# Bakers Dozen **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1276
**Author:** ![Leo\_Bloom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leo_bloom/32/10377_2.png) [@Leo\_Bloom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Bloom)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2014, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/25504 "2014-05-11T17:26:08Z")
Favorite quotations. 1. A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds. -Ralph Waldo Emerson 2. What’s the point of being grown up if you can’t be childish now and then? - Fourth Doctor (as portrayed by Tom Baker) 3. Toto, I’ve a feeling we’re not in Kansas any more. - Dorothy Gale (The Wizard Of Oz) 4. Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. - Hanlon’s Razor 5. I disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it. - attrib. to Voltaire 6. Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I’m not sure about the the universe. - Albert Einstein 7. 90% of everything is crap. - Theodore Sturgeon 8. Why can’t everybody leave everybody else the hell alone? - Jimmy Durante 9. No wonder nobody comes here; it’s too crowded. - Yogi Berra 10. Eighty percent of life is showing up. - Woody Allen :: I dare say, re last dozen, that millions on millions of people read Psalms (complete) and Numbers every year. I certainly did. Psalms, repeatedly per annum.:: ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2014, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/25505 "2014-05-11T17:28:41Z")
Favorite quotations. 1. A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds. -Ralph Waldo Emerson 2. What’s the point of being grown up if you can’t be childish now and then? - Fourth Doctor (as portrayed by Tom Baker) 3. Toto, I’ve a feeling we’re not in Kansas any more. - Dorothy Gale (The Wizard Of Oz) 4. Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. - Hanlon’s Razor 5. I disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it. - attrib. to Voltaire 6. Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I’m not sure about the the universe. - Albert Einstein 7. 90% of everything is crap. - Theodore Sturgeon 8. Why can’t everybody leave everybody else the hell alone? - Jimmy Durante 9. No wonder nobody comes here; it’s too crowded. - Yogi Berra 10. Eighty percent of life is showing up. - Woody Allen 11. For happily the Government of the United States, which gives to bigotry no sanction, to persecution no assistance, requires only that they who live under its protection, should demean themselves as good citizens. - George Washington More here: [http://www.tourosynagogue.org/index.php/history-learning/gw-letter](http://www.tourosynagogue.org/index.php/history-learning/gw-letter) ---
**Author:** ![Ponch8](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponch8/32/9883_2.png) [@Ponch8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponch8)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2014, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/25506 "2014-05-11T18:02:40Z")
Favorite quotations. 1. A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds. -Ralph Waldo Emerson 2. What’s the point of being grown up if you can’t be childish now and then? - Fourth Doctor (as portrayed by Tom Baker) 3. Toto, I’ve a feeling we’re not in Kansas any more. - Dorothy Gale (The Wizard Of Oz) 4. Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. - Hanlon’s Razor 5. I disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it. - attrib. to Voltaire 6. Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I’m not sure about the the universe. - Albert Einstein 7. 90% of everything is crap. - Theodore Sturgeon 8. Why can’t everybody leave everybody else the hell alone? - Jimmy Durante 9. No wonder nobody comes here; it’s too crowded. - Yogi Berra 10. Eighty percent of life is showing up. - Woody Allen 11. For happily the Government of the United States, which gives to bigotry no sanction, to persecution no assistance, requires only that they who live under its protection, should demean themselves as good citizens. - George Washington 12. Don’t show people how to do things. Tell them what to do, and they will surprise you with their ingenuity. - General Patton (I first heard it from Mr. Anderson on Beavis and Butt-head.) ---
