# Bakers Dozen **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2029
**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2015, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/40564 "2015-12-22T21:40:57Z")
Great American cities settled at first on obscure rivers 1. Houston – Buffalo Bayou 2. Asheville NC: French Broad River 3. Dallas TX (the Trinity isn’t much of a river) 4. Phoenix AZ: Salt River ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2015, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/40565 "2015-12-22T23:31:21Z")
Great American cities settled at first on obscure rivers 1. Houston – Buffalo Bayou 2. Asheville NC: French Broad River 3. Dallas TX (the Trinity isn’t much of a river) 4. Phoenix AZ: Salt River 5. Indianapolis IN: The White River Indianapolis, as Vonnegut readers will know, is one of the biggest cities in the country not founded on a river navigable by riverboats. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2015, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/40566 "2015-12-23T05:01:38Z")
> [@astorian](#): > > Weather, whether you like it or not > … > 11. Golf ball sized hail The story goes that David Letterman, as a young weatherman in Indianapolis, was once disciplined for predicting “hailstones the size of canned hams.” Great American cities settled at first on obscure rivers 1. Houston – Buffalo Bayou 2. Asheville NC: French Broad River 3. Dallas TX (the Trinity isn’t much of a river) 4. Phoenix AZ: Salt River 5. Indianapolis IN: The White River 6. Cleveland, Ohio: Cuyahoga River ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2015, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/40567 "2015-12-23T11:16:03Z")
Great American cities settled at first on obscure rivers 1. Houston – Buffalo Bayou 2. Asheville NC: French Broad River 3. Dallas TX (the Trinity isn’t much of a river) 4. Phoenix AZ: Salt River 5. Indianapolis IN: The White River 6. Cleveland, Ohio: Cuyahoga River 7. Charleston WV: at the confluence of the Ashley and Cooper Rivers ---
**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2015, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/40568 "2015-12-23T13:00:54Z")
That’s Charleston South Carolina, where “The Ashley and Cooper meet to form the Atlantic Ocean”. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2015, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/40569 "2015-12-23T13:05:40Z")
> [@jtur88](#): > > That’s Charleston South Carolina, where “The Ashley and Cooper meet to form the Atlantic Ocean”. Thanks for the correction. I found that on a site that obviously is wrong. Corrected. Great American cities settled at first on obscure rivers 1. Houston – Buffalo Bayou 2. Asheville NC: French Broad River 3. Dallas TX (the Trinity isn’t much of a river) 4. Phoenix AZ: Salt River 5. Indianapolis IN: The White River 6. Cleveland, Ohio: Cuyahoga River 7. Charleston SC: at the confluence of the Ashley and Cooper Rivers ---
**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2015, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/40570 "2015-12-23T13:24:34Z")
Great American cities settled at first on obscure rivers 1. Houston – Buffalo Bayou 2. Asheville NC: French Broad River 3. Dallas TX (the Trinity isn’t much of a river) 4. Phoenix AZ: Salt River 5. Indianapolis IN: The White River 6. Cleveland, Ohio: Cuyahoga River 7. Charleston SC: at the confluence of the Ashley and Cooper Rivers 8. Milwaukee WI – Kinnickinnic River At the confluence of the Milwaukee, Menominie and Kinnickinnic rivers. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2015, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/40571 "2015-12-23T17:25:22Z")
Great American cities settled at first on obscure rivers 1. Houston – Buffalo Bayou 2. Asheville NC: French Broad River 3. Dallas TX (the Trinity isn’t much of a river) 4. Phoenix AZ: Salt River 5. Indianapolis IN: The White River 6. Cleveland, Ohio: Cuyahoga River 7. Charleston SC: at the confluence of the Ashley and Cooper Rivers 8. Milwaukee WI – Kinnickinnic River 9. Richmond VA: James River ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2015, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/40572 "2015-12-24T04:04:43Z")
