# Bakers Dozen

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 1723

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/34444 "2015-04-21T19:10:44Z")

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What are you reading right now?

1:\* Liberty’s First Crisis: Adams, Jefferson, and the Misfits Who Saved Free Speech\* by Charles Slack  
2: _Rothstein: the Life, Times and Murder of the Man Who Fixed the 1919 World Series_, by David Pietrusza  
3: _The Pyrates_ by George MacDonald Fraser  
4: _Colonel Roosevelt_ by Edmund Morris

The last in his trilogy about Theodore Roosevelt, from his leaving the White House to his death. Big, detailed, but written with a light touch and very engrossing.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/34445 "2015-04-21T20:16:39Z")

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What are you reading right now?

1: Liberty’s First Crisis: Adams, Jefferson, and the Misfits Who Saved Free Speech by Charles Slack  
2: Rothstein: the Life, Times and Murder of the Man Who Fixed the 1919 World Series, by David Pietrusza  
3: The Pyrates by George MacDonald Fraser  
4: Colonel Roosevelt by Edmund Morris  
5.\*\*\* Tender Is the Night \*\*\*by F. Scott Fitzgerald

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/34446 "2015-04-21T22:16:52Z")

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What are you reading right now?

1: Liberty’s First Crisis: Adams, Jefferson, and the Misfits Who Saved Free Speech by Charles Slack  
2: Rothstein: the Life, Times and Murder of the Man Who Fixed the 1919 World Series, by David Pietrusza  
3: The Pyrates by George MacDonald Fraser  
4: Colonel Roosevelt by Edmund Morris  
5. Tender Is the Night by F. Scott Fitzgerald  
6. Forward From Here by Reeve Lindberg

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/34447 "2015-04-22T03:25:29Z")

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What are you reading right now?

1: Liberty’s First Crisis: Adams, Jefferson, and the Misfits Who Saved Free Speech by Charles Slack  
2: Rothstein: the Life, Times and Murder of the Man Who Fixed the 1919 World Series, by David Pietrusza  
3: The Pyrates by George MacDonald Fraser  
4: Colonel Roosevelt by Edmund Morris  
5. Tender Is the Night by F. Scott Fitzgerald  
6. Forward From Here by Reeve Lindberg  
7. The Goldfinch by Donna Tartt

Just gave it up - despite its Pulitzer Prize, it didn’t hook me after 3 out of 26 audiobook CDs.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/34448 "2015-04-22T03:40:28Z")

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What are you reading right now?

1: Liberty’s First Crisis: Adams, Jefferson, and the Misfits Who Saved Free Speech by Charles Slack  
2: Rothstein: the Life, Times and Murder of the Man Who Fixed the 1919 World Series, by David Pietrusza  
3: The Pyrates by George MacDonald Fraser  
4: Colonel Roosevelt by Edmund Morris  
5. Tender Is the Night by F. Scott Fitzgerald  
6. Forward From Here by Reeve Lindberg  
7. The Goldfinch by Donna Tartt  
8. Mark: A New Translation with Introduction and Commentary, 2 volumes, by Joel Marcus

More academic than evangelical, which makes a nice contrast from the others I’ve been reading.

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/34449 "2015-04-22T13:47:15Z")

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What are you reading right now?

1: Liberty’s First Crisis: Adams, Jefferson, and the Misfits Who Saved Free Speech by Charles Slack  
2: Rothstein: the Life, Times and Murder of the Man Who Fixed the 1919 World Series, by David Pietrusza  
3: The Pyrates by George MacDonald Fraser  
4: Colonel Roosevelt by Edmund Morris  
5. Tender Is the Night by F. Scott Fitzgerald  
6. Forward From Here by Reeve Lindberg  
7. The Goldfinch by Donna Tartt  
8. Mark: A New Translation with Introduction and Commentary, 2 volumes, by Joel Marcus  
9. The Phoenix Project by Gene Kim

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**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/34450 "2015-04-22T13:55:25Z")

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What are you reading right now?

1: Liberty’s First Crisis: Adams, Jefferson, and the Misfits Who Saved Free Speech by Charles Slack  
2: Rothstein: the Life, Times and Murder of the Man Who Fixed the 1919 World Series, by David Pietrusza  
3: The Pyrates by George MacDonald Fraser  
4: Colonel Roosevelt by Edmund Morris  
5. Tender Is the Night by F. Scott Fitzgerald  
6. Forward From Here by Reeve Lindberg  
7. The Goldfinch by Donna Tartt  
8. Mark: A New Translation with Introduction and Commentary, 2 volumes, by Joel Marcus  
9. The Phoenix Project by Gene Kim  
10. Heart of Whitenesse by Howard Waldrop. (A short story collection)

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2015, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/34451 "2015-04-22T23:36:45Z")

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What are you reading right now?

