# Bakers Dozen

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![vannesasmith5469](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/c68b51/32.png) [@vannesasmith5469](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vannesasmith5469)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2011, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/3681 "2011-02-14T00:58:48Z")

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peekercpa  
you are rely late

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**Author:** ![Ponch8](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponch8/32/9883_2.png) [@Ponch8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponch8)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2011, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/3682 "2011-02-14T01:37:32Z")

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Classical’ Symphonies with nicknames.

1. Gustav Mahler, Symphony #1 -‘The Titan’
2. Mozart #41 “Jupiter”

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2011, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/3683 "2011-02-14T04:09:35Z")

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Classical Symphonies with nicknames.

1. Gustav Mahler, Symphony #1 -‘The Titan’
2. Mozart #41 “Jupiter”
3. Beethoven #5 “The Emperor”

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2011, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/3684 "2011-02-14T05:44:46Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Classical Symphonies with nicknames.
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> 1. Gustav Mahler, Symphony #1 -‘The Titan’
> 2. Mozart #41 “Jupiter”
> 3. Beethoven #5 “The Emperor”

I’m terribly sorry, but Beethoven’s Symphony #5 is not known as ‘The Emperor’. You’re confusing it with the Piano Concerto #5.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2011, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/3685 "2011-02-14T14:07:08Z")

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Ah, thank you.

Classical Symphonies with nicknames.

1. Gustav Mahler, Symphony #1 -‘The Titan’
2. Mozart #41 “Jupiter”
3. Beethoven #3 “Eroica”

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**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2011, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/3686 "2011-02-14T14:55:15Z")

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Classical Symphonies with nicknames.

1. Gustav Mahler, Symphony #1 -‘The Titan’
2. Mozart #41 “Jupiter”
3. Beethoven #3 “Eroica”
4. Schubert #8 - “Unfinished Symphony”

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2011, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/3687 "2011-02-14T15:00:34Z")

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Classical Symphonies with nicknames.

1. Gustav Mahler, Symphony #1 -‘The Titan’
2. Mozart #41 “Jupiter”
3. Beethoven #3 “Eroica”
4. Schubert #8 - “Unfinished Symphony”
5. Chopin Waltz in D Flat Major - “The Minute Walrz”

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**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2011, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/3688 "2011-02-14T15:21:01Z")

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> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> 1. Chopin Waltz in D Flat Major - “The Minute Walrz”

Koo Koo Kachoo!

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2011, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/3689 "2011-02-14T15:34:04Z")

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Classical Symphonies (or other works) with nicknames.

1. Gustav Mahler, Symphony #1 -‘The Titan’
2. Mozart #41 “Jupiter”
3. Beethoven #3 “Eroica”
4. Schubert #8 - “Unfinished Symphony”
5. Chopin Waltz in D Flat Major - “The Minute Walrz”
6. Mendelssohn #3 - “The Scottish Symphony”

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2011, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/3690 "2011-02-14T16:17:42Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Classical Symphonies (_ **or other works** _) with nicknames.
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> 1. Gustav Mahler, Symphony #1 -‘The Titan’
> 2. Mozart #41 “Jupiter”
> 3. Beethoven #3 “Eroica”
> 4. Schubert #8 - “Unfinished Symphony”
> 5. Chopin Waltz in D Flat Major - “The Minute Walrz”
> 6. Mendelssohn #3 - “The Scottish Symphony”

Hmm, yesss. #5. - The Chopin Waltz in Db is NOT a symphony, being a short, one movement waltz for solo piano rather than an extended work for orchestra written as an exploration of sonata form.

Should we accept the extension of the category, based as it is on an inappropriate answer? There are lots of symphonies with nicknames we haven’t mentioned yet…

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2011, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/3691 "2011-02-14T19:17:22Z")

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Classical Symphonies with nicknames.

1. Gustav Mahler, Symphony #1 -‘The Titan’
2. Mozart #41 “Jupiter”
3. Beethoven #3 “Eroica”
4. Schubert #8 - “Unfinished Symphony”
5. Mendelssohn #3 - “The Scottish Symphony”
6. Haydn #94 – “Surprise Symphony”

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**Author:** ![Ponch8](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponch8/32/9883_2.png) [@Ponch8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponch8)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2011, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/3692 "2011-02-14T19:18:28Z")

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Classical Symphonies (or other works) with nicknames.

1. Gustav Mahler, Symphony #1 -‘The Titan’
2. Mozart #41 “Jupiter”
3. Beethoven #3 “Eroica”
4. Schubert #8 - “Unfinished Symphony”
5. Chopin Waltz in D Flat Major - “The Minute Walrz”
6. Mendelssohn #3 - “The Scottish Symphony”
7. Dvorak #9 - “New World Symphony”

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2011, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/3693 "2011-02-14T19:19:11Z")

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Classical Symphonies (or other works) with nicknames.

1. Gustav Mahler, Symphony #1 -‘The Titan’
2. Mozart #41 “Jupiter”
3. Beethoven #3 “Eroica”
4. Schubert #8 - “Unfinished Symphony”
5. Chopin Waltz in D Flat Major - “The Minute Waltz”
6. Mendelssohn #3 - “The Scottish Symphony”
7. Dvorak #9 - “New World Symphony”
8. Mahler #8 “Symphony of a Thousand”

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2011, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/3694 "2011-02-14T19:36:46Z")

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Classical Symphonies with nicknames.

