# Bakers Dozen

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/43926 "2016-05-26T13:49:57Z")

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Signature weapons of superheroes or villains

1. Batarang (Batman)
2. Shield (Captain America)
3. Mjolnir aka Mew-Mew (Thor)
4. Lasso of Truth (Wonder Woman)
5. Cosmic Rod (Starman)
6. Webbing (Spider-Man)
7. Ring (Green Lantern)
8. Bow & Arrow (Hawkeye)
9. Atomic Ax (The Persuader)
10. Eye of Agamotto (Dr. Strange)
11. Repulsor rays (Iron Man)
12. Boxing Glove arrow(Green Arrow)
13. Emerald Eye (Emerald Empress)

Next up: Reasons people gave for not allowing gay people to be legally married.

1. Marriage is for creating children, and gay people cannot reproduce.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/43927 "2016-05-26T14:19:57Z")

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Reasons people gave for not allowing gay people to be legally married.

1. Marriage is for creating children, and gay people cannot reproduce.
2. It makes me feel all oogie.

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/43928 "2016-05-26T16:00:53Z")

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Reasons people gave for not allowing gay people to be legally married.

1. Marriage is for creating children, and gay people cannot reproduce.
2. It makes me feel all oogie.
3. The “sanctity of marriage.”

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**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/43929 "2016-05-26T16:06:31Z")

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Reasons people gave for not allowing gay people to be legally married.

1. Marriage is for creating children, and gay people cannot reproduce.
2. It makes me feel all oogie.
3. The “sanctity of marriage.”
4. “God made ‘Adam and Eve,’ not ‘Adam and Steve.’”

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/43930 "2016-05-26T16:09:29Z")

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Reasons people gave for not allowing gay people to be legally married.

1. Marriage is for creating children, and gay people cannot reproduce.
2. It makes me feel all oogie.
3. The “sanctity of marriage.”
4. “God made ‘Adam and Eve,’ not ‘Adam and Steve.’”
5. Gays are more likely to molest children.

This got used a LOT more than you would think. Most of it cited “research” that went back to the self published work of either psychopathic nutbag Paul Cameron or conversion therapist George Rekers (who believed homosexuality was mostly caused by kids being molested).

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/43931 "2016-05-26T16:12:19Z")

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Reasons people gave for not allowing gay people to be legally married.

1. Marriage is for creating children, and gay people cannot reproduce.
2. It makes me feel all oogie.
3. The “sanctity of marriage.”
4. “God made ‘Adam and Eve,’ not ‘Adam and Steve.’”
5. Gays are more likely to molest children.
6. Everybody will “go gay.” WTF does that even mean?

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/43932 "2016-05-26T16:15:32Z")

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[QUOTE=Annie-Xmas]

1. Everybody will “go gay.” WTF does that even mean?  
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Paul Cameron again, as well as some ministers and lawmakers, have actually said things close to the following (this is from Cameron, but you can find similar statements by others):

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> “Marital sex tends toward the boring end. Generally, it doesn’t deliver the kind of sheer sexual pleasure that homosexual sex does. If you isolate sexuality as something solely for one’s own personal amusement, if all you want is the most satisfying orgasm you can get, then homosexuality seems too powerful to resist.”  
> Paul Cameron interview with Rolling Stone, 1999

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/43933 "2016-05-26T16:26:42Z")

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Reasons people gave for not allowing gay people to be legally married.

1. Marriage is for creating children, and gay people cannot reproduce.
2. It makes me feel all oogie.
3. The “sanctity of marriage.”
4. “God made ‘Adam and Eve,’ not ‘Adam and Steve.’”
5. Gays are more likely to molest children.
6. Everybody will “go gay.” WTF does that even mean?
7. Because next it will be legal to marry an animal.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/43934 "2016-05-26T16:57:52Z")

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Reasons people gave for not allowing gay people to be legally married.

1. Marriage is for creating children, and gay people cannot reproduce.
2. It makes me feel all oogie.
3. The “sanctity of marriage.”
4. “God made ‘Adam and Eve,’ not ‘Adam and Steve.’”
5. Gays are more likely to molest children.
6. Everybody will “go gay.” WTF does that even mean?
7. Because next it will be legal to marry an animal.
8. Marriage is for monogamy and gays can’t be monogamous so gays can’t get married. (direct quote from a gay marriage protester)

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/43935 "2016-05-26T17:20:48Z")

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Reasons people gave for not allowing gay people to be legally married.

1. Marriage is for creating children, and gay people cannot reproduce.
2. It makes me feel all oogie.
3. The “sanctity of marriage.”
4. “God made ‘Adam and Eve,’ not ‘Adam and Steve.’”
5. Gays are more likely to molest children.
6. Everybody will “go gay.” WTF does that even mean?
7. Because next it will be legal to marry an animal.
8. Marriage is for monogamy and gays can’t be monogamous so gays can’t get married.
9. It would open the door for polygamy.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/43936 "2016-05-26T17:22:05Z")

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Reasons people gave for not allowing gay people to be legally married.

