# Bakers Dozen

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 1724

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**Author:** ![Nelson\_Pike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Nelson\_Pike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nelson_Pike)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/34464 "2015-04-23T18:21:27Z")

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Failed assassins (and their attempted targets)

1. John Hinckley (Ronald Reagan)
2. Lewis Powell aka Lewis Payne/Paine (William H. Seward)
3. Mehmet Ali Ağca (Pope John Paul II)
4. Lynette “Squeaky” Fromme (Gerald Ford)
5. Sarah Jane Moore (also Gerald Ford!)
6. Michael Abram (George Harrison)
7. Oscar Collazo (one of the two Puerto Rican nationalists who tried to kill Harry Truman)
8. Samuel Byck (Richard M. Nixon)
9. Claus von Stauffenberg (Adolf Hitler)
10. Arthur Bremer (Alabama Governor George Wallace)
11. Guy Fawkes (House of Lords)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/34465 "2015-04-23T18:44:32Z")

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Failed assassins (and their attempted targets)

1. John Hinckley (Ronald Reagan)
2. Lewis Powell aka Lewis Payne/Paine (William H. Seward)
3. Mehmet Ali Ağca (Pope John Paul II)
4. Lynette “Squeaky” Fromme (Gerald Ford)
5. Sarah Jane Moore (also Gerald Ford!)
6. Michael Abram (George Harrison)
7. Oscar Collazo (one of the two Puerto Rican nationalists who tried to kill Harry Truman)
8. Samuel Byck (Richard M. Nixon)
9. Claus von Stauffenberg (Adolf Hitler)
10. Arthur Bremer (Alabama Governor George Wallace)
11. Guy Fawkes (House of Lords)
12. Lee Harvey Oswald (Edwin Walker)

Oswald’s role only came to light after JFK’s death: [Edwin Walker - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edwin_Walker)

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/34466 "2015-04-23T19:38:23Z")

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Failed assassins (and their attempted targets)

1. John Hinckley (Ronald Reagan)
2. Lewis Powell aka Lewis Payne/Paine (William H. Seward)
3. Mehmet Ali Ağca (Pope John Paul II)
4. Lynette “Squeaky” Fromme (Gerald Ford)
5. Sarah Jane Moore (also Gerald Ford!)
6. Michael Abram (George Harrison)
7. Oscar Collazo (one of the two Puerto Rican nationalists who tried to kill Harry Truman)
8. Samuel Byck (Richard M. Nixon)
9. Claus von Stauffenberg (Adolf Hitler)
10. Arthur Bremer (Alabama Governor George Wallace)
11. Guy Fawkes (House of Lords)
12. Lee Harvey Oswald (Edwin Walker)
13. Fanya Kaplan (V.I. Lenin)

I’ll pass.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/34467 "2015-04-23T19:46:41Z")

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Generals killed in action (plus name of battle or campaign):

1. Lucius Aemilius Paullus (Cannae)
2. Albert Sidney Johnston (Shiloh)

Instead of passing, I’ll revive Nelson Pike’s category.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/34468 "2015-04-23T20:08:32Z")

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Generals killed in action (plus name of battle or campaign):

1. Lucius Aemilius Paullus (Cannae)
2. Albert Sidney Johnston (Shiloh)
3. Simon Bolivar Buckner Jr (Okinawa)

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**Author:** ![swampspruce](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/swampspruce/32/261_2.png) [@swampspruce](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/swampspruce)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/34469 "2015-04-23T20:54:32Z")

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Generals killed in action (plus name of battle or campaign):

1. Lucius Aemilius Paullus (Cannae)
2. Albert Sidney Johnston (Shiloh)
3. Simon Bolivar Buckner Jr (Okinawa)
4. Tecumseh (Battle of the Thames)

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**Author:** ![Nelson\_Pike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Nelson\_Pike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nelson_Pike)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/34470 "2015-04-23T21:12:48Z")

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Generals killed in action (plus name of battle or campaign):

