# Bakers Dozen **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1540
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/30784 "2014-11-04T21:12:17Z")
A pair of unrelated famous people in the same field with the same last name. 1. Presidents Andrew and Lyndon Johnson 2. Paul and Carly Simon 3. News show commentators David and Donald Brinkley 4. Actors Griffin and Irene Dunne 5. Actors Ryan and Patrick O’Neal 6. Rock drummers Roger (Queen) Taylor and Roger (Duran Duran) Taylor and Philthy Animal (Motorhead) Taylor 7. Authors C.S. and Sinclair Lewis 8. Golfers Tom and Bubba Watson 9. Authors Thomas and Tom Wolfe 10. Actresses Maureen and Jean Stapleton 11. Actors Alec and Adam Baldwin 12. Stellar MLB pitchers Walter and Randy Johnson ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/30785 "2014-11-04T21:23:28Z")
A pair of unrelated famous people in the same field with the same last name. 1. Presidents Andrew and Lyndon Johnson 2. Paul and Carly Simon 3. News show commentators David and Donald Brinkley 4. Actors Griffin and Irene Dunne 5. Actors Ryan and Patrick O’Neal 6. Rock drummers Roger (Queen) Taylor and Roger (Duran Duran) Taylor and Philthy Animal (Motorhead) Taylor 7. Authors C.S. and Sinclair Lewis 8. Golfers Tom and Bubba Watson 9. Authors Thomas and Tom Wolfe 10. Actresses Maureen and Jean Stapleton 11. Actors Alec and Adam Baldwin 12. Stellar MLB pitchers Walter and Randy Johnson 13. Bestselling novelists Luanne and Anne Rice Autobiographical elements novelists have included in their fiction: 1. Kurt Vonnegut: the firebombing of Dresden, being a Hoosier ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/30786 "2014-11-04T21:23:59Z")
A pair of unrelated famous people in the same field with the same last name. 1. Presidents Andrew and Lyndon Johnson 2. Paul and Carly Simon 3. News show commentators David and Donald Brinkley 4. Actors Griffin and Irene Dunne 5. Actors Ryan and Patrick O’Neal 6. Rock drummers Roger (Queen) Taylor and Roger (Duran Duran) Taylor and Philthy Animal (Motorhead) Taylor 7. Authors C.S. and Sinclair Lewis 8. Golfers Tom and Bubba Watson 9. Authors Thomas and Tom Wolfe 10. Actresses Maureen and Jean Stapleton 11. Actors Alec and Adam Baldwin 12. Stellar MLB pitchers Walter and Randy Johnson 13a. Bestselling novelists Luanne and Anne Rice 13b. Science fiction authors Alastair and Mack Reynolds I’ll pass ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/30787 "2014-11-04T21:41:07Z")
13 Shades of Grey 1.Silver Gray ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/30788 "2014-11-04T22:22:14Z")
Autobiographical elements novelists have included in their fiction: 1. Kurt Vonnegut: the firebombing of Dresden, being a Hoosier 2. Mark Twain - childhood in Missouri appears in _ **Tom Sawyer** _ ---
**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/30789 "2014-11-04T22:45:59Z")
Autobiographical elements novelists have included in their fiction: 1. Kurt Vonnegut: the firebombing of Dresden, being a Hoosier 2. Mark Twain - childhood in Missouri appears in _ **Tom Sawyer** _ 3. F. Scott Fitzgerald: elements of his marriage to Zelda Sayre in **Tender Is the Night** (and others, of course) ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/30790 "2014-11-04T22:46:12Z")
Autobiographical elements novelists have included in their fiction: 1. Kurt Vonnegut: the firebombing of Dresden, being a Hoosier 2. Mark Twain - childhood in Missouri appears in _ **Tom Sawyer** _ 3. F. Scott Fitzgerald: elements of his marriage to Zelda Sayre in Tender Is the Night (and others, of course) 4. Anne Rice- her First Street mansion in New Orleans, doll collections, the San Francisco artist community ---
**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/30791 "2014-11-04T23:30:02Z")
Autobiographical elements novelists have included in their fiction: 1. Kurt Vonnegut: the firebombing of Dresden, being a Hoosier 2. Mark Twain - childhood in Missouri appears in Tom Sawyer 3. F. Scott Fitzgerald: elements of his marriage to Zelda Sayre in Tender Is the Night (and others, of course) 4. Anne Rice- her First Street mansion in New Orleans, doll collections, the San Francisco artist community 5. Herman Melville’s Moby Dick, based on his experiences as a hand on a whaling ship. ---
**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/30792 "2014-11-04T23:42:37Z")
Autobiographical elements novelists have included in their fiction: 1. Kurt Vonnegut: the firebombing of Dresden, being a Hoosier 2. Mark Twain - childhood in Missouri appears in Tom Sawyer 3. F. Scott Fitzgerald: elements of his marriage to Zelda Sayre in Tender Is the Night (and others, of course) 4. Anne Rice- her First Street mansion in New Orleans, doll collections, the San Francisco artist community 5. Herman Melville’s Moby Dick, based on his experiences as a hand on a whaling ship. 6. Lynn Hall: having dogs, going to dog shows ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2014, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/30793 "2014-11-04T23:42:54Z")
