# Bakers Dozen

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 1474

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**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2014, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/29464 "2014-09-22T13:00:03Z")

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Casting Against Type (“Good Guys” Playing Bad Guys, Comedians doing Heavy Roles, etc.)

1. Henry Fonda, as cold-blooded killer Frank in Once Upon a Time in the West
2. Robin Williams - One Hour Photo
3. Robert de Niro, in Star Dust, Mad Dog & Glory, or Rocky & Bullwinkle, trying to be funny (and failing)
4. James Cagney as song and dance man George M. Cohan in Yankee Doodle Dandy
5. Ernest Borgnine - Marty

De Niro was hilarious in _Midnight Run_, though.

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**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2014, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/29465 "2014-09-22T13:18:20Z")

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Casting Against Type (“Good Guys” Playing Bad Guys, Comedians doing Heavy Roles, etc.)

1. Henry Fonda, as cold-blooded killer Frank in Once Upon a Time in the West
2. Robin Williams - One Hour Photo
3. Robert de Niro, in Star Dust, Mad Dog & Glory, or Rocky & Bullwinkle, trying to be funny (and failing)
4. James Cagney as song and dance man George M. Cohan in Yankee Doodle Dandy
5. Ernest Borgnine - Marty
6. Jerry Lewis in the TV series Wiseguy.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2014, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/29466 "2014-09-22T14:38:39Z")

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Casting Against Type (“Good Guys” Playing Bad Guys, Comedians doing Heavy Roles, etc.)

1. Henry Fonda, as cold-blooded killer Frank in Once Upon a Time in the West
2. Robin Williams - One Hour Photo
3. Robert de Niro, in Star Dust, Mad Dog & Glory, or Rocky & Bullwinkle, trying to be funny (and failing)
4. James Cagney as song and dance man George M. Cohan in Yankee Doodle Dandy
5. Ernest Borgnine - Marty
6. Jerry Lewis in the TV series Wiseguy.
7. Albert Brooks, surprisingly excellent as a cold-blooded killer in _ **Drive** _

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2014, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/29467 "2014-09-22T14:45:53Z")

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Casting Against Type (“Good Guys” Playing Bad Guys, Comedians doing Heavy Roles, etc.)

1. Henry Fonda, as cold-blooded killer Frank in Once Upon a Time in the West
2. Robin Williams - One Hour Photo
3. Robert de Niro, in Star Dust, Mad Dog & Glory, or Rocky & Bullwinkle, trying to be funny (and failing)
4. James Cagney as song and dance man George M. Cohan in Yankee Doodle Dandy
5. Ernest Borgnine - Marty
6. Jerry Lewis in the TV series Wiseguy.
7. Albert Brooks, surprisingly excellent as a cold-blooded killer in Drive
8. James Stewart is the heavy in _After The Thin Man_

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**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2014, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/29468 "2014-09-22T14:49:01Z")

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Casting Against Type (“Good Guys” Playing Bad Guys, Comedians doing Heavy Roles, etc.)

1. Henry Fonda, as cold-blooded killer Frank in Once Upon a Time in the West
2. Robin Williams - One Hour Photo
3. Robert de Niro, in Star Dust, Mad Dog & Glory, or Rocky & Bullwinkle, trying to be funny (and failing)
4. James Cagney as song and dance man George M. Cohan in Yankee Doodle Dandy
5. Ernest Borgnine - Marty
6. Jerry Lewis in the TV series Wiseguy.
7. Albert Brooks, surprisingly excellent as a cold-blooded killer in Drive
8. James Stewart is the heavy in After The Thin Man
9. David Tennant in “Secret Smile” (he played a reprehensible sociopath)

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2014, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/29469 "2014-09-22T15:02:54Z")

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Casting Against Type (“Good Guys” Playing Bad Guys, Comedians doing Heavy Roles, etc.)