1. Gustav Mahler, Symphony #1 -‘The Titan’
2. Mozart #41 “Jupiter”
3. Beethoven #3 “Eroica”
4. Schubert #8 - “Unfinished Symphony”
5. Mendelssohn #3 - “The Scottish Symphony”
6. Haydn #94 – “Surprise Symphony”
7. Dvorak #9 - “New World Symphony”
8. Mahler #8 “Symphony of a Thousand”
9. Dmitri Schostakovitch, Symphony #7, ‘The Lennigrad Symphony’

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2011, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/3695 "2011-02-14T20:31:21Z")

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Classical Symphonies with nicknames.

1. Gustav Mahler, Symphony #1 -‘The Titan’
2. Mozart #41 “Jupiter”
3. Beethoven #3 “Eroica”
4. Schubert #8 - “Unfinished Symphony”
5. Mendelssohn #3 - “The Scottish Symphony”
6. Haydn #94 – “Surprise Symphony”
7. Dvorak #9 - “New World Symphony”
8. Mahler #8 “Symphony of a Thousand”
9. Dmitri Shostakovich, Symphony #7, ‘The Leningrad Symphony’
10. Beethoven #6 “Pastoral”

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2011, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/3696 "2011-02-14T20:47:26Z")

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Classical Symphonies with nicknames.

1. Gustav Mahler, Symphony #1 -‘The Titan’
2. Mozart #41 “Jupiter”
3. Beethoven #3 “Eroica”
4. Schubert #8 - “Unfinished Symphony”
5. Mendelssohn #3 - “The Scottish Symphony”
6. Haydn #94 – “Surprise Symphony”
7. Dvorak #9 - “New World Symphony”
8. Mahler #8 “Symphony of a Thousand”
9. Dmitri Shostakovich, Symphony #7, ‘The Leningrad Symphony’
10. Beethoven #6 “Pastoral”
11. Haydn #104 - The London Symphony

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2011, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/3697 "2011-02-14T21:23:19Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Classical Symphonies with nicknames.
> 
> 1. Gustav Mahler, Symphony #1 -‘The Titan’
> 2. Mozart #41 “Jupiter”
> 3. Beethoven #3 “Eroica”
> 4. Schubert #8 - “Unfinished Symphony”
> 5. Mendelssohn #3 - “The Scottish Symphony”
> 6. Haydn #94 – “Surprise Symphony”
> 7. Dvorak #9 - “New World Symphony”
> 8. Mahler #8 “Symphony of a Thousand”
> 9. Dmitri Shostakovich, Symphony #7, ‘The Leningrad Symphony’
> 10. Beethoven #6 “Pastoral”

[Hijack, just because this kind of stuff always interests me…]  
Re - Schostakovitch’s name - the German transliteration requires the ‘Sch’ combination, and that’s the source of Dmitri’s musical signature. ‘D’ for 'Dmitri, ‘Eb’ for ‘S’ (a lesser known Germanism - ‘Eb’ is called ‘ess’ when you say it out loud. Louis Spohr also used an Eb for his musical signature.), C for ‘c’ and B natural (in German, ‘H’) for h. If you transliterate it as Shostakovich, the perfectly sensible English transliteration of his name, his musical signature no longer makes sense. And that doesn’t even get into the fact that his Polish paternal grandfather spelled the name ‘Szostakowicz’…

Spohr, by the way, used Eb with a ‘piano’ marking as a whole note, followed by a B natural, followed by an eighth rest (which looks like a lower case ‘r’) as his musical signature.

[/hijack] Game on!

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2011, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/3698 "2011-02-15T13:43:12Z")

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Interesting. Could you explain “Lennigrad” to us now?

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2011, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/3699 "2011-02-15T16:10:50Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Interesting. Could you explain “Lennigrad” to us now?

That’s a just plain, old-fashioned typo produced by an extra twitch on the ‘n’ key; you see them on the innternet from time to time when stupid people are in a hurry.

1. Gustav Mahler, Symphony #1 -‘The Titan’
2. Mozart #41 “Jupiter”
3. Beethoven #3 “Eroica”
4. Schubert #8 - “Unfinished Symphony”
5. Mendelssohn #3 - “The Scottish Symphony”
6. Haydn #94 – “Surprise Symphony”
7. Dvorak #9 - “New World Symphony”
8. Mahler #8 “Symphony of a Thousand”
9. Dmitri Shostakovich, Symphony #7, ‘The Leningrad Symphony’
10. Beethoven #6 “Pastoral”
11. Haydn #104 - The London Symphony
12. Leonard Bernstein, Symphony #3 - “Kaddish”

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2011, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/3700 "2011-02-15T16:21:44Z")

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1. Gustav Mahler, Symphony #1 -‘The Titan’
2. Mozart #41 “Jupiter”
3. Beethoven #3 “Eroica”
4. Schubert #8 - “Unfinished Symphony”
5. Mendelssohn #3 - “The Scottish Symphony”
6. Haydn #94 – “Surprise Symphony”
7. Dvorak #9 - “New World Symphony”
8. Mahler #8 “Symphony of a Thousand”
9. Dmitri Shostakovich, Symphony #7, ‘The Leningrad Symphony’
10. Beethoven #6 “Pastoral”
11. Haydn #104 - The London Symphony
12. Leonard Bernstein, Symphony #3 - “Kaddish”  
13, Aaron Copland m Symphony No. 2 - “Short”

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