# Bakers Dozen

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/39144 "2015-11-06T16:25:30Z")

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Characters Who Survive In Movies But Died In the Book

1. Matt Hooper from “Jaws”
2. Quasimodo from “The Hunchback of Notre-Dame”
3. Lafayette Reynolds in “True Blood”, based on “The Southern Vampire Mysteries”
4. John Hammond from “Jurassic Park”
5. Eddie Spinola AKA Morra in “Limitless”
6. John Rambo from First Blood
7. Jean Valjean, in Liam Neeson’s “Les Miserables”
8. Tad Trenton in “Cujo”
9. Dr. Ian Malcolm in “Jurassic Park”
10. Ben Richards in “The Running Man”

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**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/39145 "2015-11-06T16:36:07Z")

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Characters Who Survive In Movies But Died In the Book

1. Matt Hooper from “Jaws”
2. Quasimodo from “The Hunchback of Notre-Dame”
3. Lafayette Reynolds in “True Blood”, based on “The Southern Vampire Mysteries”
4. John Hammond from “Jurassic Park”
5. Eddie Spinola AKA Morra in “Limitless”
6. John Rambo from First Blood
7. Jean Valjean, in Liam Neeson’s “Les Miserables”
8. Tad Trenton in “Cujo”
9. Dr. Ian Malcolm in “Jurassic Park”
10. Ben Richards in “The Running Man”
11. Saruman in “The Lord of the Rings: Return of the King”

An odd example – Saruman survives in the movie’s theatrical version, but dies in the extended edition.

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**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/39146 "2015-11-06T17:08:28Z")

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Characters Who Survive In Movies But Died In the Book

1. Matt Hooper from “Jaws”
2. Quasimodo from “The Hunchback of Notre-Dame”
3. Lafayette Reynolds in “True Blood”, based on “The Southern Vampire Mysteries”
4. John Hammond from “Jurassic Park”
5. Eddie Spinola AKA Morra in “Limitless”
6. John Rambo from First Blood
7. Jean Valjean, in Liam Neeson’s “Les Miserables”
8. Tad Trenton in “Cujo”
9. Dr. Ian Malcolm in “Jurassic Park”
10. Ben Richards in “The Running Man”
11. Saruman in “The Lord of the Rings: Return of the King”
12. Billy “Badass” Buddusky in “The Last Detail”

Apparently retconned in the sequel “Last Flag Flying”

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/39147 "2015-11-06T20:00:00Z")

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Characters Who Survive In Movies But Died In the Book

1. Matt Hooper from “Jaws”
2. Quasimodo from “The Hunchback of Notre-Dame”
3. Lafayette Reynolds in “True Blood”, based on “The Southern Vampire Mysteries”
4. John Hammond from “Jurassic Park”
5. Eddie Spinola AKA Morra in “Limitless”
6. John Rambo from First Blood
7. Jean Valjean, in Liam Neeson’s “Les Miserables”
8. Tad Trenton in “Cujo”
9. Dr. Ian Malcolm in “Jurassic Park”
10. Ben Richards in “The Running Man”
11. Saruman in “The Lord of the Rings: Return of the King”
12. Billy “Badass” Buddusky in “The Last Detail”
13. T.S. Garp in “The World According to Garp”

Next up: Movies that changed the title of the work they were based on

1. Life With Mother Superior --\> The Trouble With Angels

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/39148 "2015-11-06T20:12:34Z")

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Movies that changed the title of the work they were based on

1. Life With Mother Superior --\> The Trouble With Angels
2. The Dark Fields --\> Limitless

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/39149 "2015-11-06T20:14:15Z")

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Movies that changed the title of the work they were based on

1. Life With Mother Superior --\> The Trouble With Angels
2. The Dark Fields --\> Limitless
3. Be Ready with Bells and Drums --\> A Patch of Blue

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/39150 "2015-11-06T20:25:05Z")

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Movies that changed the title of the work they were based on

1. Life With Mother Superior --\> The Trouble With Angels
2. The Dark Fields --\> Limitless
3. Be Ready with Bells and Drums --\> A Patch of Blue
4. Nothing Lasts Forever --\> Die Hard

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**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/39151 "2015-11-06T20:40:24Z")

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> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> 1. T.S. Garp in “The World According to Garp”

While technically true, I always felt that Garp wasn’t going to survive very much longer…  
Movies that changed the title of the work they were based on

1. Life With Mother Superior –\> The Trouble With Angels
2. The Dark Fields –\> Limitless
3. Be Ready with Bells and Drums –\> A Patch of Blue
4. Nothing Lasts Forever –\> Die Hard
5. Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? –\> Blade Runner

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/39152 "2015-11-06T20:49:55Z")

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Movies that changed the title of the work they were based on

1. Life With Mother Superior --\> The Trouble With Angels
2. The Dark Fields --\> Limitless
3. Be Ready with Bells and Drums --\> A Patch of Blue
4. Nothing Lasts Forever --\> Die Hard
5. Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? --\> Blade Runner
6. Rita Hayward & The Shawshank Redemption --\> The Shawshank Redemption

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/39153 "2015-11-06T21:00:50Z")

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Movies that changed the title of the work they were based on

