# Bakers Dozen **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2011
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/40204 "2015-12-09T14:57:15Z")
War Poems, Because on 09 Dec 1854 Alfred, Lord Tennyson Published His Poem “The Charge of the Light Brigade” (Crimean War) - Title, Poet & Date 1. In Flanders Fields - Lieutenant Colonel John McRae, 03 May 1915 2. Requiem for the Croppies - Seamus Heaney. 1969 3. Strange Meeting by Wilfred Owen, 1918 4. Atrocities – Siegfried Sassoon 5. i sing of olaf, glad and big - e. e. cummings, 1931 ---
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War Poems, Because on 09 Dec 1854 Alfred, Lord Tennyson Published His Poem “The Charge of the Light Brigade” (Crimean War) - Title, Poet & Date 1. In Flanders Fields - Lieutenant Colonel John McRae, 03 May 1915 2. Requiem for the Croppies - Seamus Heaney. 1969 3. Strange Meeting by Wilfred Owen, 1918 4. Atrocities – Siegfried Sassoon 5. i sing of olaf, glad and big - e. e. cummings, 1931 6. The Death of the Ball Turret Gunner – Randall Jarrell, 1945 ---
**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/40206 "2015-12-09T15:17:09Z")
War Poems, Because on 09 Dec 1854 Alfred, Lord Tennyson Published His Poem “The Charge of the Light Brigade” (Crimean War) - Title, Poet & Date 1. In Flanders Fields - Lieutenant Colonel John McRae, 03 May 1915 2. Requiem for the Croppies - Seamus Heaney. 1969 3. Strange Meeting by Wilfred Owen, 1918 4. Atrocities – Siegfried Sassoon 5. i sing of olaf, glad and big - e. e. cummings, 1931 6. The Death of the Ball Turret Gunner – Randall Jarrell, 1945 7. I’m Explaining a Few Things - Pablo Neruda, 1970 ---
**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/40207 "2015-12-09T15:22:49Z")
War Poems, Because on 09 Dec 1854 Alfred, Lord Tennyson Published His Poem “The Charge of the Light Brigade” (Crimean War) - Title, Poet & Date 1. In Flanders Fields - Lieutenant Colonel John McRae, 03 May 1915 2. Requiem for the Croppies - Seamus Heaney. 1969 3. Strange Meeting by Wilfred Owen, 1918 4. Atrocities – Siegfried Sassoon 5. i sing of olaf, glad and big - e. e. cummings, 1931 6. The Death of the Ball Turret Gunner – Randall Jarrell, 1945 7. I’m Explaining a Few Things - Pablo Neruda, 1970 8. Brown Bess - Rudyard Kipling, 1911 ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/40208 "2015-12-09T15:36:05Z")
War Poems, Because on 09 Dec 1854 Alfred, Lord Tennyson Published His Poem “The Charge of the Light Brigade” (Crimean War) - Title, Poet & Date 1. In Flanders Fields - Lieutenant Colonel John McRae, 03 May 1915 2. Requiem for the Croppies - Seamus Heaney. 1969 3. Strange Meeting by Wilfred Owen, 1918 4. Atrocities – Siegfried Sassoon 5. i sing of olaf, glad and big - e. e. cummings, 1931 6. The Death of the Ball Turret Gunner – Randall Jarrell, 1945 7. I’m Explaining a Few Things - Pablo Neruda, 1970 8. Brown Bess - Rudyard Kipling, 1911 9. In Westminster Abbey - John Betjeman, 1940 😉 😛 ---
**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/40209 "2015-12-09T15:42:01Z")
War Poems, Because on 09 Dec 1854 Alfred, Lord Tennyson Published His Poem “The Charge of the Light Brigade” (Crimean War) - Title, Poet & Date 1. In Flanders Fields - Lieutenant Colonel John McRae, 03 May 1915 2. Requiem for the Croppies - Seamus Heaney. 1969 3. Strange Meeting by Wilfred Owen, 1918 4. Atrocities – Siegfried Sassoon 5. i sing of olaf, glad and big - e. e. cummings, 1931 6. The Death of the Ball Turret Gunner – Randall Jarrell, 1945 7. I’m Explaining a Few Things - Pablo Neruda, 1970 8. Brown Bess - Rudyard Kipling, 1911 9. In Westminster Abbey - John Betjeman, 1940 10. Любо, братцы, любо – (Lovely, Brothers, Lovely) traditional Cossack song. [Lovely, Brothers, Lovely - cossacks song - Cossacks WW2 photo - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eo7zLymLTtc) ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/40210 "2015-12-09T16:47:24Z")