1. Henry Fonda, as cold-blooded killer Frank in Once Upon a Time in the West
2. Robin Williams - One Hour Photo
3. Robert de Niro, in Star Dust, Mad Dog & Glory, or Rocky & Bullwinkle, trying to be funny (and failing)
4. James Cagney as song and dance man George M. Cohan in Yankee Doodle Dandy
5. Ernest Borgnine - Marty
6. Jerry Lewis in the TV series Wiseguy.
7. Albert Brooks, surprisingly excellent as a cold-blooded killer in Drive
8. James Stewart is the heavy in After The Thin Man
9. David Tennant in “Secret Smile” (he played a reprehensible sociopath)
10. Leslie Nielsen in _ **Airplane!** _ (AFTER \*\*\*Airplane!, \*\*\*he did mostly goofy comedy roles; prior to that, he was almost always a serious, humorless, staid B-movie actor who specialized playing authority figures)

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2014, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/29470 "2014-09-22T15:41:52Z")

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Casting Against Type (“Good Guys” Playing Bad Guys, Comedians doing Heavy Roles, etc.)

1. Henry Fonda, as cold-blooded killer Frank in Once Upon a Time in the West
2. Robin Williams - One Hour Photo
3. Robert de Niro, in Star Dust, Mad Dog & Glory, or Rocky & Bullwinkle, trying to be funny (and failing)
4. James Cagney as song and dance man George M. Cohan in Yankee Doodle Dandy
5. Ernest Borgnine - Marty
6. Jerry Lewis in the TV series Wiseguy.
7. Albert Brooks, surprisingly excellent as a cold-blooded killer in Drive
8. James Stewart is the heavy in After The Thin Man
9. David Tennant in “Secret Smile” (he played a reprehensible sociopath)
10. Leslie Nielsen in Airplane! (AFTER Airplane!, he did mostly goofy comedy roles; prior to that, he was almost always a serious, humorless, staid B-movie actor who specialized playing authority figures)
11. Carol Burnett on Law and Order SVU. She played an aging Ballerina who killed her four husbands

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2014, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/29471 "2014-09-22T15:42:47Z")

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Casting Against Type (“Good Guys” Playing Bad Guys, Comedians doing Heavy Roles, etc.)

1. Henry Fonda, as cold-blooded killer Frank in Once Upon a Time in the West
2. Robin Williams - One Hour Photo
3. Robert de Niro, in Star Dust, Mad Dog & Glory, or Rocky & Bullwinkle, trying to be funny (and failing)
4. James Cagney as song and dance man George M. Cohan in Yankee Doodle Dandy
5. Ernest Borgnine - Marty
6. Jerry Lewis in the TV series Wiseguy.
7. Albert Brooks, surprisingly excellent as a cold-blooded killer in Drive
8. James Stewart is the heavy in After The Thin Man
9. David Tennant in “Secret Smile” (he played a reprehensible sociopath)
10. Leslie Nielsen in _ **Airplane!** _ (AFTER \*\*\*Airplane!, \*\*\*he did mostly goofy comedy roles; prior to that, he was almost always a serious, humorless, staid B-movie actor who specialized playing authority figures)
11. Carol Burnett on Law and Order SVU. She played an aging Ballerina who killed her four husbands
12. Patrick Stewart as the flamboyant and bitchy gay comedic choreographer character in _Jeffrey_

He was fabulous!

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2014, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/29472 "2014-09-22T16:20:38Z")

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Casting Against Type (“Good Guys” Playing Bad Guys, Comedians doing Heavy Roles, etc.)

