# Bakers Dozen **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1928
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2015, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/38544 "2015-10-15T22:36:19Z")
Famous people who “very probably” committed murder after being famous 1. O.J. Simpson 2. Robert Blake 3. Phil Spector 4. Matthew Broderick In 1987, Matthew Broderick and his then-girlfriend and Ferris Bueller’s Day Off co-star, Jennifer Grey, were on vacation in Ireland. Broderick mistakenly drove the wrong way on a street and crashed into on oncoming vehicle. The driver and passenger in the other car both died from their injuries. ---
**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2015, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/38545 "2015-10-15T23:25:18Z")
Famous people who “very probably” committed murder after being famous 1. O.J. Simpson 2. Robert Blake 3. Phil Spector 4. Matthew Broderick 5. Hillary Clinton (Vince Foster,according to some. “Very probably” not my characterization, and therefor not a political jab.) ---
**Author:** ![Leo\_Bloom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leo_bloom/32/10377_2.png) [@Leo\_Bloom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Bloom)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2015, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/38546 "2015-10-15T23:30:16Z")
> [@Infovore](#): > > … > Sorry, 3 answers in a row isn’t really fair. I’m counting all three as one answer, since they’re all Spinal Tap. Yes, absolutely, I agree. That’s why I gave them sub-indices. I just thought the extra information should be more widely known, given the uncanny circumstances. ---
**Author:** ![Leo\_Bloom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leo_bloom/32/10377_2.png) [@Leo\_Bloom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Bloom)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2015, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/38547 "2015-10-15T23:35:46Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > Famous people who “very probably” committed murder after being famous > > 1. O.J. Simpson > 2. Robert Blake > 3. Phil Spector > 4. Matthew Broderick > > In 1987, Matthew Broderick and his then-girlfriend and Ferris Bueller’s Day Off co-star, Jennifer Grey, were on vacation in Ireland. Broderick mistakenly drove the wrong way on a street and crashed into on oncoming vehicle. The driver and passenger in the other car both died from their injuries. I must protest: “murder” was never the issue, or a “probable” later on (pace Hillary). Manslaughter. ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2015, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/38548 "2015-10-15T23:42:52Z")
Famous people who “very probably” committed murder after being famous 1. O.J. Simpson 2. Robert Blake 3. Phil Spector 4. Matthew Broderick 5. Hillary Clinton 6. NY Ranger Ron Stewart (killed Hall of Fame goalie Terry Sawchuk) ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/38549 "2015-10-16T00:25:29Z")
> [@Leo\_Bloom](#): > > I must protest: “murder” was never the issue, or a “probable” later on (pace Hillary). Manslaughter. Duly noted, though I don’t know if we can actually come up with a Baker’s Dozen of actual peers of O.J. Since he began the round, it’s up to OneCentStamp to make the judgment call. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/38550 "2015-10-16T01:35:35Z")
Famous people who “very probably” committed murder after being famous 1. O.J. Simpson 2. Robert Blake 3. Phil Spector 4. Matthew Broderick 5. Hillary Clinton 6. NY Ranger Ron Stewart (killed Hall of Fame goalie Terry Sawchuk) 7. Ted Williams (fighter pilot in Korea) It’s merely a game on a message board - we should use as loose a definition of “murder” as we can. If you kill a person… you’re game for this list. All imho. Also, I would like to commend the Boards restraint for not mentioning INXS singer Michael Hutchence in two straight categories of bizarre celebrity deaths/suicides. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/38551 "2015-10-16T02:04:32Z")
Famous people who “very probably” committed murder after being famous 1. O.J. Simpson 2. Robert Blake 3. Phil Spector 4. Matthew Broderick 5. Hillary Clinton 6. NY Ranger Ron Stewart (killed Hall of Fame goalie Terry Sawchuk) 7. Ted Williams (fighter pilot in Korea) 8. Oscar Pistorius ---
**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/38552 "2015-10-16T03:45:51Z")
Famous people who “very probably” committed murder after being famous 1. O.J. Simpson 2. Robert Blake 3. Phil Spector 4. Matthew Broderick 5. Hillary Clinton 6. NY Ranger Ron Stewart (killed Hall of Fame goalie Terry Sawchuk) 7. Ted Williams (fighter pilot in Korea) 8. Oscar Pistorius 9. Claudine Longet ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/38553 "2015-10-16T03:56:31Z")