1. Marriage is for creating children, and gay people cannot reproduce.
2. It makes me feel all oogie.
3. The “sanctity of marriage.”
4. “God made ‘Adam and Eve,’ not ‘Adam and Steve.’”
5. Gays are more likely to molest children.
6. Everybody will “go gay.” WTF does that even mean?
7. Because next it will be legal to marry an animal.
8. Marriage is for monogamy and gays can’t be monogamous so gays can’t get married.
9. It would open the door for polygamy.
10. Open homosexuality is what brought down the Roman Empire.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/43937 "2016-05-26T17:38:54Z")

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Reasons people gave for not allowing gay people to be legally married.

1. Marriage is for creating children, and gay people cannot reproduce.
2. It makes me feel all oogie.
3. The “sanctity of marriage.”
4. “God made ‘Adam and Eve,’ not ‘Adam and Steve.’”
5. Gays are more likely to molest children.
6. Everybody will “go gay.” WTF does that even mean?
7. Because next it will be legal to marry an animal.
8. Marriage is for monogamy and gays can’t be monogamous so gays can’t get married.
9. It would open the door for polygamy.
10. Open homosexuality is what brought down the Roman Empire.
11. Until 20 years ago, NO society EVER sanctioned gay marriage, not even non-Christian societies with no taboos against sodomy

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/43938 "2016-05-26T17:39:25Z")

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Reasons people gave for not allowing gay people to be legally married.

1. Marriage is for creating children, and gay people cannot reproduce.
2. It makes me feel all oogie.
3. The “sanctity of marriage.”
4. “God made ‘Adam and Eve,’ not ‘Adam and Steve.’”
5. Gays are more likely to molest children.
6. Everybody will “go gay.” WTF does that even mean?
7. Because next it will be legal to marry an animal.
8. Marriage is for monogamy and gays can’t be monogamous so gays can’t get married.
9. It would open the door for polygamy.
10. Open homosexuality is what brought down the Roman Empire.
11. Until 20 years ago, NO society EVER sanctioned gay marriage, not even non-Christian societies with no taboos against sodomy
12. Homophobic bigots have feelings too.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/43939 "2016-05-26T18:17:12Z")

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Reasons people gave for not allowing gay people to be legally married.

1. Marriage is for creating children, and gay people cannot reproduce.
2. It makes me feel all oogie.
3. The “sanctity of marriage.”
4. “God made ‘Adam and Eve,’ not ‘Adam and Steve.’”
5. Gays are more likely to molest children.
6. Everybody will “go gay.” WTF does that even mean?
7. Because next it will be legal to marry an animal.
8. Marriage is for monogamy and gays can’t be monogamous so gays can’t get married.
9. It would open the door for polygamy.
10. Open homosexuality is what brought down the Roman Empire.
11. Until 20 years ago, NO society EVER sanctioned gay marriage, not even non-Christian societies with no taboos against sodomy
12. Homophobic bigots have feelings too.
13. Because people who weren’t even gay would marry just for benefits.

Actually heard.

Next up:

Celebrities who are legally married to a same sex spouse

1. Ellen Degeneres/Portia DeRossi

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/43940 "2016-05-26T18:29:00Z")

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Celebrities who are legally married to a same sex spouse

1. Ellen Degeneres/Portia DeRossi
2. George Takei/‎Brad Altman

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/43941 "2016-05-26T18:56:06Z")

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Celebrities who are legally married to a same sex spouse

1. Ellen Degeneres/Portia DeRossi
2. George Takei/‎Brad Altman
3. Barry Manilow/Garry Kief

You don’t have to give the name of the non-celebrity spouse (though feel free to do so).

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**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/43942 "2016-05-26T19:03:43Z")

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Celebrities who are legally married to a same sex spouse

1. Ellen Degeneres/Portia DeRossi
2. George Takei/‎Brad Altman
3. Barry Manilow/Garry Kief
4. Neil Patrick Harris/David Burtka

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/43943 "2016-05-26T19:05:35Z")

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Celebrities who are legally married to a same sex spouse

1. Ellen Degeneres/Portia DeRossi
2. George Takei/‎Brad Altman
3. Barry Manilow/Garry Kief
4. Neil Patrick Harris/David Burtka
5. Jim Nabors/Stan Cadwallader

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**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/43944 "2016-05-26T19:07:41Z")

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nvm, ninja’d

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**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/43945 "2016-05-26T19:15:14Z")

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Celebrities who are legally married to a same sex spouse

1. Ellen Degeneres/Portia DeRossi
2. George Takei/‎Brad Altman
3. Barry Manilow/Garry Kief
4. Neil Patrick Harris/David Burtka
5. Jim Nabors/Stan Cadwallader
6. Cheyenne Jackson/Jason Landau

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