1. Henry Fonda, as cold-blooded killer Frank in Once Upon a Time in the West
2. Robin Williams - One Hour Photo
3. Robert de Niro, in Star Dust, Mad Dog & Glory, or Rocky & Bullwinkle, trying to be funny (and failing)
4. James Cagney as song and dance man George M. Cohan in Yankee Doodle Dandy
5. Ernest Borgnine - Marty
6. Jerry Lewis in the TV series Wiseguy.
7. Albert Brooks, surprisingly excellent as a cold-blooded killer in Drive
8. James Stewart is the heavy in After The Thin Man
9. David Tennant in “Secret Smile” (he played a reprehensible sociopath)
10. Leslie Nielsen in Airplane! (AFTER Airplane!, he did mostly goofy comedy roles; prior to that, he was almost always a serious, humorless, staid B-movie actor who specialized playing authority figures)
11. Carol Burnett on Law and Order SVU. She played an aging Ballerina who killed her four husbands
12. Patrick Stewart as the flamboyant and bitchy gay comedic choreographer character in Jeffrey
13. ‎Elijah Wood as Kevin the serial killer in Sin City.

The most hate filled songs you can think of:

1. God Save the Queen, The Sex Pistols

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**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2014, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/29473 "2014-09-22T16:22:56Z")

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The most hate filled songs you can think of:

1. God Save the Queen, The Sex Pistols
2. Fuck Tha Police, N.W.A.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2014, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/29474 "2014-09-22T16:35:50Z")

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The most hate filled songs you can think of:

1. God Save the Queen, The Sex Pistols
2. Fuck Tha Police, N.W.A.
3. “How Do You Sleep?” by John Lennon (a merciless slam of Paul McCartney)

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**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2014, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/29475 "2014-09-22T16:40:54Z")

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The most hate filled songs you can think of:

1. God Save the Queen, The Sex Pistols
2. Fuck Tha Police, N.W.A.
3. “How Do You Sleep?”
4. “Halls of Montezuma” (“We have fought in every clime and place  
Where we could take a gun”);

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**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2014, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/29476 "2014-09-22T16:52:45Z")

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The most hate filled songs you can think of:

1. God Save the Queen, The Sex Pistols
2. Fuck Tha Police, N.W.A.
3. “How Do You Sleep?”
4. “Halls of Montezuma” (“We have fought in every clime and place; Where we could take a gun”)
5. “Don’t You Want Me Baby?” (or as I call it, ‘The Threat of Blackmail Song’)

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2014, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/29477 "2014-09-22T17:02:44Z")

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The most hate filled songs you can think of:

1. God Save the Queen, The Sex Pistols
2. Fuck Tha Police, N.W.A.
3. “How Do You Sleep?”
4. “Halls of Montezuma” (“We have fought in every clime and place; Where we could take a gun”)
5. “Don’t You Want Me Baby?” (or as I call it, ‘The Threat of Blackmail Song’)
6. “Santa Claus Is A Fat Bitch”, Insane Clown Posse

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**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2014, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/29478 "2014-09-22T17:49:21Z")

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The most hate filled songs you can think of:

1. God Save the Queen, The Sex Pistols
2. Fuck Tha Police, N.W.A.
3. “How Do You Sleep?”
4. “Halls of Montezuma” (“We have fought in every clime and place; Where we could take a gun”)
5. “Don’t You Want Me Baby?” (or as I call it, ‘The Threat of Blackmail Song’)
6. “Santa Claus Is A Fat Bitch”, Insane Clown Posse
7. “Bomb Iran” by Vince Vance, covered 25 years later by John McCain.

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**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2014, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/29479 "2014-09-22T17:59:58Z")

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The most hate filled songs you can think of:

1. God Save the Queen, The Sex Pistols
2. Fuck Tha Police, N.W.A.
3. “How Do You Sleep?”
4. “Halls of Montezuma” (“We have fought in every clime and place; Where we could take a gun”)
5. “Don’t You Want Me Baby?” (or as I call it, ‘The Threat of Blackmail Song’)
6. “Santa Claus Is A Fat Bitch”, Insane Clown Posse
7. “Bomb Iran” by Vince Vance, covered 25 years later by John McCain.
8. “[The Last Mistake](http://lyrics.wikia.com/Assemblage_23:The_Last_Mistake)” by Assemblage 23

