are not for Christmas or Hanukkah: 1. Mr. Beaumont gives a party dress to his daughter Mibs for her 13th birthday in Ingrid Law’s Savvy. 2. The Tenth Doctor gives the TARDIS key to Martha Jones. 3. Hank first gave [the Rearden Metal bracelet] to his wife, who rejected it as being beneath her. 4. The Trojan Horse (Beware of Greeks bearing gifts…) 5. The Eleventh Doctor gives a TARDIS key to Clara ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2014, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/22221 "2014-01-17T16:41:04Z")
Fictional Gifts that are not for Christmas or Hanukkah: 1. Mr. Beaumont gives a party dress to his daughter Mibs for her 13th birthday in Ingrid Law’s Savvy. 2. The Tenth Doctor gives the TARDIS key to Martha Jones. 3. Hank first gave [the Rearden Metal bracelet] to his wife, who rejected it as being beneath her. 4. The Trojan Horse (Beware of Greeks bearing gifts…) 5. Super rich merchant Illyrio Mopatis gives exiled princess Daemerus Targaryen three petrified dragon eggs when she is married to Khal Drogo in Game of Thrones 6. The Eleventh Doctor gives a TARDIS key to Clara 7. Poisoned pearls given to Ekaterina as a wedding gift in “Winterfair Gifts” ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2014, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/22222 "2014-01-17T17:18:30Z")
Fictional Gifts that are not for Christmas or Hanukkah: 1. Mr. Beaumont gives a party dress to his daughter Mibs for her 13th birthday in Ingrid Law’s Savvy. 2. The Tenth Doctor gives the TARDIS key to Martha Jones. 3. Hank first gave [the Rearden Metal bracelet] to his wife, who rejected it as being beneath her. 4. The Trojan Horse (Beware of Greeks bearing gifts…) 5. Super rich merchant Illyrio Mopatis gives exiled princess Daemerus Targaryen three petrified dragon eggs when she is married to Khal Drogo in Game of Thrones 6. The Eleventh Doctor gives a TARDIS key to Clara 7. Poisoned pearls given to Ekaterina as a wedding gift in “Winterfair Gifts” 8. Britney Spears is given what is implied to be the blue diamond necklace from “Titanic” in her song “Oops… I Did It Again!” ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2014, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/22223 "2014-01-17T17:18:38Z")
Fictional Gifts that are not for Christmas or Hanukkah: 1. Mr. Beaumont gives a party dress to his daughter Mibs for her 13th birthday in Ingrid Law’s Savvy. 2. The Tenth Doctor gives the TARDIS key to Martha Jones. 3. Hank first gave [the Rearden Metal bracelet] to his wife, who rejected it as being beneath her. 4. The Trojan Horse (Beware of Greeks bearing gifts…) 5. Super rich merchant Illyrio Mopatis gives exiled princess Daemerus Targaryen three petrified dragon eggs when she is married to Khal Drogo in Game of Thrones 6. The Eleventh Doctor gives a TARDIS key to Clara 7. Poisoned pearls given to Ekaterina as a wedding gift in “Winterfair Gifts” 8. Britney Spears is given what is implied to be the blue diamond necklace from “Titanic” in her song “Oops… I Did It Again!” 9. The Wizard of Oz gives the Scarecrow a diploma, the Tin Man a ticking clock heart, and the Lion a medal. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173.md?page=1110) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173.md?page=1112)