Great American cities settled at first on obscure rivers 1. Houston – Buffalo Bayou 2. Asheville NC: French Broad River 3. Dallas TX (the Trinity isn’t much of a river) 4. Phoenix AZ: Salt River 5. Indianapolis IN: The White River 6. Cleveland, Ohio: Cuyahoga River 7. Charleston SC: at the confluence of the Ashley and Cooper Rivers 8. Milwaukee WI – Kinnickinnic River 9. Richmond VA: James River 10. Washington, D.C.: Potomac River. ---
**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2015, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/40573 "2015-12-24T04:18:33Z")
Great American cities settled at first on obscure rivers 1. Houston – Buffalo Bayou 2. Asheville NC: French Broad River 3. Dallas TX (the Trinity isn’t much of a river) 4. Phoenix AZ: Salt River 5. Indianapolis IN: The White River 6. Cleveland, Ohio: Cuyahoga River 7. Charleston SC: at the confluence of the Ashley and Cooper Rivers 8. Milwaukee WI – Kinnickinnic River 9. Richmond VA: James River 10. Washington, D.C.: Potomac River. 11. Durham NC – Eno River ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2015, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/40574 "2015-12-24T04:32:06Z")
The Cuyahoha, Potomac, and James were obscure? ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2015, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/40575 "2015-12-24T04:52:53Z")
I guess it matters where you’re from and what you are familiar with. Great American cities settled at first on obscure rivers 1. Houston – Buffalo Bayou 2. Asheville NC: French Broad River 3. Dallas TX (the Trinity isn’t much of a river) 4. Phoenix AZ: Salt River 5. Indianapolis IN: The White River 6. Cleveland, Ohio: Cuyahoga River 7. Charleston SC: at the confluence of the Ashley and Cooper Rivers 8. Milwaukee WI – Kinnickinnic River 9. Richmond VA: James River 10. Washington, D.C.: Potomac River. 11. Durham NC – Eno River 12. Billings MT: Yellowstone River ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2015, 10:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/40576 "2015-12-24T10:06:28Z")
Great American cities settled at first on obscure rivers 1. Houston – Buffalo Bayou 2. Asheville NC: French Broad River 3. Dallas TX (the Trinity isn’t much of a river) 4. Phoenix AZ: Salt River 5. Indianapolis IN: The White River 6. Cleveland, Ohio: Cuyahoga River 7. Charleston SC: at the confluence of the Ashley and Cooper Rivers 8. Milwaukee WI – Kinnickinnic River 9. Richmond VA: James River 10. Washington, D.C.: Potomac River. 11. Durham NC – Eno River 12. Billings MT: Yellowstone River 13. Salt Lake City: Jordan River For Christmas Eve- famous real or fictional Eves (or Eva or Evi or names that are Ev-ian) 1. Eve Arden ---
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For Christmas Eve- famous real or fictional Eves (or Eva or Evi or names that are Ev-ian) 1. Eve Arden 2. Eve from the Bible, Genesis ---
**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2015, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/40578 "2015-12-24T12:34:10Z")
For Christmas Eve- famous real or fictional Eves (or Eva or Evi or names that are Ev-ian) 1. Eve Arden 2. Eve from the Bible, Genesis 3. Eva Braun Hitler Quickly getting Godwin’s Law out of the way. ---
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For Christmas Eve- famous real or fictional Eves (or Eva or Evi or names that are Ev-ian) 1. Eve Arden 2. Eve from the Bible, Genesis 3. Eva Braun Hitler 4. Eve 6 - X-Files Character or 90’s band ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2015, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/40580 "2015-12-24T14:34:20Z")
For Christmas Eve- famous real or fictional Eves (or Eva or Evi or names that are Ev-ian) 1. Eve Arden 2. Eve from the Bible, Genesis 3. Eva Braun Hitler 4. Eve 6 - X-Files Character or 90’s band 5. Eve Plumb ---
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For Christmas Eve- famous real or fictional Eves (or Eva or Evi or names that are Ev-ian) 1. Eve Arden 2. Eve from the Bible, Genesis 3. Eva Braun Hitler 4. Eve 6 - X-Files Character or 90’s band 5. Eve Plumb 6. Eve Baird - the Librarians ---
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For Christmas Eve- famous real or fictional Eves (or Eva or Evi or names that are Ev-ian) 1. Eve Arden 2. Eve from the Bible, Genesis 3. Eva Braun Hitler 4. Eve 6 - X-Files Character or 90’s band 5. Eve Plumb 6. Eve Baird - the Librarians 7. Eva Gabor (Close enough) ---
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