# Bakers Dozen

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2014, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/25244 "2014-05-04T17:15:38Z")

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Least Favorite Article/Accessory of Men’s Clothing

1. Socks (especially black socks) and sandals
2. Cummerbund
3. Necktie
4. Speedos on anyone but the extremely fit, cut, ripped, etc
5. Zoobas
6. shorts worn with dark socks

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**Author:** ![Iggy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iggy/32/3364_2.png) [@Iggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Iggy)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2014, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/25245 "2014-05-04T18:12:27Z")

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Least Favorite Article/Accessory of Men’s Clothing

1. Socks (especially black socks) and sandals
2. Cummerbund
3. Necktie
4. Speedos on anyone but the extremely fit, cut, ripped, etc
5. Zoobas
6. shorts worn with dark socks
7. Tighty whities

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**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2014, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/25246 "2014-05-04T18:35:44Z")

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Least Favorite Article/Accessory of Men’s Clothing

1. Socks (especially black socks) and sandals
2. Cummerbund
3. Necktie
4. Speedos on anyone but the extremely fit, cut, ripped, etc
5. Zoobas
6. shorts worn with dark socks
7. Tighty whities
8. Blue suit/Brown shoes

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2014, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/25247 "2014-05-04T18:43:24Z")

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> [@buddha\_david](#):
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> Not only are they dreadfully uncomfortable, its origins stem from a symbol of slavery!

Neckties did not originate as a symbol of slavery. And that article doesn’t claim they did.

The article says that neckties function as a symbol of slavery because men wear them involuntarily at work. Equating work with slavery seems like a stretch but the author never says this was the original purpose of a necktie.

The necktie’s actual origin is military. Croatian soldiers during the Thirty Years War often tied a thin scarf around their neck. Some of these Croatian soldiers ended up serving as mercenaries in France. King Louis thought the scarfs looked cool and made it an official part of their uniform. The look spread to other soldiers and then into general society. Its intent presumably was to show you were a tough guy who dressed like a soldier.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2014, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/25248 "2014-05-04T18:46:16Z")

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Least Favorite Article/Accessory of Men’s Clothing

1. Socks (especially black socks) and sandals
2. Cummerbund
3. Necktie
4. Speedos on anyone but the extremely fit, cut, ripped, etc
5. Zoobas
6. shorts worn with dark socks
7. Tighty whities
8. Blue suit/Brown shoes
9. Hats

They went out of fashion fifty years ago. The only men who wear them nowadays are [hipsters](http://www.hipsterwall.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/handsome-mens-hipster-1024x1024.jpg).

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2014, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/25249 "2014-05-04T19:19:31Z")

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Least Favorite Article/Accessory of Men’s Clothing

1. Socks (especially black socks) and sandals
2. Cummerbund
3. Necktie
4. Speedos on anyone but the extremely fit, cut, ripped, etc
5. Zoobas
6. shorts worn with dark socks
7. Tighty whities
8. Blue suit/Brown shoes
9. Hats
10. Droopy Pants

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**Author:** ![Leo\_Bloom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leo_bloom/32/10377_2.png) [@Leo\_Bloom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Bloom)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2014, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/25250 "2014-05-04T19:39:17Z")

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Now I gotta look up what a zooba is.

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**Author:** ![Leo\_Bloom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leo_bloom/32/10377_2.png) [@Leo\_Bloom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Bloom)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2014, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/25251 "2014-05-04T19:42:16Z")

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Least Favorite Article/Accessory of Men’s Clothing

1. Socks (especially black socks) and sandals
2. Cummerbund
3. Necktie
4. Speedos on anyone but the extremely fit, cut, ripped, etc
5. Zoobas
6. shorts worn with dark socks
7. Tighty whities
8. Blue suit/Brown shoes
9. Hats
10. Droopy Pants
11. French cuffs on dress shirts when I’m not in the mood or don’t have time to futz around with cufflinks.

Also, FTR, I wear a hat. One in summer and a different one in winter. Thank God for single-medium message boards, right?

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**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2014, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/25252 "2014-05-04T20:05:57Z")

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Least Favorite Article/Accessory of Men’s Clothing

1. Socks (especially black socks) and sandals
2. Cummerbund
3. Necktie
4. Speedos on anyone but the extremely fit, cut, ripped, etc
5. Zoobas
6. shorts worn with dark socks
7. Tighty whities
8. Blue suit/Brown shoes
9. Hats
10. Droopy Pants
11. French cuffs on dress shirts when I’m not in the mood or don’t have time to futz around with cufflinks.
12. Wife-beaters

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**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2014, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/25253 "2014-05-04T20:08:36Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
>
> Least Favorite Article/Accessory of Men’s Clothing
> 
> \<snip\>
> 
> 1. Hats
> 
> They went out of fashion fifty years ago. The only men who wear them nowadays are [hipsters](http://www.hipsterwall.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/handsome-mens-hipster-1024x1024.jpg).

> [@Leo\_Bloom](#):
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> \<snip\>
> 
> Also, FTR, I wear a hat. One in summer and a different one in winter. Thank God for single-medium message boards, right?

Also, FTR, I happen to like certain hats on guys. Ball caps not so much, but fedoras and porkpies, yum.

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**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2014, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/25254 "2014-05-04T20:17:51Z")

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> [@Leo\_Bloom](#):
>
> Also, FTR, I wear a hat. One in summer and a different one in winter.

Oh, it looks good on you, though. [/RodneyDangerfield]

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2014, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/25255 "2014-05-05T02:03:16Z")

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Least Favorite Article/Accessory of Men’s Clothing

1. Socks (especially black socks) and sandals
2. Cummerbund
3. Necktie
4. Speedos on anyone but the extremely fit, cut, ripped, etc
5. Zoobas
6. shorts worn with dark socks
7. Tighty whities
8. Blue suit/Brown shoes
9. Hats
10. Droopy Pants
11. French cuffs on dress shirts when I’m not in the mood or don’t have time to futz around with cufflinks.
12. Wife-beaters
13. mankinis

Next:

Sidekicks

1. Robin

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**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2014, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/25256 "2014-05-05T02:09:59Z")

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Sidekicks

1. Robin
2. Short Round

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**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2014, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/25257 "2014-05-05T02:34:30Z")

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Sidekicks

1. Robin
2. Short Round
3. Pancho

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2014, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/25258 "2014-05-05T02:37:10Z")

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Sidekicks

1. Robin
2. Short Round
3. Pancho
4. Tonto

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**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2014, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/25259 "2014-05-05T03:17:31Z")

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Sidekicks

1. Robin
2. Short Round
3. Pancho
4. Tonto
5. Donna Noble (or fill in your favorite Doctor Who companion)

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**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2014, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/25260 "2014-05-05T03:28:18Z")

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Sidekicks

1. Robin
2. Short Round
3. Pancho
4. Tonto
5. Donna Noble
6. Fallout Boy

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2014, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/25261 "2014-05-05T03:37:09Z")

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1. Robin
2. Short Round
3. Pancho
4. Tonto
5. Donna Noble
6. Fallout
7. Barney Rubble

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2014, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/25262 "2014-05-05T04:02:47Z")

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Sidekicks

1. Robin
2. Short Round
3. Pancho
4. Tonto
5. Donna Noble
6. Fallout
7. Barney Rubble
8. Kato

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**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2014, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/25263 "2014-05-05T04:43:21Z")

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Sidekicks

1. Robin
2. Short Round
3. Pancho
4. Tonto
5. Donna Noble
6. Fallout Boy
7. Barney Rubble
8. Kato
9. Hadji

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