1. Life With Mother Superior --\> The Trouble With Angels
2. The Dark Fields --\> Limitless
3. Be Ready with Bells and Drums --\> A Patch of Blue
4. Nothing Lasts Forever --\> Die Hard
5. Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? --\> Blade Runner
6. Rita Hayward & The Shawshank Redemption --\> The Shawshank Redemption
7. Shoeless Joe --\> Field Of Dreams

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**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/39154 "2015-11-06T21:37:21Z")

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Movies that changed the title of the work they were based on

1. Life With Mother Superior → The Trouble With Angels
2. The Dark Fields → Limitless
3. Be Ready with Bells and Drums → A Patch of Blue
4. Nothing Lasts Forever → Die Hard
5. Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? → Blade Runner
6. Rita Hayworth & Shawshank Redemption → The Shawshank Redemption
7. Shoeless Joe → Field Of Dreams
8. The Body → Stand By Me  
While posting my own example from _Different Seasons,_ did a slight fix on #6. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/39155 "2015-11-06T22:18:05Z")

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Movies that changed the title of the work they were based on

1. Life With Mother Superior --\> The Trouble With Angels
2. The Dark Fields --\> Limitless
3. Be Ready with Bells and Drums --\> A Patch of Blue
4. Nothing Lasts Forever --\> Die Hard
5. Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? --\> Blade Runner
6. Rita Hayworth & Shawshank Redemption --\> The Shawshank Redemption
7. Shoeless Joe --\> Field Of Dreams
8. The Body --\> Stand By Me
9. The Short Timers --\> Full Metal Jacket

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**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/39156 "2015-11-06T22:21:27Z")

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Movies that changed the title of the work they were based on

1. Life With Mother Superior --\> The Trouble With Angels
2. The Dark Fields --\> Limitless
3. Be Ready with Bells and Drums --\> A Patch of Blue
4. Nothing Lasts Forever --\> Die Hard
5. Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? --\> Blade Runner
6. Rita Hayworth & Shawshank Redemption --\> The Shawshank Redemption
7. Shoeless Joe --\> Field Of Dreams
8. The Body --\> Stand By Me
9. The Short Timers --\> Full Metal Jacket
10. We Can Remember It for You Wholesale --\> Total Recall

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**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/39157 "2015-11-06T22:52:04Z")

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Movies that changed the title of the work they were based on

1. Life With Mother Superior --\> The Trouble With Angels
2. The Dark Fields --\> Limitless
3. Be Ready with Bells and Drums --\> A Patch of Blue
4. Nothing Lasts Forever --\> Die Hard
5. Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? --\> Blade Runner
6. Rita Hayworth & Shawshank Redemption --\> The Shawshank Redemption
7. Shoeless Joe --\> Field Of Dreams
8. The Body --\> Stand By Me
9. The Short Timers --\> Full Metal Jacket
10. We Can Remember It for You Wholesale --\> Total Recall
11. Lost Moon --\> Apollo 13

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**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2015, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/39158 "2015-11-06T23:38:20Z")

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Movies that changed the title of the work they were based on

1. Life With Mother Superior --\> The Trouble With Angels
2. The Dark Fields --\> Limitless
3. Be Ready with Bells and Drums --\> A Patch of Blue
4. Nothing Lasts Forever --\> Die Hard
5. Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? --\> Blade Runner
6. Rita Hayworth & Shawshank Redemption --\> The Shawshank Redemption
7. Shoeless Joe --\> Field Of Dreams
8. The Body --\> Stand By Me
9. The Short Timers --\> Full Metal Jacket
10. We Can Remember It for You Wholesale --\> Total Recall
11. Lost Moon --\> Apollo 13
12. Babylon Revisited --\> The Last Time I Saw Paris

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**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2015, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/39159 "2015-11-07T01:43:31Z")

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Movies that changed the title of the work they were based on

1. Life With Mother Superior --\> The Trouble With Angels
2. The Dark Fields --\> Limitless
3. Be Ready with Bells and Drums --\> A Patch of Blue
4. Nothing Lasts Forever --\> Die Hard
5. Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? --\> Blade Runner
6. Rita Hayworth & Shawshank Redemption --\> The Shawshank Redemption
7. Shoeless Joe --\> Field Of Dreams
8. The Body --\> Stand By Me
9. The Short Timers --\> Full Metal Jacket
10. We Can Remember It for You Wholesale --\> Total Recall
11. Lost Moon --\> Apollo 13
12. Babylon Revisited --\> The Last Time I Saw Paris
13. The Positronic Man --\> Bicentennial Man

Pass.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2015, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/39160 "2015-11-07T02:47:26Z")

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New! French philosophers

1. Albert Camus

(tomorrow is his birthday)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2015, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/39161 "2015-11-07T02:58:12Z")

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French philosophers

1. Albert Camus
2. Voltaire

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**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2015, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/39162 "2015-11-07T03:22:14Z")

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French philosophers

1. Albert Camus
2. Voltaire
3. René Descartes

_When asked if he’d like fries with his order, Descartes said: “I think not!” – and promptly disappeared._

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2015, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/39163 "2015-11-07T03:28:14Z")

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French philosophers

1. Albert Camus
2. Voltaire
3. René Descartes
4. Michel De Montaigne

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