# Bakers Dozen

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2011, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/3001 "2011-01-03T14:54:29Z")

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Hugo-winning novels

1. _The Demolished Man_ by Alfred Bester
2. _Animal Farm_ by George Orwell
3. _Double Star_ by Robert A. Heinlein

I don’t see that _Animal Farm_ got a Hugo, did it? What year, if so?: [Hugo Award for Best Novel - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Award_for_Best_Novel)

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2011, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/3002 "2011-01-03T15:05:19Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Hugo-winning novels
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> 1. _The Demolished Man_ by Alfred Bester
> 2. _Animal Farm_ by George Orwell
> 3. _Double Star_ by Robert A. Heinlein
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> I don’t see that _Animal Farm_ got a Hugo, did it? What year, if so?: [Hugo Award for Best Novel - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Award_for_Best_Novel)

[1946, awarded 1996](http://www.worldcon.org/hy.html#46)

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2011, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/3003 "2011-01-03T15:13:16Z")

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Hugo-winning novels

1. _The Demolished Man_ by Alfred Bester
2. _Animal Farm_ by George Orwell
3. _Double Star_ by Robert A. Heinlein
4. _They’d Rather Be Right_ by Mark Clifton and Frank Riley

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2011, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/3004 "2011-01-03T15:27:07Z")

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Thanks, **Annie**. Dunno why Wiki omits it.

Hugo-winning novels

1. _The Demolished Man_ by Alfred Bester
2. _Animal Farm_ by George Orwell
3. _Double Star_ by Robert A. Heinlein
4. _They’d Rather Be Right_ by Mark Clifton and Frank Riley
5. _The Lost Colony_ by John Scalzi

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2011, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/3005 "2011-01-03T15:33:41Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Thanks, **Annie**. Dunno why Wiki omits it.

From Annie’s reference page, it won as a “novella” instead of as a “novel”; there’s a pretty strict word-count limit for the Hugo categories.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/3006 "2011-01-04T03:13:34Z")

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Hugo-winning novels

1. _The Demolished Man_ by Alfred Bester
2. _Animal Farm_ by George Orwell
3. _Double Star_ by Robert A. Heinlein
4. _They’d Rather Be Right_ by Mark Clifton and Frank Riley
5. _The Lost Colony_ by John Scalzi
6. _Dune_ by Frank Herbert

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**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/3007 "2011-01-04T03:45:23Z")

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Hugo-winning novels

1. _The Demolished Man_ by Alfred Bester
2. _Animal Farm_ by George Orwell
3. _Double Star_ by Robert A. Heinlein
4. _They’d Rather Be Right_ by Mark Clifton and Frank Riley
5. _The Lost Colony_ by John Scalzi
6. _Dune_ by Frank Herbert
7. _Stranger in a Strange Land_ by Robert A. Heinlein

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/3008 "2011-01-04T04:12:08Z")

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Hugo-winning novels

1. _The Demolished Man_ by Alfred Bester
2. _Animal Farm_ by George Orwell
3. _Double Star_ by Robert A. Heinlein
4. _They’d Rather Be Right_ by Mark Clifton and Frank Riley
5. _The Lost Colony_ by John Scalzi
6. _Dune_ by Frank Herbert
7. _Stranger in a Strange Land_ by Robert A. Heinlein
8. _Startide Rising_ by David Brin

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/3009 "2011-01-04T04:16:04Z")

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Wait a second. John Scalzi’s book was called _The Last Colony_. And it didn’t win a Hugo. _The Yiddish Policemen’s Union_ by Michael Chabon won that year’s Hugo.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/3010 "2011-01-04T04:55:59Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Wait a second. John Scalzi’s book was called _The Last Colony_. And it didn’t win a Hugo. _The Yiddish Policemen’s Union_ by Michael Chabon won that year’s Hugo.

My mistake; nominated but didn’t win in 2008: [Hugo Award for Best Novel - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Award_for_Best_Novel)

Hugo-winning novels

1. _The Demolished Man_ by Alfred Bester
2. _Animal Farm_ by George Orwell
3. _Double Star_ by Robert A. Heinlein
4. _They’d Rather Be Right_ by Mark Clifton and Frank Riley
5. _The Lost Colony_ by John Scalzi
6. _Dune_ by Frank Herbert
7. _Stranger in a Strange Land_ by Robert A. Heinlein
8. _Startide Rising_ by David Brin
9. _Starship Troopers_ by Robert A. Heinlein

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/3011 "2011-01-04T21:50:34Z")