**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2014, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/25507 "2014-05-11T19:37:40Z")
Favorite quotations. 1. A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds. -Ralph Waldo Emerson 2. What’s the point of being grown up if you can’t be childish now and then? - Fourth Doctor (as portrayed by Tom Baker) 3. Toto, I’ve a feeling we’re not in Kansas any more. - Dorothy Gale (The Wizard Of Oz) 4. Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. - Hanlon’s Razor 5. I disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it. - attrib. to Voltaire 6. Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I’m not sure about the the universe. - Albert Einstein 7. 90% of everything is crap. - Theodore Sturgeon 8. Why can’t everybody leave everybody else the hell alone? - Jimmy Durante 9. No wonder nobody comes here; it’s too crowded. - Yogi Berra 10. Eighty percent of life is showing up. - Woody Allen 11. For happily the Government of the United States, which gives to bigotry no sanction, to persecution no assistance, requires only that they who live under its protection, should demean themselves as good citizens. - George Washington 12. Don’t show people how to do things. Tell them what to do, and they will surprise you with their ingenuity. - General Patton 13. The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity. - William Butler Yeats The Worst Mothers in Fiction 1. Livia Soprano ---
**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2014, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/25508 "2014-05-11T20:47:53Z")
The Worst Mothers in Fiction 1. Livia Soprano 2. Mrs. Iselin, in The Manchurian Candidate ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2014, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/25509 "2014-05-11T21:20:01Z")
The Worst Mothers in Fiction 1. Livia Soprano 2. Mrs. Iselin, in The Manchurian Candidate 3. The Other Mother, in Coraline by Neil Gaiman ---
**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2014, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/25510 "2014-05-11T21:45:12Z")
The Worst Mothers in Fiction 1. Livia Soprano 2. Mrs. Iselin, in The Manchurian Candidate 3. The Other Mother, in Coraline by Neil Gaiman 4. Sybil’s mother ---
**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2014, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/25511 "2014-05-11T22:07:38Z")
The Worst Mothers in Fiction 1. Livia Soprano 2. Mrs. Iselin, in The Manchurian Candidate 3. The Other Mother, in Coraline by Neil Gaiman 4. Sybil’s mother 5. Lois, Malcolm in the Middle ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2014, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/25512 "2014-05-11T22:26:50Z")
The Worst Mothers in Fiction 1. Livia Soprano 2. Mrs. Iselin, in The Manchurian Candidate 3. The Other Mother, in Coraline by Neil Gaiman 4. Sybil’s mother 5. Lois, Malcolm in the Middle 6. Margaret White, _Carrie_ ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2014, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/25513 "2014-05-11T22:54:33Z")
The Worst Mothers in Fiction 1. Livia Soprano 2. Mrs. Iselin, in The Manchurian Candidate 3. The Other Mother, in Coraline by Neil Gaiman 4. Sybil’s mother 5. Lois, Malcolm in the Middle 6. Margaret White, _Carrie_ 7. The mom–and \*her \*mom–from _Flowers In The Attic_ ---
**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2014, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/25514 "2014-05-11T23:07:50Z")
The Worst Mothers in Fiction 1. Livia Soprano 2. Mrs. Iselin, in The Manchurian Candidate 3. The Other Mother, in Coraline by Neil Gaiman 4. Sybil’s mother 5. Lois, Malcolm in the Middle 6. Margaret White, _Carrie_ 7. The mom–and \*her \*mom–from _Flowers In The Attic_ 8. Billy Bibbit’s mom in _One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest_ (never seen onscreen but referred to many times) ---
**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2014, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/25515 "2014-05-11T23:11:16Z")
The Worst Mothers in Fiction 1. Livia Soprano 2. Mrs. Iselin, in The Manchurian Candidate 3. The Other Mother, in Coraline by Neil Gaiman 4. Sybil’s mother 5. Lois, Malcolm in the Middle 6. Margaret White, _Carrie_ 7. The mom–and \*her \*mom–from _Flowers In The Attic_ 8. Billy Bibbit’s mom in _One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest_ (never seen onscreen but referred to many times) 9. Madea (the one in Euripides’ play and not the Tyler Perry creation) ---
