# Bakers Dozen

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 1271

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2014, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/25404 "2014-05-07T19:16:30Z")

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Fictional Pilots/Flight Attendants:

1. Peggy Wayne, in Peggy Wayne, Sky Girl, by Betty Baxter Anderson (Who winds up doing both.)
2. Roger Murdock, your co-pilot, by Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (Airplane!)
3. Flight Attendant Elaine Dickinson (Airplane!)
4. Nancy Pryor, Chief Stewardess (Airport 1975)
5. Captain Clarence Oveur (Airplane!)
6. Glen Quagmire (at least he used to be) (Family Guy)
7. Jackie Brown (Jackie Brown)
8. Jock Lindsey (and his pet snake Reggie) (Raiders of the Lost Ark)
9. Pres. Thomas J. Whitmore (Independence Day)

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2014, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/25405 "2014-05-07T19:42:13Z")

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Fictional Pilots/Flight Attendants:

1. Peggy Wayne, in Peggy Wayne, Sky Girl, by Betty Baxter Anderson (Who winds up doing both.)
2. Roger Murdock, your co-pilot, by Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (Airplane!)
3. Flight Attendant Elaine Dickinson (Airplane!)
4. Nancy Pryor, Chief Stewardess (Airport 1975)
5. Captain Clarence Oveur (Airplane!)
6. Glen Quagmire (at least he used to be) (Family Guy)
7. Jackie Brown (Jackie Brown)
8. Jock Lindsey (and his pet snake Reggie) (Raiders of the Lost Ark)
9. Pres. Thomas J. Whitmore (Independence Day)
10. Mitchell Gant (_Firefox_ and its sequels)

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2014, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/25406 "2014-05-07T19:57:16Z")

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Fictional Pilots/Flight Attendants:

1. Peggy Wayne, in Peggy Wayne, Sky Girl, by Betty Baxter Anderson (Who winds up doing both.)
2. Roger Murdock, your co-pilot, by Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (Airplane!)
3. Flight Attendant Elaine Dickinson (Airplane!)
4. Nancy Pryor, Chief Stewardess (Airport 1975)
5. Captain Clarence Oveur (Airplane!)
6. Glen Quagmire (at least he used to be) (Family Guy)
7. Jackie Brown (Jackie Brown)
8. Jock Lindsey (and his pet snake Reggie) (Raiders of the Lost Ark)
9. Pres. Thomas J. Whitmore (Independence Day)
10. Mitchell Gant (Firefox and its sequels)
11. James “Biggles” Bigglesworth, hero of countless kiddie stories in England

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**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2014, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/25407 "2014-05-07T20:01:13Z")

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Fictional Pilots/Flight Attendants:

1. Peggy Wayne, in Peggy Wayne, Sky Girl, by Betty Baxter Anderson (Who winds up doing both.)
2. Roger Murdock, your co-pilot, by Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (Airplane!)
3. Flight Attendant Elaine Dickinson (Airplane!)
4. Nancy Pryor, Chief Stewardess (Airport 1975)
5. Captain Clarence Oveur (Airplane!)
6. Glen Quagmire (at least he used to be) (Family Guy)
7. Jackie Brown (Jackie Brown)
8. Jock Lindsey (and his pet snake Reggie) (Raiders of the Lost Ark)
9. Pres. Thomas J. Whitmore (Independence Day)
10. Mitchell Gant (Firefox and its sequels)
11. James “Biggles” Bigglesworth, hero of countless kiddie stories in England
12. Clancy Bouvier (Marge Simpson’s father, revealed to have been an airplane steward in the episode “Fear of Flying”)

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**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2014, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/25408 "2014-05-07T20:04:56Z")

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Fictional Pilots/Flight Attendants:

1. Peggy Wayne, in Peggy Wayne, Sky Girl, by Betty Baxter Anderson (Who winds up doing both.)
2. Roger Murdock, your co-pilot, by Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (Airplane!)
3. Flight Attendant Elaine Dickinson (Airplane!)
4. Nancy Pryor, Chief Stewardess (Airport 1975)
5. Captain Clarence Oveur (Airplane!)
6. Glen Quagmire (at least he used to be) (Family Guy)
7. Jackie Brown (Jackie Brown)
8. Jock Lindsey (and his pet snake Reggie) (Raiders of the Lost Ark)
9. Pres. Thomas J. Whitmore (Independence Day)
10. Mitchell Gant (Firefox and its sequels)
11. James “Biggles” Bigglesworth, hero of countless kiddie stories in England
12. Clancy Bouvier (Marge Simpson’s father, revealed to have been an airplane steward in the episode “Fear of Flying”)
13. Han Solo

Next: **People who were famously horrible at their job/occupation**

1. Florence Foster Jenkins, opera singer

> **[Florence Foster Jenkins](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florence_Foster_Jenkins)**
>
> Florence Foster Jenkins (born Narcissa Florence Foster;\[a\] July 19, 1868 – November 26, 1944) was an American socialite and amateur soprano who became known, and mocked, for her flamboyant performance costumes and notably poor singing ability. Stephen Pile ranked her "the world's worst opera singer ... No one, before or since, has succeeded in liberating themselves quite so completely from the shackles of musical notation."
> Despite – or perhaps because of – her technical incompetence, she bec...

