# Bakers Dozen **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2021
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2015, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/40404 "2015-12-17T14:02:36Z")
Strong characters who later suffered from Character Derailment 1. Yuna from Final Fantasy X, in Final Fantasy X-2 2. Kate Austen from Lost 3. The Fonz, on _Happy Days_ 4. Hannibal Lecter ---
**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2015, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/40405 "2015-12-17T14:59:52Z")
Strong characters who later suffered from Character Derailment 1. Yuna from Final Fantasy X, in Final Fantasy X-2 2. Kate Austen from Lost 3. The Fonz, on Happy Days 4. Hannibal Lecter 5. Roseanne ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2015, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/40406 "2015-12-17T18:23:58Z")
Strong characters who later suffered from Character Derailment 1. Yuna from Final Fantasy X, in Final Fantasy X-2 2. Kate Austen from Lost 3. The Fonz, on Happy Days 4. Hannibal Lecter 5. Roseanne 6. Hal Jordan ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2015, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/40407 "2015-12-17T18:30:49Z")
Strong characters who later suffered from Character Derailment 1. Yuna from Final Fantasy X, in Final Fantasy X-2 2. Kate Austen from Lost 3. The Fonz, on Happy Days 4. Hannibal Lecter 5. Roseanne 6. Hal Jordan 7. Darth Vader Went from the biggest, baddest Force choking mofo in the galaxy to a whiny teenager. Or is that reverse character derailment? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2015, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/40408 "2015-12-18T03:27:28Z")
I was gonna mention Vader, too. Strong characters who later suffered from Character Derailment 1. Yuna from Final Fantasy X, in Final Fantasy X-2 2. Kate Austen from Lost 3. The Fonz, on Happy Days 4. Hannibal Lecter 5. Roseanne 6. Hal Jordan 7. Darth Vader 8. Worf ---
**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2015, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/40409 "2015-12-18T13:31:21Z")
Strong characters who later suffered from Character Derailment 1. Yuna from Final Fantasy X, in Final Fantasy X-2 2. Kate Austen from Lost 3. The Fonz, on Happy Days 4. Hannibal Lecter 5. Roseanne 6. Hal Jordan 7. Darth Vader 8. Worf 9. Bob Newhart ---
**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2015, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/40410 "2015-12-18T15:21:45Z")
Strong characters who later suffered from Character Derailment 1. Yuna from Final Fantasy X, in Final Fantasy X-2 2. Kate Austen from Lost 3. The Fonz, on Happy Days 4. Hannibal Lecter 5. Roseanne 6. Hal Jordan 7. Darth Vader 8. Worf 9. Bob Newhart 10. Tim “The Tool Man” Taylor Started off a great character, descended into a complete buffoon by about season 3. ---
**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2015, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/40411 "2015-12-18T17:51:58Z")
Strong characters who later suffered from Character Derailment 1. Yuna from Final Fantasy X, in Final Fantasy X-2 2. Kate Austen from Lost 3. The Fonz, on Happy Days 4. Hannibal Lecter 5. Roseanne 6. Hal Jordan 7. Darth Vader 8. Worf 9. Bob Newhart 10. Tim “The Tool Man” Taylor 11. Han Solo He’s a wisecracking sitcom character by Return of the Jedi. Haven’t seen the new movie; maybe they redeemed him. ---
**Author:** ![Eutychus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Eutychus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eutychus)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2015, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/40412 "2015-12-18T17:57:30Z")
Strong characters who later suffered from Character Derailment 1. Yuna from Final Fantasy X, in Final Fantasy X-2 2. Kate Austen from Lost 3. The Fonz, on Happy Days 4. Hannibal Lecter 5. Roseanne 6. Hal Jordan 7. Darth Vader 8. Worf 9. Bob Newhart 10. Tim “The Tool Man” Taylor 11. Han Solo 12. Adrian Monk (Bear with me on this … in the TV show he was great as the detective who was at least trying to get his OCD under control, but then Andy Bregman started writing books featuring him, and the OCD is so outlandish that the books are almost unreadable.) ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2015, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/40413 "2015-12-18T20:35:21Z")
Strong characters who later suffered from Character Derailment 1. Yuna from Final Fantasy X, in Final Fantasy X-2 2. Kate Austen from Lost 3. The Fonz, on Happy Days 4. Hannibal Lecter 5. Roseanne 6. Hal Jordan 7. Darth Vader 8. Worf 9. Bob Newhart 10. Tim “The Tool Man” Taylor 11. Han Solo 12. Adrian Monk 13. Gregory House Next up: Best Christmas Episodes of a TV Show: 1. Simpsons Roasting on an Open Fire ---
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2015, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/40414 "2015-12-18T20:37:16Z")
