# Bakers Dozen

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 1304

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2014, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/26064 "2014-05-23T21:07:52Z")

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U.S. military personnel worthy of being remembered this Memorial Day weekend

1. Maj. Gen. George Henry Thomas - “The Rock of Chickamauga,” a Virginian who remained loyal to the Union, and went on to serve with great distinction
2. Jimmy Stewart, who left a rich, comfortable life in Hollywood to join the Army Air Corps.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/26065 "2014-05-24T00:32:05Z")

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U.S. military personnel worthy of being remembered this Memorial Day weekend

1. Maj. Gen. George Henry Thomas - “The Rock of Chickamauga,” a Virginian who remained loyal to the Union, and went on to serve with great distinction
2. Jimmy Stewart, who left a rich, comfortable life in Hollywood to join the Army Air Corps.
3. Richard Cowan, Medal of Honor recipient, World War II

The only Medal of Honor recipient from my alma mater, Oberlin College: [Richard Cowan (soldier) - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Cowan_(soldier))

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**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/26066 "2014-05-24T00:39:43Z")

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U.S. military personnel worthy of being remembered this Memorial Day weekend

1. Maj. Gen. George Henry Thomas - “The Rock of Chickamauga,” a Virginian who remained loyal to the Union, and went on to serve with great distinction
2. Jimmy Stewart, who left a rich, comfortable life in Hollywood to join the Army Air Corps.
3. Richard Cowan, Medal of Honor recipient, World War II
4. Audie Murphy, recipient of many medals, World War II

_Probably America’s most famous war hero. Captain America without the steroids - only joined the infantry because both the Marines and paratroopers rejected him for being too small. An argument was made that he was_ **too short to play himself in his own biopic,** _so out of proportion was his badassery with his physique._

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**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/26067 "2014-05-24T01:36:45Z")

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U.S. military personnel worthy of being remembered this Memorial Day weekend

1. Maj. Gen. George Henry Thomas - “The Rock of Chickamauga,” a Virginian who remained loyal to the Union, and went on to serve with great distinction
2. Jimmy Stewart, who left a rich, comfortable life in Hollywood to join the Army Air Corps.
3. Richard Cowan, Medal of Honor recipient, World War II
4. Audie Murphy, recipient of many medals, World War II
5. Robert Feller, “Bullet Bob”, Enlisted in the US Navy 2 days after Pearl Harbor, after he returned home from visiting his dying father. Was a pitching phenom when he enlisted, starting for the Cleveland Indians in 1936 at the age of 17. Was the first professional athlete to enlist in the armed services in WWII. Was offered non-combat roles but instead requested and received combat duty, and served in combat missions on the USS Alabama, receiving 8 battle stars for service in North Atlantic and Pacific.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/26068 "2014-05-24T03:54:34Z")

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U.S. military personnel worthy of being remembered this Memorial Day weekend

1. Maj. Gen. George Henry Thomas - “The Rock of Chickamauga,” a Virginian who remained loyal to the Union, and went on to serve with great distinction
2. Jimmy Stewart, who left a rich, comfortable life in Hollywood to join the Army Air Corps.
3. Richard Cowan, Medal of Honor recipient, World War II
4. Audie Murphy, recipient of many medals, World War II
5. Robert Feller, “Bullet Bob”
6. Philip St. George Cooke - a Virginia born cavalry general who in spite of being a Virginian, a slaveowner, the father of a Confederate general and the father-in-law of J.E.B. Stuart remained loyal to the union throughout the war.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/26069 "2014-05-24T04:06:25Z")

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U.S. military personnel worthy of being remembered this Memorial Day weekend

1. Maj. Gen. George Henry Thomas - “The Rock of Chickamauga,” a Virginian who remained loyal to the Union, and went on to serve with great distinction
2. Jimmy Stewart, who left a rich, comfortable life in Hollywood to join the Army Air Corps.
3. Richard Cowan, Medal of Honor recipient, World War II
4. Audie Murphy, recipient of many medals, World War II
5. Robert Feller, “Bullet Bob”
6. Philip St. George Cooke - a Virginia born cavalry general who in spite of being a Virginian, a slaveowner, the father of a Confederate general and the father-in-law of J.E.B. Stuart remained loyal to the Union throughout the war.
7. Peter Francisco, the “Virginia Giant” of the Revolution

> **[Peter Francisco](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Francisco)**
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> Peter Francisco (born Pedro Francisco; July 9, 1760 – January 16, 1831) known variously as the "India," the "Giant of the Revolution," and occasionally the "Virginia Hercules," was a Portuguese-born American patriot and soldier in the American Revolutionary War.
> Francisco is shrouded in mystery. It is believed he was born on July 9, 1760, at Porto Judeu, on the island of Terceira, in the Archipelago of the Azores, Portugal. In the case of the origin of his identification with the child named P...