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**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2014, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/25409 "2014-05-07T20:09:28Z")

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**People who were famously horrible at their job/occupation**

1. Florence Foster Jenkins, opera singer
2. Michael D. Brown, director of FEMA 2003-2005 (infamous for mis-handling the Hurricane Katrina disaster)

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**Post date:** [May 7, 2014, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/25410 "2014-05-07T20:12:37Z")

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People who were famously horrible at their job/occupation

1. Florence Foster Jenkins, opera singer
2. Michael D. Brown, director of FEMA 2003-2005 (infamous for mis-handling the Hurricane Katrina disaster)
3. Ed Wood (movie “director”)

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2014, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/25411 "2014-05-07T20:55:27Z")

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People who were famously horrible at their job/occupation

1. Florence Foster Jenkins, opera singer
2. Michael D. Brown, director of FEMA 2003-2005 (infamous for mis-handling the Hurricane Katrina disaster)
3. Ed Wood (movie “director”)
4. Joseph Hazelwood, oil tanker captain

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**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2014, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/25412 "2014-05-07T21:00:11Z")

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People who were famously horrible at their job/occupation

1. Florence Foster Jenkins, opera singer
2. Michael D. Brown, director of FEMA 2003-2005 (infamous for mis-handling the Hurricane Katrina disaster)
3. Ed Wood (movie “director”)
4. Joseph Hazelwood, oil tanker captain
5. Mario Mendoza, baseball player

_He was actually a decent defensive shortstop, as evidenced by his eight-season MLB career, but when your name and career batting average (.200, the “Mendoza Line”) become the nickname for the threshold of terrible hitting, that pretty much sums up “famously horrible.”_

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**Post date:** [May 7, 2014, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/25413 "2014-05-07T21:36:20Z")

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People who were famously horrible at their job/occupation

1. Florence Foster Jenkins, opera singer
2. Michael D. Brown, director of FEMA 2003-2005 (infamous for mis-handling the Hurricane Katrina disaster)
3. Ed Wood (movie “director”)
4. Joseph Hazelwood, oil tanker captain
5. Mario Mendoza, baseball player
6. Tommy Wiseau, screenwriter/director/star of **The Room**

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2014, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/25414 "2014-05-07T22:00:59Z")

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People who were famously horrible at their job/occupation

1. Florence Foster Jenkins, opera singer
2. Michael D. Brown, director of FEMA 2003-2005 (infamous for mis-handling the Hurricane Katrina disaster)
3. Ed Wood (movie “director”)
4. Joseph Hazelwood, oil tanker captain
5. Mario Mendoza, baseball player
6. Tommy Wiseau, screenwriter/director/star of **The Room**
7. Francesco Schettino, cruise ship captain

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2014, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/25415 "2014-05-07T22:31:21Z")

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People who were famously horrible at their job/occupation

1. Florence Foster Jenkins, opera singer
2. Michael D. Brown, director of FEMA 2003-2005 (infamous for mis-handling the Hurricane Katrina disaster)
3. Ed Wood (movie “director”)
4. Joseph Hazelwood, oil tanker captain
5. Mario Mendoza, baseball player
6. Tommy Wiseau, screenwriter/director/star of The Room
7. Francesco Schettino, cruise ship captain
8. Douglas “Wrong Way” Corrigan, aviator

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**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2014, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/25416 "2014-05-07T22:31:49Z")

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People who were famously horrible at their job/occupation

1. Florence Foster Jenkins, opera singer
2. Michael D. Brown, director of FEMA 2003-2005 (infamous for mis-handling the Hurricane Katrina disaster)
3. Ed Wood (movie “director”)
4. Joseph Hazelwood, oil tanker captain
5. Mario Mendoza, baseball player
6. Tommy Wiseau, screenwriter/director/star of **The Room**
7. Francesco Schettino, cruise ship captain
8. Brian Collins (the “Boom goes the dynamite!” guy)

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2014, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/25417 "2014-05-07T22:44:01Z")

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People who were famously horrible at their job/occupation