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Hugo-winning novels

1. The Demolished Man by Alfred Bester
2. Animal Farm by George Orwell
3. Double Star by Robert A. Heinlein
4. They’d Rather Be Right by Mark Clifton and Frank Riley
5. The Lost Colony by John Scalzi
6. Dune by Frank Herbert
7. Stranger in a Strange Land by Robert A. Heinlein
8. Startide Rising by David Brin
9. Starship Troopers by Robert A. Heinlein
10. Ender’s Game by Orson Scott Card

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/3012 "2011-01-04T22:12:55Z")

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Hugo-winning works

1. The Demolished Man by Alfred Bester
2. Animal Farm by George Orwell
3. Double Star by Robert A. Heinlein
4. They’d Rather Be Right by Mark Clifton and Frank Riley
5. The Yiddish Policemen’s Union by Michael Chabon
6. Dune by Frank Herbert
7. Stranger in a Strange Land by Robert A. Heinlein
8. Startide Rising by David Brin
9. Starship Troopers by Robert A. Heinlein
10. Ender’s Game by Orson Scott Card
11. The Left Hand of Darkness by Ursula K. Le Guin

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/3013 "2011-01-05T01:48:00Z")

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“Works,” **Sternvogel**? That wasn’t the category.

Hugo-winning novels

1. The Demolished Man by Alfred Bester
2. Animal Farm by George Orwell
3. Double Star by Robert A. Heinlein
4. They’d Rather Be Right by Mark Clifton and Frank Riley
5. The Yiddish Policemen’s Union by Michael Chabon
6. Dune by Frank Herbert
7. Stranger in a Strange Land by Robert A. Heinlein
8. Startide Rising by David Brin
9. Starship Troopers by Robert A. Heinlein
10. Ender’s Game by Orson Scott Card
11. The Left Hand of Darkness by Ursula K. Le Guin
12. Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire by J.K. Rowling

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/3014 "2011-01-05T02:10:06Z")

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Hugo-winning novels

1. The Demolished Man by Alfred Bester
2. Animal Farm by George Orwell
3. Double Star by Robert A. Heinlein
4. They’d Rather Be Right by Mark Clifton and Frank Riley
5. The Yiddish Policemen’s Union by Michael Chabon
6. Dune by Frank Herbert
7. Stranger in a Strange Land by Robert A. Heinlein
8. Startide Rising by David Brin
9. Starship Troopers by Robert A. Heinlein
10. Ender’s Game by Orson Scott Card
11. The Left Hand of Darkness by Ursula K. Le Guin
12. Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire by J.K. Rowling
13. Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell by Susanna Clarke

Being as this was my category, I’ll pass on suggesting a new one.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_jeffrey_lebowski/32/215_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Jeffrey_Lebowski)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/3015 "2011-01-05T05:57:56Z")

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Thank you for the honor, **Little Nemo**.  
Famous people with your birthday (list the day first, please)

1. 27 May Dashiell Hammett

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/3016 "2011-01-05T06:59:20Z")

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Famous people with your birthday (list the day first, please)

1. 27 May - Dashiell Hammett
2. 29 October - Joseph Goebbels

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**Author:** ![JessMagic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c0e974/32.png) [@JessMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JessMagic)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/3017 "2011-01-05T12:37:24Z")

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Famous people with your birthday (list the day first, please)

1. 27 May - Dashiell Hammett
2. 29 October - Joseph Goebbels
3. 28 April - Saddam Hussein

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**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/3018 "2011-01-05T13:16:02Z")

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Famous people with your birthday (list the day first, please)

1. 27 May - Dashiell Hammett
2. 29 October - Joseph Goebbels
3. 28 April - Saddam Hussein
4. 26 October - Hillary Rodham Clinton

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/3019 "2011-01-05T14:23:38Z")

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Famous people with your birthday (list the day first, please)

1. 27 May - Dashiell Hammett
2. 29 October - Joseph Goebbels
3. 28 April - Saddam Hussein
4. 26 October - Hillary Rodham Clinton
5. 25 December - Annie Lennox (1954–same year, too)

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**Author:** ![willthekittensurvive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/91b2a8/32.png) [@willthekittensurvive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/willthekittensurvive)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/3020 "2011-01-05T14:30:48Z")

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Famous people with your birthday (list the day first, please)

1. 27 May - Dashiell Hammett
2. 29 October - Joseph Goebbels
3. 28 April - Saddam Hussein
4. 26 October - Hillary Rodham Clinton
5. 25 December - Annie Lennox (1954–same year, too)
6. 14 September - Amy Winehouse

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