1. Lucius Aemilius Paullus (Cannae)
2. Albert Sidney Johnston (Shiloh)
3. Simon Bolivar Buckner Jr (Okinawa)
4. Tecumseh (Battle of the Thames)
5. Mardonius (Platea)

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**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/34471 "2015-04-23T21:44:11Z")

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Generals killed in action (plus name of battle or campaign):

1. Lucius Aemilius Paullus (Cannae)
2. Albert Sidney Johnston (Shiloh)
3. Simon Bolivar Buckner Jr (Okinawa)
4. Tecumseh (Battle of the Thames)
5. Mardonius (Platea)
6. John “They couldn’t hit an elephant at this distance” Sedgwick (American Civil War)

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/34472 "2015-04-23T23:52:41Z")

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Generals killed in action (plus name of battle or campaign):

1. Lucius Aemilius Paullus (Cannae)
2. Albert Sidney Johnston (Shiloh)
3. Simon Bolivar Buckner Jr (Okinawa)
4. Tecumseh (Battle of the Thames)
5. Mardonius (Platea)
6. John “They couldn’t hit an elephant at this distance” Sedgwick (American Civil War)
7. Harold Greene (Kabul, 2014)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2015, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/34473 "2015-04-24T00:39:06Z")

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Generals killed in action (plus name of battle or campaign):

1. Lucius Aemilius Paullus (Cannae)
2. Albert Sidney Johnston (Shiloh)
3. Simon Bolivar Buckner Jr (Okinawa)
4. Tecumseh (Battle of the Thames)
5. Mardonius (Platea)
6. John “They couldn’t hit an elephant at this distance” Sedgwick (Spotsylvania Court House, American Civil War)
7. Harold Greene (Kabul, 2014)
8. John Reynolds (Gettysburg 1863)

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**Author:** ![Nelson\_Pike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Nelson\_Pike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nelson_Pike)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2015, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/34474 "2015-04-24T00:43:12Z")

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Generals killed in action (plus name of battle or campaign):

1. Lucius Aemilius Paullus (Cannae)
2. Albert Sidney Johnston (Shiloh)
3. Simon Bolivar Buckner Jr (Okinawa)
4. Tecumseh (Battle of the Thames)
5. Mardonius (Platea)
6. John “They couldn’t hit an elephant at this distance” Sedgwick (Spotsylvania Court House, American Civil War)
7. Harold Greene (Kabul, 2014)
8. John Reynolds (Gettysburg 1863)
9. Leonidas (Thermopylae)

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2015, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/34475 "2015-04-24T01:00:56Z")

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Generals killed in action (plus name of battle or campaign):

1. Lucius Aemilius Paullus (Cannae)
2. Albert Sidney Johnston (Shiloh)
3. Simon Bolivar Buckner Jr (Okinawa)
4. Tecumseh (Battle of the Thames)
5. Mardonius (Platea)
6. John “They couldn’t hit an elephant at this distance” Sedgwick (Spotsylvania Court House, American Civil War)
7. Harold Greene (Kabul, 2014)
8. John Reynolds (Gettysburg 1863)
9. Leonidas (Thermopylae)
10. Major General James Wolfe (Battle of the Plains of Abraham - 1759 Canada)

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2015, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/34476 "2015-04-24T01:32:40Z")

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Generals killed in action (plus name of battle or campaign):

1. Lucius Aemilius Paullus (Cannae)
2. Albert Sidney Johnston (Shiloh)
3. Simon Bolivar Buckner Jr (Okinawa)
4. Tecumseh (Battle of the Thames)
5. Mardonius (Platea)
6. John “They couldn’t hit an elephant at this distance” Sedgwick (Spotsylvania Court House, American Civil War)
7. Harold Greene (Kabul, 2014)
8. John Reynolds (Gettysburg 1863)
9. Leonidas (Thermopylae)
10. Major General James Wolfe (Battle of the Plains of Abraham - 1759 Canada)
11. Harold Godwinson (Hastings)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2015, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/34477 "2015-04-24T02:40:40Z")