1: Liberty’s First Crisis: Adams, Jefferson, and the Misfits Who Saved Free Speech by Charles Slack  
2: Rothstein: the Life, Times and Murder of the Man Who Fixed the 1919 World Series, by David Pietrusza  
3: The Pyrates by George MacDonald Fraser  
4: Colonel Roosevelt by Edmund Morris  
5. Tender Is the Night by F. Scott Fitzgerald  
6. Forward From Here by Reeve Lindberg  
7. The Goldfinch by Donna Tartt  
8. Mark: A New Translation with Introduction and Commentary, 2 volumes, by Joel Marcus  
9. The Phoenix Project by Gene Kim  
10. Heart of Whitenesse by Howard Waldrop. (A short story collection)  
11. Right now? Right this very minute? Why, the Straight Dope, of course!

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/34452 "2015-04-23T13:58:41Z")

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What are you reading right now?

1: Liberty’s First Crisis: Adams, Jefferson, and the Misfits Who Saved Free Speech by Charles Slack  
2: Rothstein: the Life, Times and Murder of the Man Who Fixed the 1919 World Series, by David Pietrusza  
3: The Pyrates by George MacDonald Fraser  
4: Colonel Roosevelt by Edmund Morris  
5. Tender Is the Night by F. Scott Fitzgerald  
6. Forward From Here by Reeve Lindberg  
7. The Goldfinch by Donna Tartt  
8. Mark: A New Translation with Introduction and Commentary, 2 volumes, by Joel Marcus  
9. The Phoenix Project by Gene Kim  
10. Heart of Whitenesse by Howard Waldrop. (A short story collection)  
11. Right now? Right this very minute? Why, the Straight Dope, of course!  
12. Hey, so am I!

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/34453 "2015-04-23T15:03:14Z")

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What are you reading right now?

1: Liberty’s First Crisis: Adams, Jefferson, and the Misfits Who Saved Free Speech by Charles Slack  
2: Rothstein: the Life, Times and Murder of the Man Who Fixed the 1919 World Series, by David Pietrusza  
3: The Pyrates by George MacDonald Fraser  
4: Colonel Roosevelt by Edmund Morris  
5. Tender Is the Night by F. Scott Fitzgerald  
6. Forward From Here by Reeve Lindberg  
7. The Goldfinch by Donna Tartt  
8. Mark: A New Translation with Introduction and Commentary, 2 volumes, by Joel Marcus  
9. The Phoenix Project by Gene Kim  
10. Heart of Whitenesse by Howard Waldrop. (A short story collection)  
11. Right now? Right this very minute? Why, the Straight Dope, of course!  
12. Hey, so am I!  
13. The World That Never Was: A True Story of Dreamers, Schemers, Anarchists, and Secret Agents by Alex Butterworth

New category: Failed assassins (and their attempted targets)

1. John Hinckley (Ronald Reagan)

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**Author:** ![Nelson\_Pike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Nelson\_Pike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nelson_Pike)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/34454 "2015-04-23T15:08:32Z")

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What are you reading right now?

1: Liberty’s First Crisis: Adams, Jefferson, and the Misfits Who Saved Free Speech by Charles Slack  
2: Rothstein: the Life, Times and Murder of the Man Who Fixed the 1919 World Series, by David Pietrusza  
3: The Pyrates by George MacDonald Fraser  
4: Colonel Roosevelt by Edmund Morris  
5. Tender Is the Night by F. Scott Fitzgerald  
6. Forward From Here by Reeve Lindberg  
7. The Goldfinch by Donna Tartt  
8. Mark: A New Translation with Introduction and Commentary, 2 volumes, by Joel Marcus  
9. The Phoenix Project by Gene Kim  
10. Heart of Whitenesse by Howard Waldrop. (A short story collection)  
11. Right now? Right this very minute? Why, the Straight Dope, of course!  
12. Hey, so am I!  
13. Truman, by David McCullough

Generals killed in action (plus name of battle or campaign):

1. Lucius Aemilius Paullus (Cannae)

Too late!- disregard

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**Author:** ![Nelson\_Pike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Nelson\_Pike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nelson_Pike)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/34455 "2015-04-23T15:12:38Z")

