# Bakers Dozen

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2014, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/22904 "2014-02-17T23:17:37Z")

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New topic: First Ladies and Their Pet Causes

1. “Lemonade Lucy” Hayes, and temperance.
2. Nancy Regan, “Just Say No”

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**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2014, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/22905 "2014-02-17T23:38:57Z")

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New topic: First Ladies and Their Pet Causes

1. “Lemonade Lucy” Hayes, and temperance.
2. Nancy Regan, “Just Say No”
3. “Lady Bird” Johnson, environmentalism (e.g., preservation of the redwoods)

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**Author:** ![Eutychus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Eutychus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eutychus)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2014, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/22906 "2014-02-17T23:42:58Z")

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New topic: First Ladies and Their Pet Causes

1. “Lemonade Lucy” Hayes, and temperance.
2. Nancy Regan, “Just Say No”
3. “Lady Bird” Johnson, environmentalism (e.g., preservation of the redwoods)
4. Hillary Clinton - health care reform

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2014, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/22907 "2014-02-18T00:58:47Z")

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First Ladies and Their Pet Causes

1. “Lemonade Lucy” Hayes, and temperance.
2. Nancy Regan, “Just Say No”
3. “Lady Bird” Johnson, environmentalism (e.g., preservation of the redwoods)
4. Hillary Clinton - health care reform
5. Michelle Obama - healthy eating/eat local foods

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2014, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/22908 "2014-02-18T00:59:33Z")

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New topic: First Ladies and Their Pet Causes

1. “Lemonade Lucy” Hayes, and temperance.
2. Nancy Regan, “Just Say No”
3. “Lady Bird” Johnson, environmentalism (e.g., preservation of the redwoods)
4. Hillary Clinton - health care reform
5. Michelle Obama - healthy eating/eat local foods
6. Eleanor Roosevelt, civil rights

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2014, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/22909 "2014-02-18T01:52:15Z")

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New topic: First Ladies and Their Pet Causes

1. “Lemonade Lucy” Hayes, and temperance.
2. Nancy Reagan, “Just Say No”
3. “Lady Bird” Johnson, environmentalism (e.g., preservation of the redwoods)
4. Hillary Clinton - health care reform
5. Michelle Obama - healthy eating/eat local foods
6. Eleanor Roosevelt, civil rights
7. Laura Bush, literacy

Fitting for a former teacher and librarian.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2014, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/22910 "2014-02-18T02:30:48Z")

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First Ladies and Their Pet Causes

1. “Lemonade Lucy” Hayes, and temperance.
2. Nancy Reagan, “Just Say No”
3. “Lady Bird” Johnson, environmentalism (e.g., preservation of the redwoods)
4. Hillary Clinton - health care reform
5. Michelle Obama - healthy eating/eat local foods
6. Eleanor Roosevelt, civil rights
7. Laura Bush, literacy
8. Bess Truman, going back to Missouri and a normal life

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**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2014, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/22911 "2014-02-18T03:51:41Z")

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First Ladies and Their Pet Causes

1. “Lemonade Lucy” Hayes, and temperance.
2. Nancy Reagan, “Just Say No”
3. “Lady Bird” Johnson, environmentalism (e.g., preservation of the redwoods)
4. Hillary Clinton - health care reform
5. Michelle Obama - healthy eating/eat local foods
6. Eleanor Roosevelt, civil rights
7. Laura Bush, literacy
8. Bess Truman, going back to Missouri and a normal life
9. Rosalynn Carter, mental health research

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**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2014, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/22912 "2014-02-18T05:21:36Z")

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First Ladies and Their Pet Causes

1. “Lemonade Lucy” Hayes, and temperance.
2. Nancy Reagan, “Just Say No”
3. “Lady Bird” Johnson, environmentalism (e.g., preservation of the redwoods)
4. Hillary Clinton - health care reform
5. Michelle Obama - healthy eating/eat local foods
6. Eleanor Roosevelt, civil rights
7. Laura Bush, literacy
8. Bess Truman, going back to Missouri and a normal life
9. Rosalynn Carter, mental health research
10. Betty Ford, celebrity rehab clinics

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2014, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/22913 "2014-02-18T05:49:14Z")

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First Ladies and Their Pet Causes

1. “Lemonade Lucy” Hayes, and temperance.
2. Nancy Reagan, “Just Say No”
3. “Lady Bird” Johnson, environmentalism (e.g., preservation of the redwoods)
4. Hillary Clinton - health care reform
5. Michelle Obama - healthy eating/eat local foods
6. Eleanor Roosevelt, civil rights
7. Laura Bush, literacy
8. Bess Truman, going back to Missouri and a normal life
9. Rosalynn Carter, mental health research
10. Betty Ford, celebrity rehab clinics
11. Mary Lincoln, renovating the White House

Then and now she has been made out to seem somewhat frivolous for concentrating on this during the Civil War, but the place was falling down after years and years of neglect and underfunded maintenance. Congress got embarrassed enough to approve money for the project when the Prince of Wales visited and Buchanan had to borrow silverware, sheets, and dishes as well as have a round-the-clock staff work on his rooms right up until his arrival just to make them presentable.  
Of course being prone to manic episodes, Mary went disastrously overbudget. The decor she chose looks hideous to today’s eyes, but by contemporary accounts it was considered very elegant and a triumph.

