# Bakers Dozen **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1244
**Author:** ![Leo\_Bloom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leo_bloom/32/10377_2.png) [@Leo\_Bloom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Bloom)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2014, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/24864 "2014-04-16T15:17:33Z")
Somebody decide quick on what constitutes a judges quorum I see three of you at least ---
**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2014, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/24865 "2014-04-16T15:26:25Z")
I’m on the “When Washington was born, Virginia was technically part of the British Empire” side, so it’s a valid answer. ---
**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2014, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/24866 "2014-04-16T15:34:41Z")
I move we permit Washington, but do a moratorium on any more presidents of the fledgling USA, all of whom born before 1776 were technically born in another country. ---
**Author:** ![Leo\_Bloom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leo_bloom/32/10377_2.png) [@Leo\_Bloom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Bloom)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2014, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/24867 "2014-04-16T15:35:28Z")
:: Anecdotes to ponder I just found from Wiki “quorum:” Quorum-busting has been used for centuries. For instance, during his time in the state legislature, Abraham Lincoln leapt out of a first story window (the doors of the Capitol had been locked to prevent legislators from fleeing) in a failed attempt to prevent a quorum from being present. And In the United States Senate, the procedure was used in the early morning hours of February 25, 1988. Senator Robert C. Byrd of West Virginia, then the Senate Majority Leader, moved a call of the house after the minority Republicans walked out in an attempt to deny the Senate a quorum after Senate aides began bringing cots into the Senate cloakrooms in preparation for an all-night session over campaign finance reform for congressional elections. Byrd’s motion was approved 45-3 and arrest warrants were signed for all 46 Republicans. Senate Sergeant-at-Arms Henry K. Giugni and his staff searched the Capitol’s corridor and Senate office buildings for absent Senators, and after checking several empty offices, spotted Senator Steve Symms of Idaho, who fled down a hallway and escaped arrest. After a cleaning woman gave a tip that Senator Robert Packwood of Oregon was in his office, Giugni opened the door with a skeleton key. Packwood attempted to shove the door closed, but Giugni and two assistants pushed it open. Packwood was “carried feet-first into the Senate chamber by three plainclothes officers” and sustained bruised knuckles. ---
**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2014, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/24868 "2014-04-16T15:50:33Z")
People who became leader of a country other than the one in which they were born. 1. Golda Meir (born in Ukraine, governed Israel) 2. Alexandra (born in Germany, last Russian czarina) 3. Simon Bolivar (born in Venezuela, president of Colombia, Bolivia and Peru) 4. George II (born in Germany, king of England) 5. George Washington (born in the Colony of Virginia, British Empire) 6. Grace Kelly (born in USA, Princess of Monaco) 7. Sir John A. Macdonald (Born in Scotland, UK - First Prime Minister of Canada) 8. (Pending Judges’ Decision) Alberto Fujimori (born Japan, President Peru) 9. Adolph Hitler (born in Austria) I’d agree that technically Washington was not born in the USA but isn’t that the case for almost all successful revolutionaries. Anybody object strongly to leaving him in and moving on? ---
**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2014, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/24869 "2014-04-16T16:08:44Z")
People who became leader of a country other than the one in which they were born. 1. Golda Meir (born in Ukraine, governed Israel) 2. Alexandra (born in Germany, last Russian czarina) 3. Simon Bolivar (born in Venezuela, president of Colombia, Bolivia and Peru) 4. George II (born in Germany, king of England) 5. George Washington (born in the Colony of Virginia, British Empire) 6. Grace Kelly (born in USA, Princess of Monaco) 7. Sir John A. Macdonald (Born in Scotland, UK - First Prime Minister of Canada) 8. (Pending Judges’ Decision) Alberto Fujimori (born Japan, President Peru) 9. Adolph Hitler (born in Austria) 10. Sixto Duran-Ballen (born USA, President of Ecuador) _Leave Washington in and move on, says the originator._ 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2014, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/24870 "2014-04-16T16:09:42Z")
People who became leader of a country other than the one in which they were born. 1. Golda Meir (born in Ukraine, governed Israel) 2. Alexandra (born in Germany, last Russian czarina) 3. Simon Bolivar (born in Venezuela, president of Colombia, Bolivia and Peru) 4. George II (born in Germany, king of England) 5. George Washington (born in the Colony of Virginia, British Empire) 6. Grace Kelly (born in USA, Princess of Monaco) 7. Sir John A. Macdonald (Born in Scotland, UK - First Prime Minister of Canada) 8. Alberto Fujimori (born Japan, President Peru) 9. Adolph Hitler (born in Austria) 10. Sixto Duran-Ballen (born USA, President of Ecuador) 11. William the Conqueror (born in Normandy, king of England) ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2014, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/24871 "2014-04-16T16:24:02Z")
People who became leader of a country other than the one in which they were born. 1. Golda Meir (born in Ukraine, governed Israel) 2. Alexandra (born in Germany, last Russian czarina) 3. Simon Bolivar (born in Venezuela, president of Colombia, Bolivia and Peru) 4. George II (born in Germany, king of England) 5. George Washington (born in the Colony of Virginia, British Empire) 6. Grace Kelly (born in USA, Princess of Monaco) 7. Sir John A. Macdonald (Born in Scotland, UK - First Prime Minister of Canada) 8. Alberto Fujimori (born Japan, President Peru) 9. Adolph Hitler (born in Austria) 10. Sixto Duran-Ballen (born USA, President of Ecuador) 11. William the Conqueror (born in Normandy, king of England) 12. Charlemagne (born in the Frankish kingdom, later king of Italy and the first Holy Roman Emperor) ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2014, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/24872 "2014-04-16T16:32:05Z")
