# Bakers Dozen

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [August 4, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173 "2010-08-04T17:56:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 2235

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**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2016, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/44686 "2016-06-26T06:16:50Z")

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Real People Who Inspired Fictional Characters

1. Dr. Joseph Bell (Sherlock Holmes)
2. Alexander Selkirk (Robinson Crusoe)
3. Captain Thomas Cochrane, Earl of Dundonald (Jack Aubrey in Patrick O’Brian’s series)
4. Charles Starkweather and Caril Ann Fugate (Kit Carruthers and Holly Sargis)
5. Whitey Bulger (Frank Costello in _The Departed)_

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2016, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/44687 "2016-06-26T12:01:53Z")

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Real People Who Inspired Fictional Characters

1. Dr. Joseph Bell (Sherlock Holmes)
2. Alexander Selkirk (Robinson Crusoe)
3. Captain Thomas Cochrane, Earl of Dundonald (Jack Aubrey in Patrick O’Brian’s series)
4. Charles Starkweather and Caril Ann Fugate (Kit Carruthers and Holly Sargis)
5. Whitey Bulger (Frank Costello in The Departed)
6. William Randolph Hearst (Charles Foster Kane in Citizen Kane)

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2016, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/44688 "2016-06-26T16:55:28Z")

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Real People Who Inspired Fictional Characters

1. Dr. Joseph Bell (Sherlock Holmes)
2. Alexander Selkirk (Robinson Crusoe)
3. Captain Thomas Cochrane, Earl of Dundonald (Jack Aubrey in Patrick O’Brian’s series)
4. Charles Starkweather and Caril Ann Fugate (Kit Carruthers and Holly Sargis)
5. Whitey Bulger (Frank Costello in The Departed)
6. William Randolph Hearst (Charles Foster Kane in Citizen Kane)
7. Ed Gein (Norman Bates)

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2016, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/44689 "2016-06-26T17:05:51Z")

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Real People Who Inspired Fictional Characters

1. Dr. Joseph Bell (Sherlock Holmes)
2. Alexander Selkirk (Robinson Crusoe)
3. Captain Thomas Cochrane, Earl of Dundonald (Jack Aubrey in Patrick O’Brian’s series)
4. Charles Starkweather and Caril Ann Fugate (Kit Carruthers and Holly Sargis)
5. Whitey Bulger (Frank Costello in The Departed)
6. William Randolph Hearst (Charles Foster Kane in Citizen Kane)
7. Ed Gein (Norman Bates)
8. John T. Scopes (Bertram Cates, in “Inherit the Wind”)

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**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2016, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/44690 "2016-06-26T17:13:58Z")

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Real People Who Inspired Fictional Characters

1. Dr. Joseph Bell (Sherlock Holmes)
2. Alexander Selkirk (Robinson Crusoe)
3. Captain Thomas Cochrane, Earl of Dundonald (Jack Aubrey in Patrick O’Brian’s series)
4. Charles Starkweather and Caril Ann Fugate (Kit Carruthers and Holly Sargis)
5. Whitey Bulger (Frank Costello in The Departed)
6. William Randolph Hearst (Charles Foster Kane in Citizen Kane)
7. Ed Gein (Norman Bates)
8. John T. Scopes (Bertram Cates, in “Inherit the Wind”)
9. Frank Rosenthall (Ace Rothstein)

Played by Robert deNiro in “Casino”.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2016, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/44691 "2016-06-26T17:31:19Z")

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Real People Who Inspired Fictional Characters

1. Dr. Joseph Bell (Sherlock Holmes)
2. Alexander Selkirk (Robinson Crusoe)
3. Captain Thomas Cochrane, Earl of Dundonald (Jack Aubrey in Patrick O’Brian’s series)
4. Charles Starkweather and Caril Ann Fugate (Kit Carruthers and Holly Sargis)
5. Whitey Bulger (Frank Costello in The Departed)
6. William Randolph Hearst (Charles Foster Kane in Citizen Kane)
7. Ed Gein (Norman Bates)
8. John T. Scopes (Bertram Cates, in “Inherit the Wind”)
9. Frank “Lefty” Rosenthal (Casino)
10. Huey Long (Willie Stark in “All the King’s Men”)

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**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2016, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/44692 "2016-06-26T18:19:24Z")

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Real People Who Inspired Fictional Characters

1. Dr. Joseph Bell (Sherlock Holmes)
2. Alexander Selkirk (Robinson Crusoe)
3. Captain Thomas Cochrane, Earl of Dundonald (Jack Aubrey in Patrick O’Brian’s series)
4. Charles Starkweather and Caril Ann Fugate (Kit Carruthers and Holly Sargis)
5. Whitey Bulger (Frank Costello in The Departed)
6. William Randolph Hearst (Charles Foster Kane in Citizen Kane)
7. Ed Gein (Norman Bates)
8. John T. Scopes (Bertram Cates, in “Inherit the Wind”)
9. Frank “Lefty” Rosenthal (Casino)
10. Huey Long (Willie Stark in “All the King’s Men”)
11. Alice Liddell Hargreaves (Alice in “Alice in Wonderland”)

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2016, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/44693 "2016-06-26T18:45:33Z")

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Real People Who Inspired Fictional Characters