War Poems, Because on 09 Dec 1854 Alfred, Lord Tennyson Published His Poem “The Charge of the Light Brigade” (Crimean War) - Title, Poet & Date 1. In Flanders Fields - Lieutenant Colonel John McRae, 03 May 1915 2. Requiem for the Croppies - Seamus Heaney. 1969 3. Strange Meeting by Wilfred Owen, 1918 4. Atrocities – Siegfried Sassoon 5. i sing of olaf, glad and big - e. e. cummings, 1931 6. The Death of the Ball Turret Gunner – Randall Jarrell, 1945 7. I’m Explaining a Few Things - Pablo Neruda, 1970 8. Brown Bess - Rudyard Kipling, 1911 9. In Westminster Abbey - John Betjeman, 1940 10. Любо, братцы, любо – (Lovely, Brothers, Lovely) traditional Cossack song. 11. Gunga Din - Rudyard Kipling, 1892 ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/40211 "2015-12-09T16:59:04Z")
War Poems, Because on 09 Dec 1854 Alfred, Lord Tennyson Published His Poem “The Charge of the Light Brigade” (Crimean War) - Title, Poet & Date 1. In Flanders Fields - Lieutenant Colonel John McRae, 03 May 1915 2. Requiem for the Croppies - Seamus Heaney. 1969 3. Strange Meeting by Wilfred Owen, 1918 4. Atrocities – Siegfried Sassoon 5. i sing of olaf, glad and big - e. e. cummings, 1931 6. The Death of the Ball Turret Gunner – Randall Jarrell, 1945 7. I’m Explaining a Few Things - Pablo Neruda, 1970 8. Brown Bess - Rudyard Kipling, 1911 9. In Westminster Abbey - John Betjeman, 1940 10. Любо, братцы, любо – (Lovely, Brothers, Lovely) traditional Cossack song. 11. Gunga Din - Rudyard Kipling, 1892 12. The Destruction of Sennacherib - Lord Byron, 1815 ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/40212 "2015-12-09T17:24:04Z")
War Poems, Because on 09 Dec 1854 Alfred, Lord Tennyson Published His Poem “The Charge of the Light Brigade” (Crimean War) - Title, Poet & Date 1. In Flanders Fields - Lieutenant Colonel John McRae, 03 May 1915 2. Requiem for the Croppies - Seamus Heaney. 1969 3. Strange Meeting by Wilfred Owen, 1918 4. Atrocities – Siegfried Sassoon 5. i sing of olaf, glad and big - e. e. cummings, 1931 6. The Death of the Ball Turret Gunner – Randall Jarrell, 1945 7. I’m Explaining a Few Things - Pablo Neruda, 1970 8. Brown Bess - Rudyard Kipling, 1911 9. In Westminster Abbey - John Betjeman, 1940 10. Любо, братцы, любо – (Lovely, Brothers, Lovely) traditional Cossack song. 11. Gunga Din - Rudyard Kipling, 1892 12. The Destruction of Sennacherib - Lord Byron, 1815 13. The Treasure, Rupert Brooke, 1914 Famous people who were illegitimate 1. Alexander Hamilton ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/40213 "2015-12-09T17:30:43Z")
Famous people who were illegitimate 1. Alexander Hamilton 2. John James Audubon ---
**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/40214 "2015-12-09T17:38:40Z")
Famous people who were illegitimate 1. Alexander Hamilton 2. John James Audubon 3. William I of England (aka William the Conqueror, aka William the Bastard) ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/40215 "2015-12-09T18:30:29Z")
Famous people who are/were illegitimate 1. Alexander Hamilton 2. John James Audubon 3. William I of England (aka William the Conqueror, aka William the Bastard) 4. Sophia Loren ---
**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/40216 "2015-12-09T18:32:26Z")
Famous people who are/were illegitimate 1. Alexander Hamilton 2. John James Audubon 3. William I of England (aka William the Conqueror, aka William the Bastard) 4. Sophia Loren 5. Leonardo da Vinci ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/40217 "2015-12-09T18:34:41Z")