Yeah, “killed somebody” would be better phrasing than the legally-specific “committed murder” IMHO. Famous people who “very probably” committed murder after being famous 1. O.J. Simpson 2. Robert Blake 3. Phil Spector 4. Matthew Broderick 5. Hillary Clinton 6. NY Ranger Ron Stewart (killed Hall of Fame goalie Terry Sawchuk) 7. Ted Williams (fighter pilot in Korea) 8. Oscar Pistorius 9. Claudine Longet 10. Bruce/Caitlyn Jenner ---
**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/38554 "2015-10-16T04:05:31Z")
Famous people who [del]committed murder[/del] killed somebody after being famous. 1. O.J. Simpson 2. Robert Blake 3. Phil Spector 4. Matthew Broderick 5. Hillary Clinton 6. NY Ranger Ron Stewart (killed Hall of Fame goalie Terry Sawchuk) 7. Ted Williams (fighter pilot in Korea) 8. Oscar Pistorius 9. Claudine Longet 10. Bruce/Caitlyn Jenner 11. Tony Stewart Yeah, only the first three count as murder (and the Clinton/Foster situation is utterly specious.) ---
**Author:** ![Mudshark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f04885/32.png) [@Mudshark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mudshark)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/38555 "2015-10-16T04:11:31Z")
1. O.J. Simpson 2. Robert Blake 3. Phil Spector 4. Matthew Broderick 5. Hillary Clinton 6. NY Ranger Ron Stewart (killed Hall of Fame goalie Terry Sawchuk) 7. Ted Williams (fighter pilot in Korea) 8. Oscar Pistorius 9. Claudine Longet 10. Bruce/Caitlyn Jenner 11. Tony Stewart 12. Keith Moon ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/38556 "2015-10-16T04:37:27Z")
Famous people who killed somebody after being famous. 1. O.J. Simpson 2. Robert Blake 3. Phil Spector 4. Matthew Broderick 5. Hillary Clinton 6. NY Ranger Ron Stewart (killed Hall of Fame goalie Terry Sawchuk) 7. Ted Williams (fighter pilot in Korea) 8. Oscar Pistorius 9. Claudine Longet 10. Bruce/Caitlyn Jenner 11. Tony Stewart 12. Keith Moon 13. John Wilkes Booth Next category: “House of Cards” (American version) characters 1. Frank Underwood ---
**Author:** ![TheSpeculationElucidation](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@TheSpeculationElucidation](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheSpeculationElucidation)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 10:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/38557 "2015-10-16T10:03:38Z")
“House of Cards” (American version) characters 1. Frank Underwood 2. Claire Underwood ---
**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/38558 "2015-10-16T13:44:11Z")
1. “House of Cards” (American version) characters 2. Frank Underwood 3. Claire Underwood 4. Disgruntled shipbuilder ---
**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/38559 "2015-10-16T13:49:55Z")
“House of Cards” (American version) characters 1. Frank Underwood 2. Claire Underwood 3. Disgruntled shipbuilder 4. Doug Stamper ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/38560 "2015-10-16T14:27:05Z")
“House of Cards” (American version) characters 1. Frank Underwood 2. Claire Underwood 3. Disgruntled shipbuilder 4. Doug Stamper 5. Anti-Union protester IMDB says he was in 5 episodes. ---
**Author:** ![Leo\_Bloom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leo_bloom/32/10377_2.png) [@Leo\_Bloom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Bloom)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/38561 "2015-10-16T16:00:32Z")
1. O.J. Simpson 2. Robert Blake 3. Phil Spector 4. Matthew Broderick 5. Hillary Clinton 6. NY Ranger Ron Stewart (killed Hall of Fame goalie Terry Sawchuk) 7. Ted Williams (fighter pilot in Korea) 8. Oscar Pistorius 9. Claudine Longet 10. Bruce/Caitlyn Jenner 11. Tony Stewart 12. Keith Moon 13. Ted Kennedy New: Scariest moment in your life (Intense _sudden_ , ranging from the most effective “boo” or prank to “oh Christ, I could die this very moment and I’m about to or actually losing it.”) 1, Tie: in summer camp age 7 when the older kids and counselors had us watch “Psycho”; in target range, hearing first wave of Scud attack, Gulf War ---
**Author:** ![Leo\_Bloom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leo_bloom/32/10377_2.png) [@Leo\_Bloom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Bloom)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/38562 "2015-10-16T16:12:21Z")
[ :smack: fuck, what’s the matter with me? Looks like I’m forcing my way in to pre-position myself–I’m not, just not taking enough time, or not seeing page jump, or something. And it wasn’t even ninja’ed. I’ve done this more than once, and I apologize. ] ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/38563 "2015-10-16T16:43:49Z")
Scariest moment in your life 1. Tie: in summer camp age 7 when the older kids and counselors had us watch “Psycho”; in target range, hearing first wave of Scud attack, Gulf War 2. When my 1 year old son (who’d just started running for the first time) fell and cut his head on our coffee table. He wasn’t hurt seriously, as it turned out, but he bled so profusely that I was in a blind panic as I drove him to the ER. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173.md?page=1927) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173.md?page=1929)