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/26070 "2014-05-24T04:30:16Z")

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U.S. military personnel worthy of being remembered this Memorial Day weekend

1. Maj. Gen. George Henry Thomas - “The Rock of Chickamauga,” a Virginian who remained loyal to the Union, and went on to serve with great distinction
2. Jimmy Stewart, who left a rich, comfortable life in Hollywood to join the Army Air Corps.
3. Richard Cowan, Medal of Honor recipient, World War II
4. Audie Murphy, recipient of many medals, World War II
5. Robert Feller, “Bullet Bob”
6. Philip St. George Cooke - a Virginia born cavalry general who in spite of being a Virginian, a slaveowner, the father of a Confederate general and the father-in-law of J.E.B. Stuart remained loyal to the Union throughout the war.
7. Peter Francisco, the “Virginia Giant” of the Revolution
8. Sgt William H. Carney, Civil War volunteer, first black soldier to receive the Medal of Honor

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/26071 "2014-05-24T04:45:30Z")

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U.S. military personnel worthy of being remembered this Memorial Day weekend

1. Maj. Gen. George Henry Thomas - “The Rock of Chickamauga,” a Virginian who remained loyal to the Union, and went on to serve with great distinction
2. Jimmy Stewart, who left a rich, comfortable life in Hollywood to join the Army Air Corps.
3. Richard Cowan, Medal of Honor recipient, World War II
4. Audie Murphy, recipient of many medals, World War II
5. Robert Feller, “Bullet Bob”
6. Philip St. George Cooke
7. Peter Francisco, the “Virginia Giant” of the Revolution
8. Sgt William H. Carney, Civil War volunteer, first black soldier to receive the Medal of Honor
9. Max Cleland, triple amputee Vietnam veteran and Senator from GA

He was accused of a lack of patriotism by Saxby Chambliss, who was registered 4f after his college deferments were exhausted, and who beat him in the 2002 election.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/26072 "2014-05-24T12:12:55Z")

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U.S. military personnel worthy of being remembered this Memorial Day weekend

1. Maj. Gen. George Henry Thomas - “The Rock of Chickamauga,” a Virginian who remained loyal to the Union, and went on to serve with great distinction
2. Jimmy Stewart, who left a rich, comfortable life in Hollywood to join the Army Air Corps.
3. Richard Cowan, Medal of Honor recipient, World War II
4. Audie Murphy, recipient of many medals, World War II
5. Robert Feller, “Bullet Bob”
6. Philip St. George Cooke
7. Peter Francisco, the “Virginia Giant” of the Revolution
8. Sgt William H. Carney, Civil War volunteer, first black soldier to receive the Medal of Honor
9. Max Cleland, triple amputee Vietnam veteran and Senator from GA
10. Ira Hayes (I’ll uses him as shorthand for all the Marines at Iwo Jima)  
Nitpick: Bob Feller was “Rapid Robert”

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/26073 "2014-05-24T12:33:38Z")

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U.S. military personnel worthy of being remembered this Memorial Day weekend

1. Maj. Gen. George Henry Thomas - “The Rock of Chickamauga,” a Virginian who remained loyal to the Union, and went on to serve with great distinction
2. Jimmy Stewart, who left a rich, comfortable life in Hollywood to join the Army Air Corps.
3. Richard Cowan, Medal of Honor recipient, World War II
4. Audie Murphy, recipient of many medals, World War II
5. Robert Feller, “Bullet Bob”
6. Philip St. George Cooke
7. Peter Francisco, the “Virginia Giant” of the Revolution
8. Sgt William H. Carney, Civil War volunteer, first black soldier to receive the Medal of Honor
9. Max Cleland, triple amputee Vietnam veteran and Senator from GA
10. Ira Hayes (I’ll use him as shorthand for all the Marines at Iwo Jima)
11. Lewis B. “Chesty” Puller, USMC

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**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/26074 "2014-05-24T15:22:39Z")

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U.S. military personnel worthy of being remembered this Memorial Day weekend

