# Bakers Dozen

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 1640

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2015, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/32784 "2015-02-04T04:43:31Z")

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Characters from Lewis Carroll’s Alice books

1. The Cheshire Cat
2. Alice
3. The Red Queen
4. The White Knight

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2015, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/32785 "2015-02-04T05:15:10Z")

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Characters from Lewis Carroll’s Alice books

1. The Cheshire Cat
2. Alice
3. The Red Queen
4. The White Knight
5. The Walrus

Who, in turns out, was actually Paul McCartney.

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**Author:** ![tripthicket](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripthicket/32/297_2.png) [@tripthicket](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tripthicket)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2015, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/32786 "2015-02-04T06:21:58Z")

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Characters from Lewis Carroll’s Alice books

1. The Cheshire Cat
2. Alice
3. The Red Queen
4. The White Knight
5. The Walrus
6. The Mad Hatter

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2015, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/32787 "2015-02-04T06:53:38Z")

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Characters from Lewis Carroll’s Alice books

1. The Cheshire Cat
2. Alice
3. The Red Queen
4. The White Knight
5. The Walrus
6. The Mad Hatter
7. The White Rabbit

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**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2015, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/32788 "2015-02-04T12:24:52Z")

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Characters from Lewis Carroll’s Alice books

1. The Cheshire Cat
2. Alice
3. The Red Queen
4. The White Knight
5. The Walrus
6. The Mad Hatter
7. The White Rabbit
8. Humpty Dumpty

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**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2015, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/32789 "2015-02-04T13:17:22Z")

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Characters from Lewis Carroll’s Alice books

1. The Cheshire Cat
2. Alice
3. The Red Queen
4. The White Knight
5. The Walrus
6. The Mad Hatter
7. The White Rabbit
8. Humpty Dumpty
9. [The Dormouse](http://cheezburger.com/8440869120?utm_source=trans&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newcompletedimage&utm_campaign=transglobal&utm_source=trans&utm_medium=email)

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**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2015, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/32790 "2015-02-04T14:18:02Z")

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Characters from Lewis Carroll’s Alice books

1. The Cheshire Cat
2. Alice
3. The Red Queen
4. The White Knight
5. The Walrus
6. The Mad Hatter
7. The White Rabbit
8. Humpty Dumpty
9. [The Dormouse](http://cheezburger.com/8440869120?utm_source=trans&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newcompletedimage&utm_campaign=transglobal&utm_source=trans&utm_medium=email)
10. The March Hare

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2015, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/32791 "2015-02-04T14:38:12Z")

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Characters from Lewis Carroll’s Alice books

1. The Cheshire Cat
2. Alice
3. The Red Queen
4. The White Knight
5. The Walrus
6. The Mad Hatter
7. The White Rabbit
8. Humpty Dumpty
9. The Dormouse
10. The March Hare
11. The Gryphon

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2015, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/32792 "2015-02-04T14:58:01Z")

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Characters from Lewis Carroll’s Alice books

1. The Cheshire Cat
2. Alice
3. The Red Queen
4. The White Knight
5. The Walrus
6. The Mad Hatter
7. The White Rabbit
8. Humpty Dumpty
9. The Dormouse
10. The March Hare
11. The Gryphon
12. Tweedle Dee

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2015, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/32793 "2015-02-04T15:13:45Z")

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Characters from Lewis Carroll’s Alice books

1. The Cheshire Cat
2. Alice
3. The Red Queen
4. The White Knight
5. The Walrus
6. The Mad Hatter
7. The White Rabbit
8. Humpty Dumpty
9. The Dormouse
10. The March Hare
11. The Gryphon
12. Tweedle Dee
13. Bill the Lizard

One of the only characters besides Alice to have a name.

I’ll go with the obvious.

New category: Oz characters

1. Dorothy Gale

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**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2015, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/32794 "2015-02-04T15:28:20Z")

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New category: Oz characters

1. Dorothy Gale
2. …and Toto, too!

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2015, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/32795 "2015-02-04T16:24:40Z")

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Oz characters

1. Dorothy Gale
2. …and Toto, too!
3. Vern Schillinger

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2015, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/32796 "2015-02-04T17:06:54Z")

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No, we’re not going there.

Characters from the Oz series of children’s literature.

1. Dorothy Gale
2. …and Toto, too!

I will accept L. Frank Baum, Ruth Plumly Thompson, John R. Neill, Jack Snow, Sherwood Smith, Eric Shanower, and even Gregory Maguire. But no Tom Fontana.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2015, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/32797 "2015-02-04T17:20:18Z")

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Characters from the Oz series of children’s literature.

1. Dorothy Gale
2. …and Toto, too!
3. Glinda the Good Witch of the East

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2015, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/32798 "2015-02-04T17:35:19Z")

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Oh, you’re no fun any more! Wouldn’t it be awesome to have Vern in the dungeons, raping the Lion and etching swastikas onto the Tin Man?

No? Oh, be that way.  
Characters from the Oz series of children’s literature.

1. Dorothy Gale
2. …and Toto, too!
3. Glinda the Good Witch of the East
4. Jack Pumpkinhead

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2015, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/32799 "2015-02-04T18:14:13Z")

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Characters from the Oz series of children’s literature.

1. Dorothy Gale
2. …and Toto, too!
3. Glinda the Good Witch of the East
4. Jack Pumpkinhead
5. The Great and Powerful Oz

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**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2015, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/32800 "2015-02-04T18:21:55Z")

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Characters from the Oz series of children’s literature.

1. Dorothy Gale
2. …and Toto, too!
3. Glinda the Good Witch of the East
4. Jack Pumpkinhead
5. The Great and Powerful Oz
6. Tik-Tok

I thought Glinda was the Good Witch of the North? 😕

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2015, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/32801 "2015-02-04T18:23:49Z")

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Characters from the Oz series of children’s literature.

1. Dorothy Gale
2. …and Toto, too!
3. Glinda the Good Witch of the East
4. Jack Pumpkinhead
5. The Great and Powerful Oz
6. Tik-Tok
7. Ozma

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2015, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/32802 "2015-02-04T18:33:00Z")

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> [@buddha\_david](#):
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> I thought Glinda was the Good Witch of the North? 😕

In the movie, Glinda was the Good Witch of the North. In the books, she was the Good Witch of the South.

Dorothy encountered both good witches separately in the book. It was the Good Witch of the North who first appeared when Dorothy arrived in Oz and advised her to go to the Emerald City. When that plan didn’t work, Dorothy then went to see the Good Witch of the South, who tells Dorothy her shoes have the power to send her home.

This avoids the plot hole in the movie where generations of viewers have wondered why Glinda didn’t just tell Dorothy how to go back to Kansas right away.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2015, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/32803 "2015-02-04T18:52:13Z")

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Characters from the Oz series of children’s literature.

1. Dorothy Gale
2. …and Toto, too!
3. Glinda the Good Witch of the East
4. Jack Pumpkinhead
5. The Great and Powerful Oz
6. Tik-Tok
7. Ozma
8. H.M. Wogglebug, T.E.

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