(stalker “If I can’t have you I’ll kill you” song–probably mild by the standards here, but I don’t know that many hate-filled songs)

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2014, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/29480 "2014-09-22T18:32:40Z")

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The most hate filled songs you can think of:

1. God Save the Queen, The Sex Pistols
2. Fuck Tha Police, N.W.A.
3. “How Do You Sleep?”
4. “Halls of Montezuma” (“We have fought in every clime and place; Where we could take a gun”)
5. “Don’t You Want Me Baby?” (or as I call it, ‘The Threat of Blackmail Song’)
6. “Santa Claus Is A Fat Bitch”, Insane Clown Posse
7. “Bomb Iran” by Vince Vance, covered 25 years later by John McCain.
8. “[The Last Mistake](http://lyrics.wikia.com/Assemblage_23:The_Last_Mistake)” by Assemblage 23
9. [“Tramp the Dirt Down”](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-BZIWSI5UQ) by Elvis Costello

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2014, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/29481 "2014-09-22T19:08:44Z")

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The most hate filled songs you can think of:

1. God Save the Queen, The Sex Pistols
2. Fuck Tha Police, N.W.A.
3. “How Do You Sleep?”
4. “Halls of Montezuma” (“We have fought in every clime and place; Where we could take a gun”)
5. “Don’t You Want Me Baby?” (or as I call it, ‘The Threat of Blackmail Song’)
6. “Santa Claus Is A Fat Bitch”, Insane Clown Posse
7. “Bomb Iran” by Vince Vance, covered 25 years later by John McCain.
8. “The Last Mistake” by Assemblage 23
9. “Tramp the Dirt Down” by Elvis Costello
10. Shaquille O’Neals’s rap number: “Kobe, Tell Me How My Ass Tastes.” [Shaq Rap to Kobe Bryant - YouTube](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z49whgBNCyE)

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2014, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/29482 "2014-09-22T20:39:31Z")

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The most hate filled songs you can think of:

1. God Save the Queen, The Sex Pistols
2. Fuck Tha Police, N.W.A.
3. “How Do You Sleep?”
4. “Halls of Montezuma” (“We have fought in every clime and place; Where we could take a gun”)
5. “Don’t You Want Me Baby?” (or as I call it, ‘The Threat of Blackmail Song’)
6. “Santa Claus Is A Fat Bitch”, Insane Clown Posse
7. “Bomb Iran” by Vince Vance, covered 25 years later by John McCain.
8. “The Last Mistake” by Assemblage 23
9. “Tramp the Dirt Down” by Elvis Costello
10. Shaquille O’Neals’s rap number: “Kobe, Tell Me How My Ass Tastes.” [Shaq Rap to Kobe Bryant - YouTube](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z49whgBNCyE)
11. “Smack My Bitch Up” by the Prodigy

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2014, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/29483 "2014-09-22T20:50:30Z")

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The most hate filled songs you can think of:

1. God Save the Queen, The Sex Pistols
2. Fuck Tha Police, N.W.A.
3. “How Do You Sleep?”
4. “Halls of Montezuma” (“We have fought in every clime and place; Where we could take a gun”)
5. “Don’t You Want Me Baby?” (or as I call it, ‘The Threat of Blackmail Song’)
6. “Santa Claus Is A Fat Bitch”, Insane Clown Posse
7. “Bomb Iran” by Vince Vance, covered 25 years later by John McCain.
8. “The Last Mistake” by Assemblage 23
9. “Tramp the Dirt Down” by Elvis Costello
10. Shaquille O’Neals’s rap number: “Kobe, Tell Me How My Ass Tastes.” [Shaq Rap to Kobe Bryant - YouTube](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z49whgBNCyE)
11. “Smack My Bitch Up” by the Prodigy
12. “They’re Coming to Take Me Away Ha Ha” by Napoleon XIV

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