Next up: Best Christmas Episodes of a TV Show: 1. Simpsons Roasting on an Open Fire 2. Doctor Who, “The Christmas Invasion” ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2015, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/40415 "2015-12-18T20:51:16Z")
Next up: Best Christmas Episodes of a TV Show: 1. Simpsons Roasting on an Open Fire 2. Doctor Who, “The Christmas Invasion” 3. The Big Bang Theory - The Bath Item Gift Hypothesis ---
**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2015, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/40416 "2015-12-18T21:24:10Z")
Next up: Best Christmas Episodes of a TV Show: 1. Simpsons Roasting on an Open Fire 2. Doctor Who, “The Christmas Invasion” 3. The Big Bang Theory - The Bath Item Gift Hypothesis 4. Parks and Recreation – “Join in all the reindeer games” ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2015, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/40417 "2015-12-18T21:24:56Z")
Best Christmas Episodes of a TV Show: 1. “Simpsons Roasting on an Open Fire” 2. Doctor Who, “The Christmas Invasion” 3. The Big Bang Theory - The Bath Item Gift Hypothesis 4. Parks and Recreation – “Join in all the reindeer games” 5. M_A_S\*H - “The Interview” In which a documentary film crew was filming the 4077th during the holidays: [http://www.emmytvlegends.org/interviews/shows/mash-the-interview](http://www.emmytvlegends.org/interviews/shows/mash-the-interview). ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2015, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/40418 "2015-12-18T21:39:34Z")
Best Christmas Episodes of a TV Show: 1. “Simpsons Roasting on an Open Fire” 2. Doctor Who, “The Christmas Invasion” 3. The Big Bang Theory - The Bath Item Gift Hypothesis 4. Parks and Recreation – “Join in all the reindeer games” 5. M_A_S\*H - “The Interview” 6. The West Wing - “Noel” ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2015, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/40419 "2015-12-18T21:53:35Z")
Best Christmas Episodes of a TV Show: 1. “Simpsons Roasting on an Open Fire” 2. Doctor Who, “The Christmas Invasion” 3. The Big Bang Theory - The Bath Item Gift Hypothesis 4. Parks and Recreation – “Join in all the reindeer games” 5. M_A_S\*H - “The Interview” 6. The West Wing - “Noel” 7. The Librarians - “The Librarians and Santa’s Midnight Run” Bruce Campbell as Santa. 'Nuff said. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2015, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/40420 "2015-12-18T22:04:25Z")
Best Christmas Episodes of a TV Show: 1. “Simpsons Roasting on an Open Fire” 2. Doctor Who, “The Christmas Invasion” 3. The Big Bang Theory - The Bath Item Gift Hypothesis 4. Parks and Recreation – “Join in all the reindeer games” 5. M_A_S\*H - “The Interview” 6. The West Wing - “Noel” 7. The Librarians - “The Librarians and Santa’s Midnight Run” 8. The West Wing - “In Excelsis Deo” Tied for best with my earlier nomination, “Noel”. I love the storyline of Toby arranging a military funeral for a homeless vet. ---
**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2015, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/40421 "2015-12-18T22:05:16Z")
Best Christmas Episodes of a TV Show: 1. “Simpsons Roasting on an Open Fire” 2. Doctor Who, “The Christmas Invasion” 3. The Big Bang Theory - The Bath Item Gift Hypothesis 4. Parks and Recreation – “Join in all the reindeer games” 5. M_A_S\*H - “The Interview” 6. The West Wing - “Noel” 7. The Librarians - “The Librarians and Santa’s Midnight Run” 8. The West Wing - “In Excelsis Deo” 9. The Flash - “Running to Stand Still” ---
**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2015, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/40422 "2015-12-18T22:06:39Z")
Best Christmas Episodes of a TV Show: 1. “Simpsons Roasting on an Open Fire” 2. Doctor Who, “The Christmas Invasion” 3. The Big Bang Theory - The Bath Item Gift Hypothesis 4. Parks and Recreation – “Join in all the reindeer games” 5. M_A_S\*H - “The Interview” 6. The West Wing - “Noel” 7. The Librarians - “The Librarians and Santa’s Midnight Run” 8. The West Wing - “In Excelsis Deo” 9. The Flash - “Running to Stand Still” 10. The Simpsons - “Miracle on Evergreen Terrace” ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2015, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/40423 "2015-12-18T22:39:57Z")
Best Christmas Episodes of a TV Show: 1. “Simpsons Roasting on an Open Fire” 2. Doctor Who, “The Christmas Invasion” 3. The Big Bang Theory - The Bath Item Gift Hypothesis 4. Parks and Recreation – “Join in all the reindeer games” 5. M_A_S\*H - “The Interview” 6. The West Wing - “Noel” 7. The Librarians - “The Librarians and Santa’s Midnight Run” 8. The West Wing - “In Excelsis Deo” 9. The Flash - “Running to Stand Still” 10. The Simpsons - “Miracle on Evergreen Terrace” 11. Community - “Abed’s Uncontrollable Christmas” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173.md?page=2020) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173.md?page=2022)