1. Dr. Joseph Bell (Sherlock Holmes)
2. Alexander Selkirk (Robinson Crusoe)
3. Captain Thomas Cochrane, Earl of Dundonald (Jack Aubrey in Patrick O’Brian’s series)
4. Charles Starkweather and Caril Ann Fugate (Kit Carruthers and Holly Sargis)
5. Whitey Bulger (Frank Costello in The Departed)
6. William Randolph Hearst (Charles Foster Kane in Citizen Kane)
7. Ed Gein (Norman Bates)
8. John T. Scopes (Bertram Cates, in “Inherit the Wind”)
9. Frank “Lefty” Rosenthal (Casino)
10. Huey Long (Willie Stark in “All the King’s Men”)
11. Alice Liddell Hargreaves (Alice in “Alice in Wonderland”)
12. Sonny Wortzik (John Wojtowicz in “Dog Day Afternoon”)

This caused Wojtowicz problems. The fictional Wortzik betrayed his partner to the police. Many of the prisoners in the prison where Wojtowicz was serving his sentence saw the movie and assumed that Wojtowicz had also betrayed his partner.

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**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2016, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/44694 "2016-06-26T23:14:17Z")

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Real People Who Inspired Fictional Characters

1. Dr. Joseph Bell (Sherlock Holmes)
2. Alexander Selkirk (Robinson Crusoe)
3. Captain Thomas Cochrane, Earl of Dundonald (Jack Aubrey in Patrick O’Brian’s series)
4. Charles Starkweather and Caril Ann Fugate (Kit Carruthers and Holly Sargis)
5. Whitey Bulger (Frank Costello in The Departed)
6. William Randolph Hearst (Charles Foster Kane in Citizen Kane)
7. Ed Gein (Norman Bates)
8. John T. Scopes (Bertram Cates, in “Inherit the Wind”)
9. Frank “Lefty” Rosenthal (Casino)
10. Huey Long (Willie Stark in “All the King’s Men”)
11. Alice Liddell Hargreaves (Alice in “Alice in Wonderland”)
12. Sonny Wortzik (John Wojtowicz in “Dog Day Afternoon”)
13. Truman Capote (Dill Baker Harris in _To Kill A Mockingbird_

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Something you like to cook on the BBQ grill

1. shrimp

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2016, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/44695 "2016-06-26T23:27:04Z")

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Something you like to cook on the BBQ grill

1. shrimp
2. corn on the cob

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/44696 "2016-06-27T00:04:11Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Real People Who Inspired Fictional Characters
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> 1. Sonny Wortzik (John Wojtowicz in “Dog Day Afternoon”)
> 
> This caused Wojtowicz problems. The fictional Wortzik betrayed his partner to the police. Many of the prisoners in the prison where Wojtowicz was serving his sentence saw the movie and assumed that Wojtowicz had also betrayed his partner.

To clear up any possible confusion, I screwed up the order in this post. John Wojtowicz was the name of the real person that the fictional character of Sonny Wortzik was based on.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/44697 "2016-06-27T00:05:13Z")

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Something you like to cook on the BBQ grill

1. shrimp
2. corn on the cob
3. chicken

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**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/44698 "2016-06-27T00:42:46Z")

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Something you like to cook on the BBQ grill

1. shrimp
2. corn on the cob
3. chicken
4. Beef liver

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/44699 "2016-06-27T01:39:13Z")

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Something you like to cook on the BBQ grill

1. shrimp
2. corn on the cob
3. chicken
4. Beef liver
5. hamburgers

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**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/44700 "2016-06-27T02:36:29Z")

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Something you like to cook on the BBQ grill

1. shrimp
2. corn on the cob
3. chicken
4. Beef liver
5. hamburgers
6. Green onions

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/44701 "2016-06-27T03:58:59Z")

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Something you like to cook on the BBQ grill

1. shrimp
2. corn on the cob
3. chicken
4. Beef liver
5. hamburgers
6. Green onions
7. potatoes

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/44702 "2016-06-27T04:29:57Z")

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Something you like to cook on the BBQ grill

1. shrimp
2. corn on the cob
3. chicken
4. Beef liver
5. hamburgers
6. Green onions
7. potatoes
8. hot dogs

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**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/44703 "2016-06-27T04:37:12Z")

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Something you like to cook on the BBQ grill

1. shrimp
2. corn on the cob
3. chicken
4. Beef liver
5. hamburgers
6. Green onions
7. potatoes
8. hot dogs
9. steak

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**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 10:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/44704 "2016-06-27T10:25:06Z")

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Something you like to cook on the BBQ grill

1. shrimp
2. corn on the cob
3. chicken
4. Beef liver
5. hamburgers
6. Green onions
7. potatoes
8. hot dogs
9. steak
10. peach halves

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**Author:** ![gkster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gkster/32/14107_2.png) [@gkster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gkster)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/bakers-dozen/549173/44705 "2016-06-27T12:31:23Z")

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Something you like to cook on the BBQ grill

1. shrimp
2. corn on the cob
3. chicken
4. Beef liver
5. hamburgers
6. Green onions
7. potatoes
8. hot dogs
9. steak
10. peach halves
11. Lamb chops or kebabs

To me they taste better bbqd than any other cooking method

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