1. Florence Foster Jenkins, opera singer
2. Michael D. Brown, director of FEMA 2003-2005 (infamous for mis-handling the Hurricane Katrina disaster)
3. Ed Wood (movie “director”)
4. Joseph Hazelwood, oil tanker captain
5. Mario Mendoza, baseball player
6. Tommy Wiseau, screenwriter/director/star of The Room
7. Francesco Schettino, cruise ship captain
8. Brian Collins (the “Boom goes the dynamite!” guy)
9. Bob Uecker, baseball player  
In 1967, despite playing only 59 games, he led the league in passed balls and is still on the top 10 list for most passed balls in a season. But to be fair, at least a partial explanation is that he spent a good deal of the season catching knuckleballer Phil Niekro.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2014, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/25418 "2014-05-07T22:49:12Z")

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People who were famously horrible at their job/occupation

1. Florence Foster Jenkins, opera singer
2. Michael D. Brown, director of FEMA 2003-2005 (infamous for mis-handling the Hurricane Katrina disaster)
3. Ed Wood (movie “director”)
4. Joseph Hazelwood, oil tanker captain
5. Mario Mendoza, baseball player
6. Tommy Wiseau, screenwriter/director/star of The Room
7. Francesco Schettino, cruise ship captain
8. Brian Collins (the “Boom goes the dynamite!” guy)
9. Bob Uecker, baseball player
10. Antonio Lopez de Santa Anna, general

Fairly skilled as a politician, though, which is why he kept getting back into power despite losing so many battles.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2014, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/25419 "2014-05-08T00:08:07Z")

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People who were famously horrible at their job/occupation

1. Florence Foster Jenkins, opera singer
2. Michael D. Brown, director of FEMA 2003-2005 (infamous for mis-handling the Hurricane Katrina disaster)
3. Ed Wood (movie “director”)
4. Joseph Hazelwood, oil tanker captain
5. Mario Mendoza, baseball player
6. Tommy Wiseau, screenwriter/director/star of The Room
7. Francesco Schettino, cruise ship captain
8. Brian Collins (the “Boom goes the dynamite!” guy)
9. Bob Uecker, baseball player
10. Antonio Lopez de Santa Anna, general
11. Douglas “Wrong Way” Corrigan, aviator

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**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2014, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/25420 "2014-05-08T01:55:03Z")

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People who were famously horrible at their job/occupation

1. Florence Foster Jenkins, opera singer
2. Michael D. Brown, director of FEMA 2003-2005 (infamous for mis-handling the Hurricane Katrina disaster)
3. Ed Wood (movie “director”)
4. Joseph Hazelwood, oil tanker captain
5. Mario Mendoza, baseball player
6. Tommy Wiseau, screenwriter/director/star of The Room
7. Francesco Schettino, cruise ship captain
8. Brian Collins (the “Boom goes the dynamite!” guy)
9. Bob Uecker, baseball player
10. Antonio Lopez de Santa Anna, general
11. Douglas “Wrong Way” Corrigan, aviator
12. Amanda McKittrick Ros, author of “[Irene Iddesleigh](http://litreactor.com/news/now-you-can-read-the-worst-novel-ever-written-for-free),” called “the worst novel ever written”

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**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2014, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/25421 "2014-05-08T02:17:16Z")

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People who were famously horrible at their job/occupation

1. Florence Foster Jenkins, opera singer

2. Michael D. Brown, director of FEMA 2003-2005 (infamous for mis-handling the Hurricane Katrina disaster)

3. Ed Wood (movie “director”)

4. Joseph Hazelwood, oil tanker captain

5. Mario Mendoza, baseball player

6. Tommy Wiseau, screenwriter/director/star of The Room

7. Francesco Schettino, cruise ship captain

8. Brian Collins (the “Boom goes the dynamite!” guy)

9. Bob Uecker, baseball player

10. Antonio Lopez de Santa Anna, general

11. Douglas “Wrong Way” Corrigan, aviator

12. Amanda McKittrick Ros, author of “[Irene Iddesleigh](http://litreactor.com/news/now-you-can-read-the-worst-novel-ever-written-for-free),” called “the worst novel ever written”

13. Alexis “Magic Alex” Mardas, inventor/electronics specialist for the Beatles

Old-School Nickelodeon Shows

1. Standby Lights Camera Action

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2014, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/25422 "2014-05-08T02:20:25Z")

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Old-School Nickelodeon Shows

1. Standby Lights Camera Action
2. You Can’t Do That on Television

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**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2014, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/25423 "2014-05-08T02:24:04Z")

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Old-School Nickelodeon Shows

1. Standby Lights Camera Action
2. You Can’t Do That on Television
3. Doug

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