Autobiographical elements novelists have included in their fiction: 1. Kurt Vonnegut: the firebombing of Dresden, being a Hoosier 2. Mark Twain - childhood in Missouri appears in Tom Sawyer 3. F. Scott Fitzgerald: elements of his marriage to Zelda Sayre in Tender Is the Night (and others, of course) 4. Anne Rice- her First Street mansion in New Orleans, doll collections, the San Francisco artist community 5. Herman Melville’s Moby Dick, based on his experiences as a hand on a whaling ship. 6. Lynn Hall: having dogs, going to dog shows 7. Charles Dickens - after his father died and his mother remarried, he was sent off to school (A Christmas Carol), and spent time on the streets (Oliver Twist) ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/30794 "2014-11-05T01:43:43Z")
Autobiographical elements novelists have included in their fiction: 1. Kurt Vonnegut: the firebombing of Dresden, being a Hoosier 2. Mark Twain - childhood in Missouri appears in Tom Sawyer 3. F. Scott Fitzgerald: elements of his marriage to Zelda Sayre in Tender Is the Night (and others, of course) 4. Anne Rice- her First Street mansion in New Orleans, doll collections, the San Francisco artist community 5. Herman Melville’s Moby Dick, based on his experiences as a hand on a whaling ship. 6. Lynn Hall: having dogs, going to dog shows 7. Charles Dickens - after his father died and his mother remarried, he was sent off to school (A Christmas Carol), and spent time on the streets (Oliver Twist) 8. John Steinbeck’s Of Mice and Men, During Summers he worked with Migrant Workers ---
**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/30795 "2014-11-05T01:50:03Z")
Autobiographical elements novelists have included in their fiction: 1. Kurt Vonnegut: the firebombing of Dresden, being a Hoosier 2. Mark Twain - childhood in Missouri appears in Tom Sawyer 3. F. Scott Fitzgerald: elements of his marriage to Zelda Sayre in Tender Is the Night (and others, of course) 4. Anne Rice- her First Street mansion in New Orleans, doll collections, the San Francisco artist community 5. Herman Melville’s Moby Dick, based on his experiences as a hand on a whaling ship. 6. Lynn Hall: having dogs, going to dog shows 7. Charles Dickens - after his father died and his mother remarried, he was sent off to school (A Christmas Carol), and spent time on the streets (Oliver Twist) 8. John Steinbeck’s Of Mice and Men, During Summers he worked with Migrant Workers 9. Stephen King - He used an actual nightmare he had for _'Salem’s Lot_. ---
**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/30796 "2014-11-05T01:55:56Z")
Autobiographical elements novelists have included in their fiction: 1. Kurt Vonnegut: the firebombing of Dresden, being a Hoosier 2. Mark Twain - childhood in Missouri appears in Tom Sawyer 3. F. Scott Fitzgerald: elements of his marriage to Zelda Sayre in Tender Is the Night (and others, of course) 4. Anne Rice- her First Street mansion in New Orleans, doll collections, the San Francisco artist community 5. Herman Melville’s Moby Dick, based on his experiences as a hand on a whaling ship. 6. Lynn Hall: having dogs, going to dog shows 7. Charles Dickens - after his father died and his mother remarried, he was sent off to school (A Christmas Carol), and spent time on the streets (Oliver Twist) 8. John Steinbeck’s Of Mice and Men, During Summers he worked with Migrant Workers 9. Stephen King - He used an actual nightmare he had for 'Salem’s Lot. 10. Stephen King - Jack Torrance in The Shining was an alcoholic ex-schoolteacher turned writer, and reflected a lot of his own admitted fears about failing as a family man. ---
**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/30797 "2014-11-05T01:58:49Z")
Autobiographical elements novelists have included in their fiction: 1. Kurt Vonnegut: the firebombing of Dresden, being a Hoosier 2. Mark Twain - childhood in Missouri appears in Tom Sawyer 3. F. Scott Fitzgerald: elements of his marriage to Zelda Sayre in Tender Is the Night (and others, of course) 4. Anne Rice- her First Street mansion in New Orleans, doll collections, the San Francisco artist community 5. Herman Melville’s Moby Dick, based on his experiences as a hand on a whaling ship. 6. Lynn Hall: having dogs, going to dog shows 7. Charles Dickens - after his father died and his mother remarried, he was sent off to school (A Christmas Carol), and spent time on the streets (Oliver Twist) 8. John Steinbeck’s Of Mice and Men, During Summers he worked with Migrant Workers 9. Stephen King - He used an actual nightmare he had for 'Salem’s Lot. 10. Stephen King - Jack Torrance in The Shining was an alcoholic ex-schoolteacher turned writer, and reflected a lot of his own admitted fears about failing as a family man. 11. Orson Scott Card - The Lost Boys, which he called “the most autobiographical novel I have ever written.” ---