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Failed assassins (and their attempted targets)

1. John Hinckley (Ronald Reagan)
2. Lewis Powell aka Lewis Payne/Paine (William H. Seward)

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/34456 "2015-04-23T15:36:35Z")

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Failed assassins (and their attempted targets)

1. John Hinckley (Ronald Reagan)
2. Lewis Powell aka Lewis Payne/Paine (William H. Seward)
3. Mehmet Ali Ağca (Pope John Paul II)

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**Author:** ![Thin\_Ice](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/aeb1de/32.png) [@Thin\_Ice](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thin_Ice)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/34457 "2015-04-23T15:40:04Z")

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Failed assassins (and their attempted targets)

1. John Hinckley (Ronald Reagan)
2. Lewis Powell aka Lewis Payne/Paine (William H. Seward)
3. Mehmet Ali Ağca (Pope John Paul II)
4. Lynette “Squeaky” Fromme (Gerald Ford)

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/34458 "2015-04-23T15:46:44Z")

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Failed assassins (and their attempted targets)

1. John Hinckley (Ronald Reagan)
2. Lewis Powell aka Lewis Payne/Paine (William H. Seward)
3. Mehmet Ali Ağca (Pope John Paul II)
4. Lynette “Squeaky” Fromme (Gerald Ford)
5. Sarah Jane Moore (also Gerald Ford!)

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/34459 "2015-04-23T16:07:32Z")

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Failed assassins (and their attempted targets)

1. John Hinckley (Ronald Reagan)
2. Lewis Powell aka Lewis Payne/Paine (William H. Seward)
3. Mehmet Ali Ağca (Pope John Paul II)
4. Lynette “Squeaky” Fromme (Gerald Ford)
5. Sarah Jane Moore (also Gerald Ford!)
6. Michael Abram (George Harrison)

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/34460 "2015-04-23T16:49:45Z")

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Failed assassins (and their attempted targets)

1. John Hinckley (Ronald Reagan)
2. Lewis Powell aka Lewis Payne/Paine (William H. Seward)
3. Mehmet Ali Ağca (Pope John Paul II)
4. Lynette “Squeaky” Fromme (Gerald Ford)
5. Sarah Jane Moore (also Gerald Ford!)
6. Michael Abram (George Harrison)
7. Oscar Collazo (one of the two Puerto Rican nationalists who tried to kill Harry Truman)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/34461 "2015-04-23T17:16:00Z")

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Failed assassins (and their attempted targets)

1. John Hinckley (Ronald Reagan)
2. Lewis Powell aka Lewis Payne/Paine (William H. Seward)
3. Mehmet Ali Ağca (Pope John Paul II)
4. Lynette “Squeaky” Fromme (Gerald Ford)
5. Sarah Jane Moore (also Gerald Ford!)
6. Michael Abram (George Harrison)
7. Oscar Collazo (one of the two Puerto Rican nationalists who tried to kill Harry Truman)
8. Samuel Byck (Richard M. Nixon)

His scheme would almost be funny if it weren’t so tragic: [Samuel Byck - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Byck)

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/34462 "2015-04-23T17:16:24Z")

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Failed assassins (and their attempted targets)

1. John Hinckley (Ronald Reagan)
2. Lewis Powell aka Lewis Payne/Paine (William H. Seward)
3. Mehmet Ali Ağca (Pope John Paul II)
4. Lynette “Squeaky” Fromme (Gerald Ford)
5. Sarah Jane Moore (also Gerald Ford!)
6. Michael Abram (George Harrison)
7. Oscar Collazo (one of the two Puerto Rican nationalists who tried to kill Harry Truman)
8. Samuel Byck (Richard M. Nixon)
9. Claus von Stauffenberg (Adolf Hitler)

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/34463 "2015-04-23T17:19:49Z")

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Failed assassins (and their attempted targets)

1. John Hinckley (Ronald Reagan)
2. Lewis Powell aka Lewis Payne/Paine (William H. Seward)
3. Mehmet Ali Ağca (Pope John Paul II)
4. Lynette “Squeaky” Fromme (Gerald Ford)
5. Sarah Jane Moore (also Gerald Ford!)
6. Michael Abram (George Harrison)
7. Oscar Collazo (one of the two Puerto Rican nationalists who tried to kill Harry Truman)
8. Samuel Byck (Richard M. Nixon)
9. Claus von Stauffenberg (Adolf Hitler)
10. Arthur Bremer (Alabama Governor George Wallace)

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