**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2014, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/25516 "2014-05-11T23:15:27Z")
The Worst Mothers in Fiction 1. Livia Soprano 2. Mrs. Iselin, in The Manchurian Candidate 3. The Other Mother, in Coraline by Neil Gaiman 4. Sybil’s mother 5. Lois, Malcolm in the Middle 6. Margaret White, Carrie 7. The mom–and her mom–from Flowers In The Attic 8. Billy Bibbit’s mom in One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest (never seen onscreen but referred to many times) 9. Madea (the one in Euripides’ play and not the Tyler Perry creation) 10. Mrs. Wormwood (Matilda’s mom) ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2014, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/25517 "2014-05-11T23:20:37Z")
The Worst Mothers in Fiction 1. Livia Soprano 2. Mrs. Iselin, in The Manchurian Candidate 3. The Other Mother, in Coraline by Neil Gaiman 4. Sybil’s mother 5. Lois, Malcolm in the Middle 6. Margaret White, Carrie 7. The mom–and her mom–from Flowers In The Attic 8. Billy Bibbit’s mom in One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest (never seen onscreen but referred to many times) 9. Madea (the one in Euripides’ play and not the Tyler Perry creation) 10. Mrs. Wormwood (Matilda’s mom) 11 Norma Bates, from Psycho (The one in Euripides’ play is Medea.) ---
**Author:** ![CheshireKat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheshirekat/32/1207_2.png) [@CheshireKat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CheshireKat)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2014, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/25518 "2014-05-11T23:52:29Z")
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**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2014, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/25519 "2014-05-12T00:07:46Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > The Worst Mothers in Fiction > > 1. Livia Soprano > 2. Mrs. Iselin, in The Manchurian Candidate > 3. The Other Mother, in Coraline by Neil Gaiman > 4. Sybil’s mother > 5. Lois, Malcolm in the Middle > 6. Margaret White, Carrie > 7. The mom–and her mom–from Flowers In The Attic > 8. Billy Bibbit’s mom in One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest (never seen onscreen but referred to many times) > 9. M_e_dea (the one in Euripides’ play and not the Tyler Perry creation) > 10. Mrs. Wormwood (Matilda’s mom) > 11 Norma Bates, from Psycho > > (The one in Euripides’ play is Medea.) Typo duly noted and corrected. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2014, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/25520 "2014-05-12T00:50:50Z")
The Worst Mothers in Fiction 1. Livia Soprano 2. Mrs. Iselin, in The Manchurian Candidate 3. The Other Mother, in Coraline by Neil Gaiman 4. Sybil’s mother 5. Lois, Malcolm in the Middle 6. Margaret White, Carrie 7. The mom–and her mom–from Flowers In The Attic 8. Billy Bibbit’s mom in One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest (never seen onscreen but referred to many times) 9. Medea (the one in Euripides’ play and not the Tyler Perry creation) 10. Mrs. Wormwood (Matilda’s mom) 11 Norma Bates, from Psycho 11. Ungoliant, from The Silmarillion A huge and evil spider, and mother of many other spiders. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2014, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/25521 "2014-05-12T01:19:49Z")
The Worst Mothers in Fiction 1. Livia Soprano 2. Mrs. Iselin, in The Manchurian Candidate 3. The Other Mother, in Coraline by Neil Gaiman 4. Sybil’s mother 5. Lois, Malcolm in the Middle 6. Margaret White, Carrie 7. The mom–and her mom–from Flowers In The Attic 8. Billy Bibbit’s mom in One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest (never seen onscreen but referred to many times) 9. Medea (the one in Euripides’ play and not the Tyler Perry creation) 10. Mrs. Wormwood (Matilda’s mom) 11 Norma Bates, from Psycho 11. Ungoliant, from The Silmarillion 12. Ma Mattulich, _The Mountains of Mourning_ I’ll pass. ---
**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2014, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/25522 "2014-05-12T03:15:49Z")
New: Name a famous person, group, or work of art with a flower in its name. 1. Green Carnation. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2014, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/25523 "2014-05-12T03:25:37Z")
Name a famous person, group, or work of art with a flower in its name. 1. Green Carnation. 2. Pete Rose [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173.md?page=1275) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173.md?page=1277)