**Author:** ![MrKnowItAll](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrknowitall/32/87_2.png) [@MrKnowItAll](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrKnowItAll)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/30798 "2014-11-05T02:26:16Z")
Autobiographical elements novelists have included in their fiction: 1. Kurt Vonnegut: the firebombing of Dresden, being a Hoosier 2. Mark Twain - childhood in Missouri appears in Tom Sawyer 3. F. Scott Fitzgerald: elements of his marriage to Zelda Sayre in Tender Is the Night (and others, of course) 4. Anne Rice- her First Street mansion in New Orleans, doll collections, the San Francisco artist community 5. Herman Melville’s Moby Dick, based on his experiences as a hand on a whaling ship. 6. Lynn Hall: having dogs, going to dog shows 7. Charles Dickens - after his father died and his mother remarried, he was sent off to school (A Christmas Carol), and spent time on the streets (Oliver Twist) 8. John Steinbeck’s Of Mice and Men, During Summers he worked with Migrant Workers 9. Stephen King - He used an actual nightmare he had for 'Salem’s Lot. 10. Stephen King - Jack Torrance in The Shining was an alcoholic ex-schoolteacher turned writer, and reflected a lot of his own admitted fears about failing as a family man. 11. Orson Scott Card - The Lost Boys, which he called “the most autobiographical novel I have ever written.” 12. Barbara Kingsolver, who like her heroine in _The Bean Trees_ moved from her rural Kentucky home to Arizona. ---
**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/30799 "2014-11-05T02:41:07Z")
Autobiographical elements novelists have included in their fiction: 1. Kurt Vonnegut: the firebombing of Dresden, being a Hoosier 2. Mark Twain - childhood in Missouri appears in Tom Sawyer 3. F. Scott Fitzgerald: elements of his marriage to Zelda Sayre in Tender Is the Night (and others, of course) 4. Anne Rice- her First Street mansion in New Orleans, doll collections, the San Francisco artist community 5. Herman Melville’s Moby Dick, based on his experiences as a hand on a whaling ship. 6. Lynn Hall: having dogs, going to dog shows 7. Charles Dickens - after his father died and his mother remarried, he was sent off to school (A Christmas Carol), and spent time on the streets (Oliver Twist) 8. John Steinbeck’s Of Mice and Men, During Summers he worked with Migrant Workers 9. Stephen King - He used an actual nightmare he had for 'Salem’s Lot. 10. Stephen King - Jack Torrance in The Shining was an alcoholic ex-schoolteacher turned writer, and reflected a lot of his own admitted fears about failing as a family man. 11. Orson Scott Card - The Lost Boys, which he called “the most autobiographical novel I have ever written.” 12. Barbara Kingsolver, who like her heroine in The Bean Trees moved from her rural Kentucky home to Arizona. 13. W. Somerset Maugham, who like his hero in Of Human Bondage overcame a handicap (clubfoot/stutter) and failed as an artist before training as a doctor Next: Celebrities who had serious brushes with the law BEFORE becoming famous 1. Bernard Hopkins, arguably the greatest boxer of all time, learned his trade while doing 5 years for armed robbery ---
**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/30800 "2014-11-05T03:16:51Z")
Next: Celebrities who had serious brushes with the law BEFORE becoming famous 1. Bernard Hopkins, arguably the greatest boxer of all time, learned his trade while doing 5 years for armed robbery 2. Tim Allen, served 2 1/2 years for cocaine trafficking; avoided a life sentence by turning state’s evidence. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/30801 "2014-11-05T05:49:35Z")
Celebrities who had serious brushes with the law BEFORE becoming famous 1. Bernard Hopkins, arguably the greatest boxer of all time, learned his trade while doing 5 years for armed robbery 2. Tim Allen, served 2 1/2 years for cocaine trafficking; avoided a life sentence by turning state’s evidence. 3. Mark Wahlberg - drugs and assault Wahlberg was (is?) a racist who used to go around assaulting blacks and Asians. ---
**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/30802 "2014-11-05T06:45:28Z")
Celebrities who had serious brushes with the law BEFORE becoming famous 1. Bernard Hopkins, arguably the greatest boxer of all time, learned his trade while doing 5 years for armed robbery 2. Tim Allen, served 2 1/2 years for cocaine trafficking; avoided a life sentence by turning state’s evidence. 3. Mark Wahlberg - drugs and assault 4. Tony Sirico, aka “Paulie Walnuts” from The Sopranos - convicted of several crimes, including two trips to prison for 12+ months. It was while imprisoned when he met a troupe of ex-convicts who convinced him to give acting a try. ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/30803 "2014-11-05T12:04:08Z")
Celebrities who had serious brushes with the law BEFORE becoming famous 1. Bernard Hopkins, arguably the greatest boxer of all time, learned his trade while doing 5 years for armed robbery 2. Tim Allen, served 2 1/2 years for cocaine trafficking; avoided a life sentence by turning state’s evidence. 3. Mark Wahlberg - drugs and assault 4. Tony Sirico, aka “Paulie Walnuts” from The Sopranos - convicted of several crimes, including two trips to prison for 12+ months. It was while imprisoned when he met a troupe of ex-convicts who convinced him to give acting a try. 5. Ron Leflore - an ex-convict and baseball star. He’s the only man to lead both leagues in stolen bases, [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173.md?page=1539) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173.md?page=1541)