People who became leader of a country other than the one in which they were born. 1. Golda Meir (born in Ukraine, governed Israel) 2. Alexandra (born in Germany, last Russian czarina) 3. Simon Bolivar (born in Venezuela, president of Colombia, Bolivia and Peru) 4. George II (born in Germany, king of England) 5. George Washington (born in the Colony of Virginia, British Empire) 6. Grace Kelly (born in USA, Princess of Monaco) 7. Sir John A. Macdonald (Born in Scotland, UK - First Prime Minister of Canada) 8. Alberto Fujimori (born Japan, President Peru) 9. Adolph Hitler (born in Austria) 10. Sixto Duran-Ballen (born USA, President of Ecuador) 11. William the Conqueror (born in Normandy, king of England) 12. Charlemagne (born in the Frankish kingdom, later king of Italy and the first Holy Roman Emperor) 13. Irish Prime Minister Eamann da Valera, who was born in New York City New topic: Name Two Restaurant Chains That Serve the Same Kind of Food (No repeats!) 14. KFC and Popeye’s ---
**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2014, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/24873 "2014-04-16T16:33:32Z")
Name Two Restaurant Chains That Serve the Same Kind of Food (No repeats!) 1. KFC and Popeye’s 2. Papa John’s and Little Ceasar’s ---
**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2014, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/24874 "2014-04-16T16:34:25Z")
New topic: Name Two Restaurant Chains That Serve the Same Kind of Food (No repeats!) 1. KFC and Popeye’s 2. Papa John’s and Little Caesars 3. Cafe Rio and Chipotle ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2014, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/24875 "2014-04-16T16:43:13Z")
Name Two Restaurant Chains That Serve the Same Kind of Food (No repeats!) 1. KFC and Popeye’s 2. Papa John’s and Little Caesars 3. Cafe Rio and Chipotle 4. Burger King and Wendy’s ---
**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2014, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/24876 "2014-04-16T16:44:35Z")
Name Two Restaurant Chains That Serve the Same Kind of Food (No repeats!) 1. KFC and Popeye’s 2. Papa John’s and Little Caesars 3. Cafe Rio and Chipotle 4. Burger King and Wendy’s 5. Long John Silver’s and Captain D’s ---
**Author:** ![Eutychus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Eutychus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eutychus)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2014, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/24877 "2014-04-16T16:45:38Z")
Name Two Restaurant Chains That Serve the Same Kind of Food (No repeats!) 1. KFC and Popeye’s 2. Papa John’s and Little Caesars 3. Cafe Rio and Chipotle 4. Burger King and Wendy’s 5. Long John Silver’s and Captain D’s 6. Olive Garden and Carrabba’s ---
**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2014, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/24878 "2014-04-16T16:47:00Z")
Name Two Restaurant Chains That Serve the Same Kind of Food (No repeats!) 1. KFC and Popeye’s 2. Papa John’s and Little Caesars 3. Cafe Rio and Chipotle 4. Burger King and Wendy’s 5. Long John Silver’s and Captain D’s 6. Olive Garden and Carrabba’s 7. Applebee’s and Chili’s ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2014, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/24879 "2014-04-16T16:49:21Z")
Name Two Restaurant Chains That Serve the Same Kind of Food (No repeats!) 1. KFC and Popeye’s 2. Papa John’s and Little Caesars 3. Cafe Rio and Chipotle 4. Burger King and Wendy’s 5. Long John Silver’s and Captain D’s 6. Olive Garden and Carrabba’s 7. Applebee’s and Chili’s 8. Subway and Quizno’s ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2014, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/24880 "2014-04-16T16:53:42Z")
Name Two Restaurant Chains That Serve the Same Kind of Food (No repeats!) 1. KFC and Popeye’s 2. Papa John’s and Little Caesars 3. Cafe Rio and Chipotle 4. Burger King and Wendy’s 5. Long John Silver’s and Captain D’s 6. Olive Garden and Carrabba’s 7. Applebee’s and Chili’s 8. Subway and Quizno’s 9. Taco Bell and Del Taco ---
**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2014, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/24881 "2014-04-16T16:54:09Z")
Name Two Restaurant Chains That Serve the Same Kind of Food (No repeats!) 1. KFC and Popeye’s 2. Papa John’s and Little Caesars 3. Cafe Rio and Chipotle 4. Burger King and Wendy’s 5. Long John Silver’s and Captain D’s 6. Olive Garden and Carrabba’s 7. Applebee’s and Chili’s 8. Subway and Quizno’s 9. Taco Bell and Del Taco 10. Dunkin’ Donuts and Starbuck’s ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2014, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/24882 "2014-04-16T16:59:36Z")
Name Two Restaurant Chains That Serve the Same Kind of Food (No repeats!) 1. KFC and Popeye’s 2. Papa John’s and Little Caesars 3. Cafe Rio and Chipotle 4. Burger King and Wendy’s 5. Long John Silver’s and Captain D’s 6. Olive Garden and Carrabba’s 7. Applebee’s and Chili’s 8. Subway and Quizno’s 9. Taco Bell and Del Taco 10. Dunkin’ Donuts and Starbuck’s 11. Outback and Longhorn Steakhouses ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2014, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/24883 "2014-04-16T17:03:52Z")
Name Two Restaurant Chains That Serve the Same Kind of Food (No repeats!) 1. KFC and Popeye’s 2. Papa John’s and Little Caesars 3. Cafe Rio and Chipotle 4. Burger King and Wendy’s 5. Long John Silver’s and Captain D’s 6. Olive Garden and Carrabba’s 7. Applebee’s and Chili’s 8. Subway and Quizno’s 9. Taco Bell and Del Taco 10. Dunkin’ Donuts and Starbuck’s 11. Outback and Longhorn Steakhouses 12. IHoP and Waffle House [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173.md?page=1243) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173.md?page=1245)