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**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2014, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/22914 "2014-02-18T11:46:48Z")

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**Author:** ![Bellhorn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@Bellhorn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bellhorn)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2014, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/22915 "2014-02-18T11:46:53Z")

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First Ladies and Their Pet Causes

1. “Lemonade Lucy” Hayes, and temperance.
2. Nancy Reagan, “Just Say No”
3. “Lady Bird” Johnson, environmentalism (e.g., preservation of the redwoods)
4. Hillary Clinton - health care reform
5. Michelle Obama - healthy eating/eat local foods
6. Eleanor Roosevelt, civil rights
7. Laura Bush, literacy
8. Bess Truman, going back to Missouri and a normal life
9. Rosalynn Carter, mental health research
10. Betty Ford, celebrity rehab clinics
11. Mary Lincoln, renovating the White House
12. Dolley Madison, served as widowed Jefferson’s companion for official functions while her husband was Sec’y of State. So she was First Lady for two different presidents.
13. Florence Harding, WW I Veterans benefits, (and poisoning her husband, it’s rumored.)

New:  
Oscars given to lesser known actors/actresses (use your own judgement)

1. Dr. Haing S. Ngor, Best Supporting Actor, The Killing Fields

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**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2014, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/22916 "2014-02-18T12:03:24Z")

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New:  
Oscars given to lesser known actors/actresses (use your own judgement)

1. Dr. Haing S. Ngor, Best Supporting Actor, The Killing Fields
2. Marie Dressler, Best Actress, Min and Bill

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2014, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/22917 "2014-02-18T12:06:02Z")

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Oscars given to lesser known actors/actresses (use your own judgement)

1. Dr. Haing S. Ngor, Best Supporting Actor, The Killing Fields
2. Marie Dressler, Best Actress, Min and Bill
3. Harold Russell, Best Supporting Actor in _ **Best Years of Our Lives** _ (no acting career before WW2, not much of an acting career after this movie)

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2014, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/22918 "2014-02-18T13:50:05Z")

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Oscars given to lesser known actors/actresses (use your own judgment)

1. Dr. Haing S. Ngor, Best Supporting Actor, The Killing Fields
2. Marie Dressler, Best Actress, Min and Bill
3. Harold Russell, Best Supporting Actor in Best Years of Our Lives (no acting career before WW2, not much of an acting career after this movie)
4. Butterfly McQueen, Best Supporting Actress, _Gone With The Wind_

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2014, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/22919 "2014-02-18T14:27:01Z")

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Oscars given to lesser known actors/actresses (use your own judgment)

1. Dr. Haing S. Ngor, Best Supporting Actor, The Killing Fields
2. Marie Dressler, Best Actress, Min and Bill
3. Harold Russell, Best Supporting Actor in Best Years of Our Lives (no acting career before WW2, not much of an acting career after this movie)
4. Butterfly McQueen, Best Supporting Actress, Gone With The Wind
5. Anna Magnani, Best Actress, The Rose Tattoo (1955)

… Definitely better known in Europe, but not very well known in the States.

(BTW, Hattie McDaniel (Mammy) won BSA for GWTW, not Butterfly McQueen (Prissy.))

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2014, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/22920 "2014-02-18T14:36:35Z")

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Oops, you’re right.  
Oscars given to lesser known actors/actresses (use your own judgment)

1. Dr. Haing S. Ngor, Best Supporting Actor, The Killing Fields
2. Marie Dressler, Best Actress, Min and Bill
3. Harold Russell, Best Supporting Actor in Best Years of Our Lives (no acting career before WW2, not much of an acting career after this movie)
4. Hattie McDaniel, Best Supporting Actress, Gone With The Wind
5. Anna Magnani, Best Actress, The Rose Tattoo (1955)

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**Author:** ![Bellhorn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@Bellhorn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bellhorn)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2014, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/22921 "2014-02-18T14:49:59Z")

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Oscars given to lesser known actors/actresses (use your own judgment)

1. Dr. Haing S. Ngor, Best Supporting Actor, The Killing Fields
2. Marie Dressler, Best Actress, Min and Bill
3. Harold Russell, Best Supporting Actor in Best Years of Our Lives (no acting career before WW2, not much of an acting career after this movie)
4. Hattie McDaniel, Best Supporting Actress, Gone With The Wind
5. Anna Magnani, Best Actress, The Rose Tattoo (1955)
6. Miyoshi Umeki, Best Supporting Actress, Sayonara (1957)

(She played the housekeeper in the TV version of Courtship of Eddie’s Father, and that’s about it for regular acting roles.)

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2014, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/22922 "2014-02-18T15:46:03Z")

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Oscars given to lesser known actors/actresses (use your own judgment)

1. Dr. Haing S. Ngor, Best Supporting Actor, The Killing Fields
2. Marie Dressler, Best Actress, Min and Bill
3. Harold Russell, Best Supporting Actor in Best Years of Our Lives (no acting career before WW2, not much of an acting career after this movie)
4. Hattie McDaniel, Best Supporting Actress, Gone With The Wind
5. Anna Magnani, Best Actress, The Rose Tattoo (1955)
6. Miyoshi Umeki, Best Supporting Actress, Sayonara (1957)
7. Katina Paxinou, from _ **For Whom the Bell Tolls** _

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2014, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/22923 "2014-02-18T15:48:23Z")

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Oscars given to lesser known actors/actresses (use your own judgment)

1. Dr. Haing S. Ngor, Best Supporting Actor, The Killing Fields
2. Marie Dressler, Best Actress, Min and Bill
3. Harold Russell, Best Supporting Actor in Best Years of Our Lives (no acting career before WW2, not much of an acting career after this movie)
4. Hattie McDaniel, Best Supporting Actress, Gone With The Wind
5. Anna Magnani, Best Actress, The Rose Tattoo (1955)
6. Miyoshi Umeki, Best Supporting Actress, Sayonara (1957)
7. Cuba Gooding Jr., Best Supporting Actor, Jerry Maguire (1996)

Not much of a career since, alas.

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