Famous people who are/were illegitimate 1. Alexander Hamilton 2. John James Audubon 3. William I of England (aka William the Conqueror, aka William the Bastard) 4. Sophia Loren 5. Leonardo da Vinci 6. Billie Holiday ---
**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/40218 "2015-12-09T18:42:35Z")
Famous people who are/were illegitimate 1. Alexander Hamilton 2. John James Audubon 3. William I of England (aka William the Conqueror, aka William the Bastard) 4. Sophia Loren 5. Leonardo da Vinci 6. Billie Holiday 7. Liv Tyler ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/40219 "2015-12-09T18:52:33Z")
Famous people who are/were illegitimate 1. Alexander Hamilton 2. John James Audubon 3. William I of England (aka William the Conqueror, aka William the Bastard) 4. Sophia Loren 5. Leonardo da Vinci 6. Billie Holiday 7. Liv Tyler 8. Sean Astin Actually kind of arguable: His mother, Patty Duke, was unmarried when he was born. He grew up thinking his bio-father was John Astin, who she’d had an affair with and married after Sean was born. When when he was a teenager learned it was probably Desi Arnaz, Jr. (who he looks much more like than he does John Astin and who Patty Duke, in spite of genetic evidence, still insists it is). Then when he was in his 20s he learned it was actually a guy his mother was very briefly married to after learning she was pregnant but not at the time of his birth. Patty Duke claims it is impossible for him to be the father due to dates, but, apparently not. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/40220 "2015-12-09T19:08:31Z")
Famous people who are/were illegitimate 1. Alexander Hamilton 2. John James Audubon 3. William I of England (aka William the Conqueror, aka William the Bastard) 4. Sophia Loren 5. Leonardo da Vinci 6. Billie Holiday 7. Liv Tyler 8. Sean Astin 9. Fidel Castro ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/40221 "2015-12-09T19:09:41Z")
Famous people who are/were illegitimate 1. Alexander Hamilton 2. John James Audubon 3. William I of England (aka William the Conqueror, aka William the Bastard) 4. Sophia Loren 5. Leonardo da Vinci 6. Billie Holiday 7. Liv Tyler 8. Sean Astin 9. Fidel Castro 10. Eric Clapton - father was a Canadian soldier who abandoned his pregnant teenage mother (growing up, Clapton thought his real mother was his big sister, and that his grandmother was his mother). ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/40222 "2015-12-09T19:29:42Z")
Famous people who are/were illegitimate 1. Alexander Hamilton 2. John James Audubon 3. William I of England (aka William the Conqueror, aka William the Bastard) 4. Sophia Loren 5. Leonardo da Vinci 6. Billie Holiday 7. Liv Tyler 8. Sean Astin 9. Fidel Castro 10. Eric Clapton 11. Jack Nicholson Similar to Clapton - a very strange situation: [Jack Nicholson - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_nicholson#Early_life) ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2015, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/40223 "2015-12-09T19:43:34Z")
Famous people who are/were illegitimate 1. Alexander Hamilton 2. John James Audubon 3. William I of England (aka William the Conqueror, aka William the Bastard) 4. Sophia Loren 5. Leonardo da Vinci 6. Billie Holiday 7. Liv Tyler 8. Sean Astin 9. Fidel Castro 10. Eric Clapton 11. Jack Nicholson 12. Trevor Noah His parents were legally unable to marry or even cohabit in South Africa (his father is white and his father is black). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173.md?page=2010) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173.md?page=2012)