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Generals killed in action (plus name of battle or campaign):

1. Lucius Aemilius Paullus (Cannae)
2. Albert Sidney Johnston (Shiloh)
3. Simon Bolivar Buckner Jr (Okinawa)
4. Tecumseh (Battle of the Thames)
5. Mardonius (Platea)
6. John “They couldn’t hit an elephant at this distance” Sedgwick (Spotsylvania Court House, American Civil War)
7. Harold Greene (Kabul, 2014)
8. John Reynolds (Gettysburg 1863)
9. Leonidas (Thermopylae)
10. Major General James Wolfe (Battle of the Plains of Abraham - 1759 Canada)
11. Harold Godwinson (Hastings)
12. Maj.-Gen. Sir Edward Pakenham (Battle of New Orleans, 1815)

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2015, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/34478 "2015-04-24T03:00:09Z")

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Generals killed in action (plus name of battle or campaign):

1. Lucius Aemilius Paullus (Cannae)

2. Albert Sidney Johnston (Shiloh)

3. Simon Bolivar Buckner Jr (Okinawa)

4. Tecumseh (Battle of the Thames)

5. Mardonius (Platea)

6. John “They couldn’t hit an elephant at this distance” Sedgwick (Spotsylvania Court House, American Civil War)

7. Harold Greene (Kabul, 2014)

8. John Reynolds (Gettysburg 1863)

9. Leonidas (Thermopylae)

10. Major General James Wolfe (Battle of the Plains of Abraham - 1759 Canada)

11. Harold Godwinson (Hastings)

12. Maj.-Gen. Sir Edward Pakenham (Battle of New Orleans, 1815)

13. Leslie J. McNair (Normandy)  
New! A book you re-read every so often.

14. _The Decline and Fall of Practically Everybody_ by Will Cuppy

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**Author:** ![Thin\_Ice](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/aeb1de/32.png) [@Thin\_Ice](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thin_Ice)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2015, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/34479 "2015-04-24T11:38:14Z")

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A book you re-read every so often.

1. The Decline and Fall of Practically Everybody by Will Cuppy
2. The Barefoot Mailman by Theodore Pratt

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**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2015, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/34480 "2015-04-24T14:24:23Z")

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A book you re-read every so often.

1. The Decline and Fall of Practically Everybody by Will Cuppy
2. The Barefoot Mailman by Theodore Pratt
3. Green Eggs and Ham by Dr. Suess

I have 3 kids and this one is my favorite bedtime story. I could probably recite it by rote.

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**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2015, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/34481 "2015-04-24T14:44:03Z")

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A book you re-read every so often.

1. The Decline and Fall of Practically Everybody by Will Cuppy
2. The Barefoot Mailman by Theodore Pratt
3. Green Eggs and Ham by Dr. Suess
4. The Big Sleep, Raymond Chandler

I have an audiobook version, and I often play it at night to fall asleep to.

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**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2015, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/34482 "2015-04-24T15:08:46Z")

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A book you re-read every so often.

1. The Decline and Fall of Practically Everybody by Will Cuppy
2. The Barefoot Mailman by Theodore Pratt
3. Green Eggs and Ham by Dr. Suess
4. The Big Sleep, Raymond Chandler
5. Good Omens, Terry Pratchett and Neil Gaiman

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2015, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/34483 "2015-04-24T15:29:04Z")

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A book you re-read every so often.

1. The Decline and Fall of Practically Everybody by Will Cuppy
2. The Barefoot Mailman by Theodore Pratt
3. Green Eggs and Ham by Dr. Suess
4. The Big Sleep, Raymond Chandler
5. Good Omens, Terry Pratchett and Neil Gaiman
6. Aztec by Gary Jennings

Great historical epic - war, sex, exploration, romance, vengeance, conquest, human sacrifice, etc.

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