# Bakers Dozen

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2011, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/4141 "2011-03-12T03:02:49Z")

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Celebrities who are terrible musicians, but have been professionally recorded anyway (with an example of their “art”):

1. Leonard Nimoy (The Ballad of Bilbo Baggins)
2. Lee Marvin (I Was Born Under a Wand’rin Star)
3. Patty Duke (Songs from Valley of The Dolls and Other Selections\_
4. William Shatner (The Transformed Man)
5. Burt Reynolds (At Long Last Love/Best Little Whorehouse in Texas)
6. Jack Webb (Try a Little Tenderness)
7. Telly Savalas (If)
8. Joe Pesci- (Vincent LaGuardia Gambini Sings Songs of Love)
9. Joey Lawrence - Nothing My Love Can’t Fix
10. Lucille Ball (Mame)
11. Sylvester Stallone (Paradise Alley)
12. [Richard Harris (MacArthur Park)](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKRLnTcF61k&feature=related)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2011, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/4142 "2011-03-12T03:06:17Z")

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Celebrities who are terrible musicians, but have been professionally recorded anyway (with an example of their “art”):

1. Leonard Nimoy (The Ballad of Bilbo Baggins)
2. Lee Marvin (I Was Born Under a Wand’rin Star)
3. Patty Duke (Songs from Valley of The Dolls and Other Selections\_
4. William Shatner (The Transformed Man)
5. Burt Reynolds (At Long Last Love/Best Little Whorehouse in Texas)
6. Jack Webb (Try a Little Tenderness)
7. Telly Savalas (If)
8. Joe Pesci- (Vincent LaGuardia Gambini Sings Songs of Love)
9. Joey Lawrence - Nothing My Love Can’t Fix
10. Lucille Ball (Mame)
11. Sylvester Stallone (Paradise Alley)
12. Richard Harris (MacArthur Park)
13. U.S. Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah)'s Hanukkah song

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/SLwLv2TcWLM/hqdefault.jpg "Orrin Hatch's Hanukkah Song and Snoop Dogg on Your GPS") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLwLv2TcWLM)

Next category:

Noteworthy fictional mentally-disturbed people

1. Hannibal Lecter

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2011, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/4143 "2011-03-12T03:10:20Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Next category:
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> Noteworthy fictional mentally-disturbed people

Really? We just did “Fictional Heroes/Protagonists who suffered from severe mental disorders” as a category last week.

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**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2011, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/4144 "2011-03-12T18:05:28Z")

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Well, if we’re going along with this category, here’s my answer. If not, please ignore…

Noteworthy fictional mentally-disturbed people

1. Hannibal Lecter
2. Travis Bickle

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2011, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/4145 "2011-03-12T19:17:28Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Really? We just did “Fictional Heroes/Protagonists who suffered from severe mental disorders” as a category last week.

Well, these don’t have to be protagonists or heroes, so that frees you up a bit. Example:  
Noteworthy fictional mentally-disturbed people

1. Hannibal Lecter
2. Travis Bickle
3. Michael Myers (_Friday 13th_ movies)

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2011, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/4146 "2011-03-13T01:28:13Z")

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Yeah, I thought this was different enough we could go with it.

Noteworthy fictional mentally-disturbed people

1. Hannibal Lecter
2. Travis Bickle
3. Michael Myers (Friday 13th movies)
4. The Joker

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2011, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/4147 "2011-03-13T02:20:09Z")

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Noteworthy fictional mentally-disturbed people

1. Hannibal Lecter
2. Travis Bickle
3. Michael Myers (Friday 13th movies)
4. The Joker
5. Dr Jekyll

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**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2011, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/4148 "2011-03-13T03:04:04Z")

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Noteworthy fictional mentally-disturbed people

1. Hannibal Lecter
2. Travis Bickle
3. Michael Myers (Friday 13th movies)
4. The Joker
5. Dr Jekyll
6. Norman Bates

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2011, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/4149 "2011-03-13T03:37:33Z")

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Noteworthy fictional mentally-disturbed people

1. Hannibal Lecter
2. Travis Bickle
3. Michael Myers (Friday 13th movies)
4. The Joker
5. Dr Jekyll
6. Norman Bates
7. Rhoda Penmark

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2011, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/4150 "2011-03-13T04:06:09Z")

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Noteworthy fictional mentally-disturbed people