1. Maj. Gen. George Henry Thomas - “The Rock of Chickamauga,” a Virginian who remained loyal to the Union, and went on to serve with great distinction
2. Jimmy Stewart, who left a rich, comfortable life in Hollywood to join the Army Air Corps.
3. Richard Cowan, Medal of Honor recipient, World War II
4. Audie Murphy, recipient of many medals, World War II
5. Robert Feller, “Bullet Bob”
6. Philip St. George Cooke
7. Peter Francisco, the “Virginia Giant” of the Revolution
8. Sgt William H. Carney, Civil War volunteer, first black soldier to receive the Medal of Honor
9. Max Cleland, triple amputee Vietnam veteran and Senator from GA
10. Ira Hayes (I’ll use him as shorthand for all the Marines at Iwo Jima)
11. Lewis B. “Chesty” Puller, USMC
12. Specialist Lawrence Joel, a medic who was awarded the Medal of Honor for treating other soldiers under fire while severely wounded himself, in Vietnam

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/26075 "2014-05-24T18:04:15Z")

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U.S. military personnel worthy of being remembered this Memorial Day weekend

1. Maj. Gen. George Henry Thomas - “The Rock of Chickamauga,” a Virginian who remained loyal to the Union, and went on to serve with great distinction
2. Jimmy Stewart, who left a rich, comfortable life in Hollywood to join the Army Air Corps.
3. Richard Cowan, Medal of Honor recipient, World War II
4. Audie Murphy, recipient of many medals, World War II
5. Robert Feller, “Bullet Bob”
6. Philip St. George Cooke
7. Peter Francisco, the “Virginia Giant” of the Revolution
8. Sgt William H. Carney, Civil War volunteer, first black soldier to receive the Medal of Honor
9. Max Cleland, triple amputee Vietnam veteran and Senator from GA
10. Ira Hayes (I’ll use him as shorthand for all the Marines at Iwo Jima)
11. Lewis B. “Chesty” Puller, USMC
12. Specialist Lawrence Joel
13. George H.W. Bush

Because even though I cannot stand his politics, he was every inch the war hero.

Famous female military leaders

1. Zenobia

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**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/26076 "2014-05-24T18:42:47Z")

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Famous female military leaders

1. Zenobia
2. Joan Of Arc

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/26077 "2014-05-24T18:50:35Z")

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Famous female military leaders

1. Zenobia
2. Joan Of Arc
3. Boadicea

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/26078 "2014-05-24T19:16:03Z")

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Famous female military leaders

1. Zenobia
2. Joan Of Arc
3. Boadicea
4. The Trung Sisters (1st Century Vietnam)  
In interest of speed, feel free to include fictional as well.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/26079 "2014-05-24T20:07:52Z")

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Famous female military leaders

1. Zenobia
2. Joan Of Arc
3. Boadicea
4. The Trung Sisters (1st Century Vietnam)
5. Fu Hao

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/26080 "2014-05-24T21:44:50Z")

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Famous female military leaders

1. Zenobia
2. Joan Of Arc
3. Boadicea
4. The Trung Sisters (1st Century Vietnam)
5. Fu Hao
6. Harriet Tubman

Led troops on a recon mission that experienced some combat in South Carolina during the Civil War.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/26081 "2014-05-24T21:59:49Z")

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Famous female military leaders

1. Zenobia
2. Joan Of Arc
3. Boadicea
4. The Trung Sisters (1st Century Vietnam)
5. Fu Hao
6. Harriet Tubman
7. Artemisia of Caria

While _300: Rise of an Empire_ isn’t what you would call a historically accurate movie, there really was such a person.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2014, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/26082 "2014-05-24T23:31:32Z")

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Famous female military leaders

1. Zenobia
2. Joan Of Arc
3. Boadicea
4. The Trung Sisters (1st Century Vietnam)
5. Fu Hao
6. Harriet Tubman
7. Artemisia of Caria
8. Mary Musgrove

A powerful trader and chief of the Muscogee Creeks near modern day Macon, GA who led a war party on Savannah to force them to honor a treaty. It worked; the colonists honored the treaty without a battle having to be fought.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2014, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/26083 "2014-05-25T00:14:35Z")

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Famous female military leaders

1. Zenobia
2. Joan Of Arc
3. Boadicea
4. The Trung Sisters (1st Century Vietnam)
5. Fu Hao
6. Harriet Tubman
7. Artemisia of Caria
8. Mary Musgrove
9. Lakshmibai

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