1. Hannibal Lecter
2. Travis Bickle
3. Michael Myers (Friday 13th movies)
4. The Joker
5. Dr Jekyll
6. Norman Bates
7. Rhoda Penmark
8. Renfield, from Bram Stoker’s “Dracula”

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2011, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/4151 "2011-03-13T04:24:35Z")

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Noteworthy fictional mentally-disturbed people

1. Hannibal Lecter
2. Travis Bickle
3. Michael Myers (Friday 13th movies)
4. The Joker
5. Dr Jekyll
6. Norman Bates
7. Rhoda Penmark
8. Renfield, from Bram Stoker’s “Dracula”
9. Ahab

The Captain of the Pequod not the King or the Arab or the cyborg.

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**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2011, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/4152 "2011-03-13T04:40:47Z")

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1. Hannibal Lecter
2. Travis Bickle
3. Michael Myers (Friday 13th movies)
4. The Joker
5. Dr Jekyll
6. Norman Bates
7. Rhoda Penmark
8. Renfield, from Bram Stoker’s “Dracula”
9. Ahab
10. Lady Macbeth

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2011, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/4153 "2011-03-13T04:45:57Z")

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Noteworthy fictional mentally-disturbed people

1. Hannibal Lecter
2. Travis Bickle
3. Michael Myers (Friday 13th movies)
4. The Joker
5. Dr Jekyll
6. Norman Bates
7. Rhoda Penmark
8. Renfield, from Bram Stoker’s “Dracula”
9. Ahab
10. Lady Macbeth
11. Ophelia

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2011, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/4154 "2011-03-13T05:31:19Z")

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Noteworthy fictional mentally-disturbed people

1. Hannibal Lecter
2. Travis Bickle
3. Michael Myers (Friday 13th movies)
4. The Joker
5. Dr Jekyll
6. Norman Bates
7. Rhoda Penmark
8. Renfield, from Bram Stoker’s “Dracula”
9. Ahab
10. Lady Macbeth
11. Ophelia
12. Sybil

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2011, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/4155 "2011-03-13T05:48:08Z")

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Noteworthy fictional mentally-disturbed people

1. Hannibal Lecter
2. Travis Bickle
3. Michael Myers (Friday 13th movies)
4. The Joker
5. Dr Jekyll
6. Norman Bates
7. Rhoda Penmark
8. Renfield, from Bram Stoker’s “Dracula”
9. Ahab
10. Lady Macbeth
11. Ophelia
12. Sybil
13. Blanche DuBois  
(I started to nitpick that Sybil [wasn’t fictional](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shirley_Ardell_Mason), but I suppose she was sufficiently fictionalized to count.)

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2011, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/4156 "2011-03-13T05:50:59Z")

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Sorry, forgot-

New Category:

Favorite quotations of Oscar Wilde (need not be exact so long as close enough)

1. To lose one parent is a great misfortune; to lose both just seems like carelessness.

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**Author:** ![ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2011, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/4157 "2011-03-13T06:13:47Z")

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Favorite quotations of Oscar Wilde (need not be exact so long as close enough)

1. To lose one parent is a great misfortune; to lose both just seems like carelessness.
2. It is absurd to divide people into good and bad. People are either charming or tedious.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2011, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/4158 "2011-03-13T06:16:47Z")

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Favorite quotations of Oscar Wilde (need not be exact so long as close enough)

1. To lose one parent is a great misfortune; to lose both just seems like carelessness.
2. It is absurd to divide people into good and bad. People are either charming or tedious.
3. One should always play fairly when one has the winning cards.

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2011, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/4159 "2011-03-13T13:42:33Z")

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Favorite quotations of Oscar Wilde (need not be exact so long as close enough)

1. To lose one parent is a great misfortune; to lose both just seems like carelessness.
2. It is absurd to divide people into good and bad. People are either charming or tedious.
3. One should always play fairly when one has the winning cards.
4. If one hears bad music, it is one’s duty to drown it out by one’s conversation.

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**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2011, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/4160 "2011-03-13T14:01:27Z")

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Favorite quotations of Oscar Wilde (need not be exact so long as close enough)

1. To lose one parent is a great misfortune; to lose both just seems like carelessness.
2. It is absurd to divide people into good and bad. People are either charming or tedious.
3. One should always play fairly when one has the winning cards.
4. If one hears bad music, it is one’s duty to drown it out by one’s conversation.
5. I am not young enough to know everything.

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